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A Paper was submitted at theInternational Conference on Geoarchaeology and Archaeomineralogy titled
"GEOLOGICAL ASPECT OF THE PROBLEM OF DATING THE GREAT EGYPTIAN SPHINX CONSTRUCTION"
which states in its Abstract that The Great Egyptian Sphinx dates back to the Pleistocene Era.
Originally posted by RiotComing
Just curious though, what was it that R. A. Schwaller de Lubicz had theorized about the Sphinx? Was it about the Nile overflowing, about Egyptian tribes living in that area around that time, or something else?
Water Erosion Debate
Water Erosion Debate
R. A. Schwaller de Lubicz, a French polymath and amateur Egyptologist, first noticed evidence of water erosion on the walls of the Sphinx Enclosure in the 1950s. Author John Anthony West investigated further and in 1989 sought the opinion of a geologist, Robert M. Schoch, associate professor of natural science at the College of General Studies, Boston University.[15]
From his investigation of the Enclosure's geology, Schoch concluded that the main type of weathering evident on the Sphinx Enclosure walls could only have been caused by prolonged and extensive rain.[16] According to Schoch, the area has experienced a mean annual rainfall of approximately one inch (2.5 cm) since the Old Kingdom (c. 2686–2134 BCE), and since Egypt’s last period of significant rainfall ended between the late fourth and early third millennia BCE,[17] he dates the Sphinx's construction to the sixth or fifth millennia BCE.[18][19][20]
Theosophists further hold that human civilization, like all other parts of the universe, develops through cycles of seven stages. Blavatsky argued that humanity, and indeed every reincarnating human soul, evolves through a series of seven "Root Races". Thus in the first age, humans were pure spirit; in the second age, they were sexless beings inhabiting the now lost continent of Hyperborea; in the third age the giant Lemurians were informed by spiritual impulses endowing them with human consciousness and sexual reproduction. Modern humans finally developed on the continent of Atlantis. Since Atlantis was the nadir of the cycle, the present fifth age is a time of reawakening humanity's psychic gifts. The term psychic here really means the realization of the permeability of consciousness as it had not been known earlier in evolution, although sensed by some more sensitive individuals of our species.
The authors of the report have another point of
view in considering the problem. We have taken the GES age
such as it was indicated by theosophist Yelena Blavatskaya in
one of her basic works (1937). She wrote: “Notice the
indestructible witness of evolution of Human races, from
Divine, and especially Androgynous race, the Egyptian Sphinx,
that mystery of centuries”. According to Blavatskaya the time of
GES erection should exceed 750000 years. Are there some
geological indications which are evidence for such an old age
of the Sphinx? Consider the brief prehistory of the problem.
Originally posted by Exuberant1
You are the only one to mention this theory so far.
They have mixed up a legitimate comparison of stratigraphic layers in different places that can be used to date the formation of the rock itself, with a ridiculous suggestion that the Sphinx must have been underwater to generate the erosion profile that we see today.
If the rock has a varying density and consistency, a similar erosion profile will emerge whether it due to water movement or wind blown sand, and regardless of the time period during which the erosion took place.
Just another in a long line of nonsense presentations and papers and articles with a pseudo scientific veneer, but major flaws in logic and argument lurking just under the surface.
Blavatskaya, Ye. L. 1937. Tainaya Doktriona. Vol. 2. Uguns,
Riga, 1008 p. (in Russian)
The authors of the report have another point of
view in considering the problem. We have taken the GES age
such as it was indicated by theosophist Yelena Blavatskaya in
one of her basic works (1937). She wrote: “Notice the
indestructible witness of evolution of Human races, from
Divine, and especially Androgynous race, the Egyptian Sphinx,
that mystery of centuries”. According to Blavatskaya the time of
GES erection should exceed 750000 years. Are there some
geological indications which are evidence for such an old age
of the Sphinx? Consider the brief prehistory of the problem.
Gee.... this one beats even El Aref & Refai (1987) on the laughtographer, which got just about everything wrong (even going so far as to misidentify the quarry trenches in Khafre's enclosure as naturally formed karst structures (natural landforms caused by dissolution of calcite in surface water).... and just like the aforementioned there is no citation for Aigner (1983), which actually does show real evidence for wave erosion on the Giza Plateau during the Pliocene. There is also no direct mention of any of Gauri's et. al. numerous geological papers on the limestone of the Sphinx. Completely ridiculous and absurd....
I wonder if they realized the neck of the Sphinx is the most eroded part, without the modern cement in the way that is (just above the white arrow in Fig. 5.). Probably not, since it's not mentioned. They don't seem to be aware that salt weathering, and not wind abrasion, is the dominated weathering mechanism on the plateau and that the exposed core masonry on the pyramids (Emery 1960; Fitzner et. al. 2002) also shows salt weathering induce niching and tafoni (apparently what they think is due to waves). How this stuff gets past peer review is a question that really needs to be addressed.....
Researcher submits abstract to conference, conference accepts abstract along with a bunch of others on basis of short abstract, presenter presents full paper to people with superficial knowledge of subject, presenter expects to have paper published along with other presenters, peer reviewers have no real knowledge of subject.
The average conference/paper set up or even peer reviewed journal is not intended to be court-case standard review process.
The ultimate overseeing mechanism is the wider peer review process, i.e. experts read paper and spot errors.
Originally posted by coredrill
I am to blame. I forgot about the Theosophy angle..(in the beginning when they took Blavatsky's age of the pyramid as the reference)
I should never have touch ed the Blavatsky Pyramid stuff and Ascended master thingy...
Sorry!
But the two major events both coincided with enormous so-called Heinrich events approximately 16,000 and 47,000 years ago, when huge numbers of icebergs broke off of the Laurentide Ice Sheet, which covered most of Canada and much of the northern United States, into the north Atlantic.
Hendy proposes that the Heinrich events triggered sea-level rise, which caused the margins of the Cordilleran Ice Sheet to float up and destabilize.