Prez Zings GOP Foe In A $timulating Talk

PREZ ZINGS GOP FOE IN A $TIMULATING TALK

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Last updated: 10:37 pm
January 23, 2009
Posted: 8:13 pm
January 23, 2009

WASHINGTON -- President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.

"You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package.

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[edit on 24 Jan 09 by Gools]

Ok, love him or hate him, Rush is just as entitled to his opinion as the next person. I am surprised that Obama in his first week (not even 3 days) already singled out Rush and his conservative talk show. Why is this? Is he afraid? Will he tolerate dissent? Wasn't this the leftist mantra all throughout the 8 years of Bush? Dissent is patriotic? And now, we cannot dissent and voice that dissent because its all just bi-partisan politics that will stall "progress"? Isn't this exactly what the left did during Bush?

Or is it because our dear leader can't take harsh criticism and a magnifying lens to himself?
At least Bush held together and acted like a man and shrugged off the bile and venom from the left. He never called out Sean Penn, or Al Franken, or Rosie O'Donnel, or Keith Olbermann, or Kanye West.
Bush didn't attack those that called for dissent. No matter how much the left spewed those words and ideas, calling him every name under the sun, and every comparison to every bad man of history, and every lie or twist, he NEVER lowered himself to this level. He never called for Democrats to not listen to left wing media or re-enstate the Fairness Doctrine. So why are the libs so eager to bring back the "Fairness Doctrine"?

Folks, I fear that this is only the first step to a REAL leftist dictatorship under Obama. The frenzy, the insanity surrounding Obama and now this untouchable forcefield around him to shield him from dissent, it is not looking good. The hypocrisy is stunning. Our freedom and our right to dissent is going out the door, ala Hugo Chavez/Stalin/Hitler/Ahmedinijad/Castro/etc. Just wait and watch. One thing dictators like to do first is suppress and curtail dissent and opposition. Take a good hard look at what Obama is doing. Bush will seem tame compared to what is in store for us with Obama in power. Oh and just try to say something bad about Obama or his policies.

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PS: If this has already been addressed in a different thread I apologize!

[edit on 1/24/2009 by GenRadek]

I agree that Rush has a right to say whatever he wants, but the things he says are vile. He was nothing but racist and fear-mongering throughout the whole campaign, and always has been. He's uneducated and small-minded and is keeping others that way. He's part of the problem. I have no problem with Obama telling him to STFU.

Edit: I hardly think this is "the first step to a real leftist dictatorship", it's doing people a favor.

[edit on 24-1-2009 by Total Reality]

Hmmm before Obama even took office Rush was spewing all kinds of things. On inauguration day Rush wished for Obama to fail. I don't thing the left media started to attack Bush till he screwed up. The freaking right always acting as the victims, always. BTW dictatorships tend to lean to the right.

He'd be better off just ignoring Limbaugh and the others. They're not going to stop just because he wants them to. The last thing he should be doing is trying to get into a public slap fight with them, because its something that he can't win, as, at the very least, he lowers himself to their level when he tries.

And lets not forget that it'll just anger conservatives even more than they already are and just lead to even more divisiveness. No one really needs that right now.



[edit on 24-1-2009 by vor78]

Come on, dont be foolish. He is not proscribing the right of Rush to speak, or of others to listen. He is pointing out, quite reasonably, that Rush, Orielly, hannity, and other such shows are just torrents of hate and intolerance, and that by following in their paradigms one will be unopen towards change, compromise, or any compassionate consideration at all.

Secondly Obama is far from a leftist. At most he is a centrist, and if you dont know this, you obviously have no idea of the true leftist agenda and how obama is opposed to or ignoring much of it.

Thirdly, your posting of Hugo Chavez as a "dictator who suppresses dissent" shows you obviously know nothing of his reign, other than what you have read in the MSM, or heard from your good friends Rush, Oreilly, or hannity. He lost the last referrendum, which never would have happened in a true dictatorship. He has included all ordinary citizens in local government, and that is hardly the work of a dictator. Education and health for the poor have greatly increased under him and that is hardly a sign of a dictator. Venezuela was the ONLY large oil company who agreed to give cheap oil to poor americans in boston and new york, and that is hardly a sign of a dictator. In fact, American powers have large control of Venezuelan newspapers and use it to push revolts against Chavez, and we also financed and incited two failed coups against him, where he was protected by and put back in power by the populace.....hardly indicative of dictators....unless you mean us.

Try reading a few books before you air your opinions, rather than just regurgitating catchy ideas and slogans you hear from other sources. Be original, and educate yourself.

reply to post by DesmoSedici


I can tell you did not listen to his broadcast entirely on that comment you mention. What he was referring to was about Obama's leftist policies. In fact he correctly predicted this was exactly what was going to happen (this "outrage"), and he laughed at the fact that those that criticize him will twist and take his quote out of context, as so many are always doing anyways. And what happened here? Same thing. Hell i want Obama to fail too if he is going to institute socialist policies. In effect, he set up a little trap and everyone fell into it. and he did this to just prove a point.

Rush has just taken things too far in hoping that Obama fails. That means he wants to see things further deteriorate, real patriot that Rush. Obama is making so much effort to work with the Republicans that he is taking heat from his own party members. So much for him being such a leftist, as another poster put it, he is very much a centrist.

While old Rush, Bill, and others are perfectly free to spew what ever hatred they choose, to openly and out right hope to see things get worse is even beneath him.

Rush is a scary man who spews ridiculous comments wrapped in hate and ignorance.
He doesn't appear to like or know himself.
But - he doesn't have to.
I would still prefer his right to free speech - than silence.
I don't have to listen.
Speak on if you must, Rush.

reply to post by pexx421


So what centrist things has Obama done so far?

Closing Gitmo?
US taxpayer money to fund abortions around the world?

I have listened to Rush quite a bit before, and i have yet to hear anything racist come from his mouth.
In fact The last blatant racist comment I heard was not from Rush, but from Obama's adviser. The only racism i heard this whole time was from Democrats. How is criticizing Obama racist? Obama's pastor is the biggest racist and yet he gets a pass.

Rush isn't perfect and he has stuck his foot in his mouth a few times. quite a few times. But i have heard more hate, more vile, more racism, more intolerance from the left then from the right for the last 8 years. And MOST of it was directed at Bush. And it wasn't constructive criticism, but just the dirtiest of the dirty.
Rush has always been sarcastic and he even points it out when he talks. Those that do not listen to his show are out of the context constantly and anytime he says something, it gets taken out of context and then shown as "intolerance" or "hate speech". And this is just another example of it. Maybe if you could direct me to Rush's instances of these allegations of incidents of being racist and intolerant I'd take a look.

But what has the left and leftist media done to Bush and conservatives for the past 8 years? A little hypocritical dont you think?

Oh and why is Hugo trying to remove term limits if he lost the referendum?
And do you really believe his sign of good faith with the cheap oil for the poor in NY was out of the goodness of his heart? Or was it a poke in the eye of Bush for politics?

reply to post by GenRadek

Nope I did not listen and there is no reason for me to listen to it. But apparently you do that you're freaked out of these "Social Policies". Out of all nations in the world US will be the last country to ever go through that route(IF it were to happen). The people who sponsored Bush or Obama in the office are capitalists without a soul. And yet a bill that gives something back to you & me it's socialist, but a bill bailing out the banks it's ok.

reply to post by DesmoSedici


Just so you know, Rush was against the bailouts too. From the start. Rush and others who have a little economic understanding all know that these bailouts (for us and them) is just going to prolong the problem and not fix it.

For those to say Rush is a "racist" and an "intolerant" person, without even listening to him is in the wrong. And to criticize him and accuse him of things without even listening to one week of his show is wrong. Once again, where were you when the left was doing 100x worse towards Bush for the last 8 years? Or is it ok to do unto one person but not unto another? Fair is fair. Obama is fair game for criticism of any type just like how Bush was subjected to. Fair is fair.

reply to post by redhead57


Again I ask, what did the entire leftwing of this country do to Bush all this time? Hollywood, the MSM, "comedians", etc? What were they doing?
I also ask you if you could direct me to instances of Rush being racist or intolerant. actual instances, not quotes taken out of context.

10 racist quotes from Rush Limbaugh, not taken out of context.

1. I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.

2. You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed.

3. Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?

4. Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.

5. Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.

6. The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.

7. They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?

8. Take that bone out of your nose and call me back(to an African American female caller).

9. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve.

10. Limbaugh attacks on Obama. Limbaugh has called Obama a ‘halfrican American’ has said that Obama was not black but Arab because Kenya is an Arab region, even though Arabs are less than one percent of Kenya. Since mainstream America has become more accepting of African-Americans, Limbaugh has decided to play against its new racial fears, Arabs and Muslims.

Despite the fact Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law school, Limbaugh has called him an ‘affirmative action candidate.’ Limbaugh even has repeatedly played a song on his radio show ‘Barack the Magic Negro’ using an antiquated Jim Crow era term for black a man who many Americans are supporting for president.

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[edit on 24-1-2009 by Total Reality]

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LIMBAUGH: Yeah. This is -- you're not going to believe this, but it's very simple. And the sooner you believe it, and the sooner you let this truth permeate the boundaries you have that tell you this is just simply not possible, the better you will understand Democrats in everything. You are right. They want to get us out of Iraq, but they can't wait to get us into Darfur.

CALLER: Right.

LIMBAUGH: There are two reasons. What color is the skin of the people in Darfur?

CALLER: Uh, yeah.

LIMBAUGH: It's black. And who do the Democrats really need to keep voting for them? If they lose a significant percentage of this voting bloc, they're in trouble.

CALLER: Yes. Yes. The black population.

LIMBAUGH: Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela -- who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.

Rush Limbaugh is a racist pig.

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So is Jesse Jackson!
So is Obama!
So is Rev Wright.
but you are willing to gloss over them because they are what exactly? is it because they are all a part of Obama's machine? Especially Wright! Don't expect me to believe that someone could sit in a pew for 20 years and not notice the hatred and racism spewing from the pastor's mouth. I'd suggest you learn what Obama's church was all about before accusing Rush of being a total racist. What Wright said, can you image, just imagine if it was a white person that went to klan meetings for 20 years. What would be the outcome?

and yet here you accuse Rush of being a racist with a few quotes from Rush which are, once again, out of context.
here is just one:
www.adversity.net...

But that is all you guys have. His quotes out of context. time and time again.

reply to post by GenRadek



It's because Rush isn't a conservative. He pretends to be one and makes conservatives look like racist, pill popping rednecks. I'd sooner label him a Neo-con.

Good! Finally a leader who can distinguish shinola. Personally, I've had enough of the other stuff. Jeez, maybe now this country will step into the 21st century. We were on the road to becoming the Luddite States of America, culturally as well as technologically.

Originally posted by Total Reality
I have no problem with Obama telling him to STFU.

[edit on 24-1-2009 by Total Reality]

I do - I've got a big problem with Obama telling anyone to STFU, conservative or liberal on the radio. Reason why is because it worries me that he might waffle on his stand on the Fairness Doctrine and decide not to veto it if it passes a House and Senate vote.

And the Fairness Doctrine - well, that's the first step toward a dictatorship in the free speech arena.

[edit on 24-1-2009 by sos37]