Feds Grant Eminent Domain As Collateral To China For U.S. Debts!

I'm not gonna believe this but if this is true, we have the makings of Treason.

I found the thing on youtube but it look like the same person that posted the OP's article.

I honesly would not be surprised if this were true, I can believe that the morons in the Fed would sell us out.

Screw the Fed, we need to kick there arses outta here once and for all.

I'm personally sick and tired of hearing about these guys effing up this country.

-Lahara

This is so *snip* crazy! [Slams the ENTER key]

People griped about the freedoms lost during Bush.
Seems we've continued to lose much more freedoms over the last month under Obama and now we'll begin to lose our properties too.

But I guess this is now OK simply because it's Obama. [applies cheap KY Liberally)

I can just see a Dollar Store on every block, ..oh wait, we're there already.
[btw, how 'bout that Yao Ming]

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I have a feeling Hal Turner who posted the thread that started this rumor is embellishing... a lot.

here is his blog.

halturnershow.blogspot.com...


and here is the article he linked in the thread.. I saw nothing in there stating that the fed had done this, but please look for yourself.

www.bloomberg.com...

he did say it was a response to that article, but no other source was given

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This one hits close to home for me. My nephew had
a dream a while back also about chinese troops here.
He's not one to believe in alot of this stuff but it
scared him and he's not really like that anyway.
The weird thing(to him)is the troops were saying don't
worry, everything will be the same, we are on your side!
None of this could of even been conceived of before the
current US economic crashola!
And don't forget we are currently digging a financial
bottomless pit for ourselves as I write this.
Scary!
I for one would DEFINATELY like to know for sure!
Thank you for your investigations!

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Be sure to post more of your nephew's dreams.

Well while your at it, sign him up as a member too.

This info really needs to get to people like Glen Beck and maybe Ron Paul. I think they would have a much better chance of confirming the info.

I'll have more to say if and when this information is verified.

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so! why dont we email this to ron paul!

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Thank you for your posts and reply. You know, it's funny,
after that dream he started getting into ghosts and stuff!
I was frankly astonished because he always seemed to
not be interested in stuff like this untill that happened.
Now he is in a ghost hunter group!!!
Course, his old house is haunted so that may have
something to do with it!
I'll talk to him and see what he says.
You know how we always get the eye roll thing when
we mention ATS!
I'll tell him about the ghost threads on here.
I talk to his mom about "out there" stuff once in awhile.
If it wasn't for the current financial trouble we are having,
it would be hard to believe! Now it makes me wonder!


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Well, in a round about way, China IS giving money for our houses.

I'm not sure what that amounts to the claims being made, but it is worrisome, to say the least.

This is something to watch very closely.

I have a hard time believing this... rather, I simply can't believe it.

It wreaks of low-level paranoia pandering.


There is no way the US would hand over sovereign rights to it's own land in exchange for debt relief. As much as I'd be quite amused to see them do.


Show me a credible source stating the same and I might give it more thought... but I'm willing to bet you won't find one.

Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
Well, in a round about way, China IS giving money for our houses.

I'm not sure what that amounts to the claims being made, but it is worrisome, to say the least.

This is something to watch very closely.

Don't forget the banks, automobile manufacturers, and insurance companies.

Kind of reminds me of the cyberpunk stuff from the 80s, like Blade Runner, where Japan had taken ownership of large portions of America. At that time in the 80s Japan owned most of America's debt.

Since then China has now outranked Japan in the buying of American debt. Japan is still the second largest holder though.

Two things, one if it is true it is shameful, two if it is true we have only our selves and our government to blame, the prophesies and statements of Lenin himself are coming to pass when he said, In 1922, “permitted capitalism.” When asked why, he said: “The capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.”

The thing that the stupid people still angry that Obama won and instantly painting him as a communist, socialist or whatever, they won't realize we have been taking steps towards it all the time, they were just too blind too see or in complete denial, blinded with all of the patriotic rhetoric used to justify spending OUR TAX DOLLARS for the last 7 years and dumping it into an ABYSS called Iraq, we are paying these people for the somewhat peace there now soon as we stop they will go back to the sectarian divides and just like Afghanistan return to their ways, the ignorant will associate this all with Obama when it was all set up to happen years and years before, the real problem you see is that we borrowed from our enemies, that is a no, no and borrowed to finance wars, we were not financing anything, then the Pentagon the day before 911 was missing 2.4 trillion dollars, then the day of 911 more gold went missing at the WTC and many gained from put options, Haliburton secured contracts for God only knows how much and many associated with Cheney and himself profited and for about 7 long years we spent trillions in Iraq and continue to do so, you see it is not all about housing and the bubble, that is only a part, all of the other things that at least for the last 7 years have the house of Bush all over it and people need to bring these things back out to light, bring charges against the traitors that were in office, try them and give them their due punishments as sacrifice.

In many respects think about it, our government and the corrupt corporations are as irresponsible as any person that took a loan or mortgage on something they know full well they could not pay for, if you could not pay for your own war, don't wage it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We ought to withdraw and back away from the psycho paranoia about Islam, hell if we implode economically that is the biggest enemy and once that happens it won't matter, every enemy we ever had will be sitting around the table waiting for the slaughter.....I really hope this is not true though.


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Why ask Mommy, get him involved ASAP.
Heck, everyboby needs a crazy aunt/uncle in their lives, plus the traditional Thangsgiving gatherings will be a blast.

Maybe SO can start an ATS for Kids board?
Reel them in Bill, before they become delinquents.
They're gonna inherit our debt anyway, why not start them off early in the world of conspiracies.

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Hmmm, I wonder if Hillary would ever write back with
a truthfull answer, if we sent her an email?

What if we emailed china about it?
Otherwise we'll have to wait for you tube
videos of them in LA!

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FOLMAO! Thank you! Ya, we have fun! His mom is a hoot!
I must be the crazy paranoid, survival type uncle! hehe.
Oh well someone needs to help save the unprepared!

Not too hard to find believers anymore the way the SIHTF lately.

Ya know.....I generally try to avoid subjects such as these....but, on my recent Holiday last summer, 2008, I had occasion to visit St. Petersburg, in Russia.

Since we were on a cruise, we were limited to 'authorized' Tour Companies...seems the Soviet influence dies a slow death....

Anyway, during the bus ride out to one of the Palaces on the tour, the guide commented on a monstrosity that we saw under construction, just off the highway. She said it was a huge project funded by the Chinese, and that local political fights had ensued, but the infusion of money and capitol promised by the Chinese won out.

When completed, she feared, it would be a 'haven' for thousands of Chinese....just a hint of political comment from her....not 'racism', but 'societism'? Or, just plain fear of the unknown. I mean, they are still adjusting to the fall of the Proletariat.

Anyway....not sure if any former USSR States have debts owed to China, but 'Eminent Domain'??? Nah, sounds like a business deal in Russia, and likely, this 'chicken little' idea from what the OP said? We already have 'ChinaTowns' in major US cities!!! Maybe they'll clean up the slums....AND, cheap take-out!!!! Yum!!!!

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More common sense talk by someone not afraid to
form their own opinions by puttin two and two together!
Thank you! It should be apparent by now ,
it is neither a red or blue problem but a GLOBAL one!
Thanks again!
Gotta love our brand of democracy and stradegery!!

From what i can see, there is no evidence of this occurring. if it did, we really don't need to imagine the implications.

however, I have no problems about specualtive conspiracy theories, I do have a propblem with lies. I am going to say that i hope this is a lie...

5th Ammendment validates the opportunity for it to exist in conjunction with the 14th.

I have no problems about specualtive conspiracy theories, I do have a propblem with lies. I am going to say that i hope this is a lie...

Eminent Domain (via wikipedia)

The Supreme Court has held that the federal government and each state has the power of eminent domain—the power to take private property for "public use". The Takings Clause, the last clause of the Fifth Amendment, limits the power of eminent domain by requiring that "just compensation" be paid if private property is taken for public use. The just compensation provision of the Fifth Amendment did not originally apply directly to the states, but the federal courts now hold that the Fourteenth Amendment extended the effects of that provision to the states. The federal courts, however, have shown much deference to the determinations of Congress, and even more so to the determinations of the state legislatures, as to what constitutes "public use". The property need not actually be used by the public; rather, it must be used or disposed of in such a manner as to benefit the public welfare or public interest. One exception that restrains the federal government is that the property must be used in exercise of a government's enumerated powers.

The owner of the property that is taken by the government must be justly compensated. When determining the amount that must be paid, the government does not need to take into account any speculative schemes that the owner claims the property was intended for use in. Normally, the fair market value of the property determines "just compensation". If the property is taken before the payment is made, interest accrues (though the courts have refrained from using the term "interest")

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en.wikipedia.org...



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Wow, what a co-inky dink.
Well it was fun for awhile, see ya round all.

Edit to explain: It doesn't take long to know
when your on to something by the (im)posters!

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