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It was bad enough we had to clean up after Bush.
That's the thing...they never cleaned up after Bush...they just swiped it under the rug and made a mess of their own..A HUGE ONE.
That is what gets me most they complain and moan about how Bush spent us this way and the republicans are this and that, then turn around and do the same thing that they were preaching out against.
Under the president's proposal, these taxpayers would recoup 28% of the value of qualified deductions, such as charitable donations, rather than higher percentages laid out under current law.
That could mean a couple in the 35% tax bracket who once could have recouped $3,500 of a $10,000 donation to a charity would now recoup only $2,800.
* The budget envisions more than $316 billion in additional revenue from changing the way the federal government pays for healthcare through Medicare and Medicaid, its two primary public insurance programs.
The biggest chunk of that revenue -- more than $175 billion -- would come from cutting payments to insurance companies that currently contract with the federal government to provide care to senior citizens on Medicare through the Medicare Advantage program.
Originally posted by David9176
I'm sure there are people who cheat...but that doesn't make it right for those who don't and are actually helping people out of their own good will.
At least they are volunteering money instead of forcibly having it taken from them by the government.
You are right though, some are greedy.
If it was me and i was rich, i'd give lots of it away and keep enough to live comfortably.
Isn't that kind of a reward for making alot of money? Doing good for the society and giving back...voluntarily?
It's what I would do. When people ask me for money on the street i always give some money..even if i think they could be scamming me.
That's what all part of being a good person isn't it?
Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by Hastobemoretolife
It was bad enough we had to clean up after Bush.
That's the thing...they never cleaned up after Bush...they just swiped it under the rug and made a mess of their own..A HUGE ONE.
If Obama isn't hellbent on dismantling the entire economy then he's a complete idiot.
None of this makes sense.
Democrats and Republicans poured cold water on President Obama's budget plan to cut down on wealthy taxpayers' charitable giving tax deductions, the second of his ambitious cost-savings plans to earn lawmakers' scorn, and underscoring the legislative minefield he is entering.
So, how big a problem could this be? According to the IRS, the 3,656,493 tax returns containing incomes above $200,000 contributed $81,261,387,000 to charities. That’s an average contribution of $22,224. Now 3.6 million returns is only 9 percent of all returns in 2006, but $81.3 billion in contributions is 44 percent of all giving as recorded through the tax forms. The number probably is a good deal higher than that, since many taxpayers do not report all or any charitable contributions on their itemized deductions schedule.
So, it’s a big problem. By the way, the rest of us (37,781,256 tax returns) probably won’t fill the gap. Taxpayers with incomes below $200,000 and who itemized their deductions contributed $105.4 billion to charities, for an average contribution of $2,789, or nearly ten times less than those taxpayers above $200,000.
And as far as Universal Health Care goes, is it really worth destroying the whole economy to implement? I don't think so.
Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
reply to post by David9176
using a shotgun to cure a headache.
Originally posted by TXRabbit
I'm no accountant or tax-guru but aren't contributions to charities nothing but a big tax-shelter used by the rich to not only avoid paying taxes on those contributions but to claim credits as well?
Please correct me if I'm wrong. I hope I am heeh
Originally posted by mental modulator
Originally posted by David9176
I'm sure there are people who cheat...but that doesn't make it right for those who don't and are actually helping people out of their own good will.
At least they are volunteering money instead of forcibly having it taken from them by the government.
You are right though, some are greedy.
If it was me and i was rich, i'd give lots of it away and keep enough to live comfortably.
Isn't that kind of a reward for making alot of money? Doing good for the society and giving back...voluntarily?
It's what I would do. When people ask me for money on the street i always give some money..even if i think they could be scamming me.
That's what all part of being a good person isn't it?
This and other things are being done to introduce funds into universal healthcare type program. So trying to frame this as just giving money to government is not 100%
accurate. Healthcare was part of Obama's platform, so was raising the tax rates on the top 2% to MY and probably your tax rate, unless your very rich.
[edit on 2-3-2009 by mental modulator]