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Russian Professor Predicts Fall of U.S. in 2010

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posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 02:33 PM
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Russian Professor Predicts Fall of U.S. in 2010


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MOSCOW — For a decade, Russian academic Igor Panarin has been predicting the U.S. will fall apart in 2010. Now he's found an eager audience: Russian state media, who are interviewing him twice a day.

A polite and cheerful man with a buzz cut, Professor Panarin insists he does not dislike Americans. But he warns that the outlook for them is dire.
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posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 02:33 PM
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I realize that this has to be taken with a grain of salt, Considering the source, but with everything that is going on lately who knows.

The scary thing is how he says that the U.S will be broken up into six different regions. I was reading on another forum (Bankrupted States = Con-Con & New States Constitution) and everything in the links there was lead to just about the same thing.

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posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 02:36 PM
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Yeah it has to be taken with a grain of salt.
This is more like wishful thinking.
He would like the US to collapse.

If say a Swiss professor was predicting this then maybe you could even begin to take it seriously.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 02:37 PM
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Here is the professors image of the new U.S.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 02:41 PM
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Well, it happend to the USSR and logic tells me this could also happen to the US. Probably not momentarily but in a distant future.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 02:45 PM
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Anybody can predict anything. Nothing new there. What would be new is a compelling reason why I should listen to any of these predictions. So far, I haven't heard any.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 02:49 PM
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I agree that anyone can predict anything and that this is just propaganda. The headline should read : Russia "HOPES" for end of U.S. in 2010.

Imagine how bad of the world would be screwed if the US went in the tank.
I am sure there are those who would like to see our demise but the are not thinking about the big picture.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by BorgHoffen
Yeah it has to be taken with a grain of salt.
This is more like wishful thinking.
He would like the US to collapse.

If say a Swiss professor was predicting this then maybe you could even begin to take it seriously.


While I agree with you, I too believe that the US will collapse. It's a matter of time. However, no one can predict when.

The country is bankrupt, the debts to e.g. China and Japan are incredible and eventually the Dollar will collapse. Outcome: a similar scenario as after the USSR collapse: chaos, but worse, poverty and an aging military.

And no, I don't wish that to happen, but that's what I think will happen.


[edit on 29-12-2008 by Mdv2]



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 02:59 PM
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the professor is a little off on some details...
everybody wants to divorce California...I have heard it said that Idaho and Utah are where the troops are being bred for the war against Los Angeles...why would they join California and China, exactly? professor is drawing lines on the map is all...
but US foreign debt is a pyramid scheme, he's right on that...



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 03:08 PM
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The United States cannot collapse into regional sections. We are not the USSR. I simply don't understand the logic behind the idea that the US could breakup into six regional independent countries. It is laughable. Even if by chance the US does end up in 6 or so regional countries, these regions will see the benefit of a reunified nation and begin the process of reunification very quickly. The United States split into two countries in the 1860's because there was a central difference in ideals, but it was reunified in the blink of an eye.

Anyway, Russia should not be talking. Their economy is no better than the United States. If oil continues to decline, their economy will continue to decline.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 03:09 PM
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If the US fragments I doubt it will take that shape or be influenced very much from the outside.

The southwestern US could be dominated by Mexicans, but it would not be dominated by Mexico. The Mexican government can barely influence their own country.

Canada is not going to dominate anyone.

Texas and Alaska both have the resources to become major powers. Russia could try to take Alaska, it would be Afghanistan part two. Alaska has the highest amount of military veterans of any state and most of the population is well armed.

Texas if anything, would become a dominant power. It could easily expand its influence into the Southern US and probably even into Mexico.

The Inter Mountain West, aka the Mormon Corridor is another potential powerhouse with vast reserves of tar sand and oil shale. The Republic of Deseret could easily become a reality.

Deseret and Texas would be very powerful players in a post united America.

The most powerful entity that would emerge out of any fragmentation would be the Northeast Corridor. These are basically the original 13 colonies and foundation of the United States. Much of the world's wealth is concentrated here. It would be in the same position that Russia is in post Soviet politics. It would still dominate much of North America as its sphere of influence.

The fragmentation of the US would only build momentum for an EU style continental union probably based out of New York City.

This researcher needs to look closely at history and the structure of the American society for a plausible hypothesis and place it in to context.
The EU, China, and Russia will not be any position in the near future to dominate the US.

If we went down in 2010, we would drag the planet down with us. It would be like the fall of Rome and a new age of darkness and strife would envelop the world.

I personally don't think we'll go down that quick. The 2020s would be more plausible.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 03:13 PM
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MOSCOW — For a decade, Russian academic Igor Panarin has been predicting the U.S. will fall apart in 2010. Now he's found an eager audience: Russian state media, who are interviewing him twice a day.



Can anybody say Ratings?

How accurate is this guy?
What else has he predicted accurately? Did he predict the fall of the former Soviet Union?
I would not consider that a prediction anyway more like a state of fact!



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by ice1300



Here is the professors image of the new U.S.


New England will be their own nation if the USA does split. Virginia and everything north would be considered a nation. I live in South Carolina and find it ridiculous that this guy would say South Carolina would be included with New England in some new nation.

I also laugh at the Idea that the Texas Republic will be part of Mexico or under its influence. I was born and grew up in Texas and the idea of Texas falling under Mexican control would cause most Texans to pick up arms and destroy anything and everything anti-Texan. The stereotypical Texan is very real in many parts of Texas. I will however say that border towns may go to Mexico.

Also, Alaska going to Russia and Hawaii going to China or Japan is just flat out stupid.


This guy is a loon.

[edit on 29/12/08 by Pfeil]



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 03:18 PM
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That is why US oligarchs aka CEOs, agents of foreign interests, neocons and various mafia groups are all gutting the economy and stealing the nations silverware.

Follow the money trail and you will find the cleptocrats stealing the nation's wealth and don't count on the alphabet agencies saving America, they're tasked with suppressing the American people. Sharrup and pay your taxes, Israel needs more munitions.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 03:22 PM
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The professor made one mistake, New York state will be bought by Israel with the money stolen by Madoff and other cleptocrats like him.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 03:22 PM
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don't forget people
american roads, bridges etc... are all for sale!

this could be the beggining of chinese ownership



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
don't forget people
american roads, bridges etc... are all for sale!

this could be the beggining of chinese ownership


Who wants to buy roads when people are too poor to drive. This is another fire sale with the money ending up where the rest went. Didn't tax dollars build these infrastructure?

This really annoys me especially when Americans don't know what's good for them. The country has been poison by zionists.

[edit on 033131p://pm3158 by masonwatcher]



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 03:40 PM
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Those "oligarchs" are primarily based in the NE corridor from Boston to Washington D.C.



That region alone if independent would be the fourth largest economy on the earth. Everything from Ivy League universities, to many Fortune Global 500 companies, the UN HQ, GE, IBM, Time Warner, News Corp, and much more.

It is the heart of the US and would be the heart of a continental union if the states fragmented.

It has very little to do with Israel.

If the anti Israel people would bother to do real research they would see that Israel has been manipulated and used just like many other nations and peoples. Israel and the Jews are pawns in a much bigger game that goes far beyond simplistic notions of Zion or the Middle East. The board spans the entire globe and the stakes are much higher than finite sources of oil.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 04:03 PM
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One should never say never.

Who would have predicted the rapid fall of the Soviet Union or the Warsaw Pact or the tearing down of the Berlin Wall and the re-unification of Germany?

I am not saying it will happen, but it could. Maybe not quite how this professor has predicted and probably not next year.

The US, like the UK is basically bankrupt - Expect hyperinflation someday soon.

PS: The world will still exist and survive if the US falls. No-one is indispensible.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 04:19 PM
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The world will still exist, but we have seen the global effects of the housing market collapse and credit crunch in the US. If the US collapsed in the immediate future, the effects on a global scale would make the current mess pale in comparison.




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