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Originally posted by andre18
Question, even if you believe those near death experiences are some how attributed to god, why do you feel it must be the abrahamic god of the bible?
Thats a very good question-why not Zeus,Odin,Rangi,Akna,Ja, Aesculapius or Osiris?
Just wondering how the OP reconciles their new non-agnostic belief (based Not on the bible or personal experience but on reading about NDE!!!) with this biblical scripture concerning "the state of the dead".] Ecc 9:5 KJV blueletterbible. For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
I, the Preacher, was king over Israel in Jerusalem. And I set my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all that is done under Heaven...
For the living know that they will die;
But the dead know nothing.
And they have no more reward.
For the memory of them is forgotten.
Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished;
Nevermore will they have a share
In anything under the sun.
Go, eat your bread with joy,
And drink your wine with a merry heart;
For God has already accepted your works.
Let your garments always be white,
And let your head lack no oil.
Live joyfully with your wife whom you love all the days of your vain life which He has given you under the sun, all your days of vanity; for that is your portion in life, and in your labour which you perform under the sun. Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work or device or knowledge or wisdom in the grave where you are going.
If the dead do not rise, "Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die!" Do not be deceived: evil company corrupts good habits. Awake to righteousness, and do not sin; for some do not have the knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.
For Sadducees say that there is no resurrection...
The same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to Him and asked Him, saying: "Teacher, Moses said...
Jesus answered and said to them, "You are greatly mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures or the power of God... But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken of to you by God, saying, "I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob"? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living."
"I know that my Redeemer lives,
And He shall stand at last on the earth;
And after my skin is destroyed, this I know,
That in my flesh I shall see God,
Whom I shall see for myself,
And my eyes shall behold..."
"Lord, remember me when you come into your kingdom."
And Jesus said to him, "Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise."
We walk by faith, not by sight. We are confident, yes, well pleased to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.
...Then he [the unrepentant rich man] said, "I beg you therefore, father [NB - he is addressing Abraham who is already enjoying God's presence], that you would send him [Lazarus, the forgiven sinner]to my father's house, for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment." Abraham said to him. "They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them." And he said, "No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent." But he said to him, "If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be pursuaded though one rise from the dead."
Originally posted by pause4thought
We must all chose: do we believe and follow Christ and the teaching of the entire Bible, or do we go the opposite way and deny the reality of continued, conscious existence beyond the grave?
Christianity: The belief that some cosmic Jewish Zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons,
sticks turning into snakes, burning bushes, food falling from the sky,
people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive
stories, and you say that WE are the ones that need help?
When we are dead, we do indeed know not a thing, but our next waking moment will be the resurrection.