Whats going on at yellowstone?

Originally posted by spinkyboo

Periodically, applications are made for geothermal leases in Known Geothermal Resource Areas (KGRAs) outside the park, such as in the Island Park KGRA west of the park, and the Corwin Springs KGRA north of YNP near LaDuke Hot Springs.

Idaho Geothermal leases
island park

Just sayin' -
When these start disappearing off the official page -
but we still see them on the seismograph... odd?

DELETED NOTIFICATION ==
***This event has been deleted after review by a seismologist.***
Geographic coordinates: 44.270N, 110.973W Magnitude:
4.6 Universal Time (UTC):
12 Feb 2011 02:36:09 Time near the Epicenter:
11 Feb 2011 19:36:09
Location with respect to nearby cities:
32 km (20 miles) ENE (58 degrees) of Warm River, ID
39 km (24 miles) SE (131 degrees) of Island Park, ID
42 km (26 miles) NE (44 degrees) of Drummond, ID

I could easily write a monster rant about the reason for all this "chatter". Stirring the pot as I said. But I don't have time. I have something precious to nuture and watch.

So now that I have a moment, I want to repost the information about the Geothermal leases.


I'm all wound up but am busy with my boy so it would be nice if somebody else picked up the ball and explain why this is such a bad idea.

Love my boy.

reply to post by PuterMan
I am a Norwegian, and we do have a "High-frequency Active Auroral Research Project" (HAARP) at the EISCAT Ramfjordmoen facility where some of my family members and friends are working.

The info I have is that even though the HAARP tests are still at a low level, the program already have the capability to trigger floods, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes and stormy weather conditions due to the known ELF frequency that can penetrate the Earth's surface and detect hidden bunkers, oil, gas e.t.c.

When HAARP sends up a signal in the high frequency range and they begin to pulse or vibrate that signal, the ionosphere itself converts from DC to AC, begins to mirror the pulse rate and acts like a giant broadcast antenna in the sky, perhaps as much as a 1,000 miles above this transmitter. It pulses the signal back to the earth in the extremely low frequency (ELF) range. This is between one and approximately 100 Hertz. That is what is used for communication with submarines at depth. They are supposed to also use 14 and 26 mile long antennas buried underground in Michigan, Wisconsin and in Alaska to create that signal.
With HAARP, they thought they would have a little more versatility and the ability to communicate at higher data rates and more efficiently with submarines at depth. It is the same ELF that is used for earth penetrating tomography because you need a long wave in order to penetrate the earth to any great degree.

But there are problems with using HAARP for Earth Penetrating Tomography.

Brooks Agnew, a specialist in the area of earth penetrating tomography, did research back in the 1970s using 30 watts of electricity to send a signal into the earth to locate underground oil and gas deposits.

"In 1983, I did radio tomography with 30 watts, looking for oil in the ground. I found 26 oil wells, over a nine state area, and 100% of the time was accurate with just 30 watts of power beaming straight into solid rock. HAARP uses a BILLION watts, beamed straight into the ionosphere for experiments. Picture strings on a piano as layers of the earth. Each one has its own frequency. What we use to do was to beam radio waves into the ground and it would vibrate any strings that were present in the ground. We might get a sound back like "C" and we would say "that is natural gas". We might get a sound back like "E" and we would say that is crude oil. We were able to identify each frequency. We accomplished this with just 30 watts of radio power. If you do this with a BILLION watts, the vibrations are so violent that the entire piano would shake. In fact the entire house would shake. In fact the vibrations could be so severe under ground that it could even cause an earth quake."

This statement was echoed in a lecture given by the previous Secretary of Defense, Cohen, on April 27, 1997 at the University of Georgia. He was speaking on weapons of mass destruction and he asserted that "electromagnetic waves can be used to stimulate geophysical events such as earthquakes, climate change, volcanic eruptions and the like". In fact, there is an international treaty going back to 1977 forbidding the use of weapon technologies which do these very same things. The fact that we might trigger a geophysical event using this system has been and continues to be a major concern. Secretary of Defense Cohen also stated that this is being used in an ecotype of terrorism, whereby they can alter climate, set off earthquakes and volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. We can all can bring it up on the DOD's website and see it our self.

Maybe this was what Red Cloak meant?

reply to post by Roald


One of the best summaries I have read.

I'm wondering...have you read my rumbling thread? (See link in my sig) I had automatically dismissed the HARP idea, but now you have me thinking about it.

If the USGS is really deleting EQ's that are happening in Yellowstone the last few days - that to me is very concerning and clear cut sign that an eruption is imminent in the near future.

So at this point I hope that this is not the case and that these events weren't real EQ's - but then again I do recall a story about Hillary Clinton recently meeting with diplomats from across the world on short notice last week.

Also you have the FEMA request for millions of coffins, food packets, etc to be submitted sometime this month I believe.

So when you connect the dots it certainly looks suspicious right now....

reply to post by westcoast

Going to check the rumbling thread and bookmark it.
When it comes to HAARP and what it can do, then please do think about it again. I have research papers here from the Ramfjordmoen facility that I can not share, but who basically say the same things as I posted.

reply to post by Disconnected Sociopath


The only part of your post I have time to reply to is just this ---- If Yellowstone were to erupt in an event that was major, - There would be no need for coffins. Those that were near would be fried, those on the outer edge would be burried in ash not a coffin.

Originally posted by Anmarie96
reply to post by Disconnected Sociopath

 

The only part of your post I have time to reply to is just this ---- If Yellowstone were to erupt in an event that was major, - There would be no need for coffins. Those that were near would be fried, those on the outer edge would be burried in ash not a coffin.

youre right if yelly erupts in full glory....but wat if they expecting an small one?

reply to post by Roald


I have to say Roald that I have looked many many times for proof of the effect of HAARP and NO ONE has ever been able to provide it.

I don't think Red Cloak or any other 'conspiracy theorists' out there have ever seen this information, in this manner, otherwise it would have been posted all round the web. Yes we can read the page you linked, but that is not the same as hearing if from someone who we sort of 'know' if you understand what I mean.

All I can say is:

Gob-smacked (maybe)

By the way no $1 million however as you did not follow the requested format for reply.

Ok is intellicast a good site because I am sure it is, and they are showing all the quakes as well that the usgs reported then deleted.

Here is the link. I will await your reply.
www.intellicast.com... eA

They also have the 4.6 on there page. Their site is linked to the computers at the usgs. So I would assume that if the computers are deleting information, that the computers would also delete this, but they didn't. This whole flurry of deletions over the past few days have caused me to wonder if this is the result of the Obama administration's gag order on the usgs after the last media frenzy. I know that the guys at usgs would never purposefully delete these quakes, because they have been reporting quakes of all sizes from Yellowstone, since there was usgs.

reply to post by shikori

Their site is linked to the computers at the usgs. So I would assume that if the computers are deleting information, that the computers would also delete this, but they didn't.

Their site is no more linked to computers at the USGS than mine is. IF they wrote their programs properly - which few do - they would see the deletions, but no people like this just go on collecting information with no realisation that this can change hours, days, weeks and even months after the event.

I collect information from the USGS every 5 minutes, but even I cannot track info that changes after 7 days easily. (I could do it but it is not worth the effort.)

I will say this just once more:

The earthquakes did not happen. They do not show on the waveforms that I download. They do not show on the seismos. They were caused by ice build up.

If web sites wish to live in la-la land as far as earthquakes are concerned that is OK, but here on ATS our motto is DENY IGNORANCE. Please remember that.

reply to post by PuterMan


Ok so its settled they did not happen. I just checked my recorder and can't seem to find any. What I did see was a 6.0 in Chile and a 6.1 in the Pacific. Happend not too long ago too.

reply to post by shikori


Sorry, that tirade was not directed at you, but rather at the dis-info sites out there.

I am hoping you did not take my rather caustic style the wrong way.

reply to post by PuterMan



Well I have followed this thread sence page 550, and I haven't chimed in as i'm on a new learning curve with all this information a data analysis.

In regards to HAARP and sound waves/frequencies/wattage, it must be very possible to shake/distrub the ground with sound waves in a specific location.
I play with loudspeakers in vehicles, and have accomplished WELL over 160DB's of sound pressure in a vehicle with under 10,000watts of power and 1 subwoofer/speaker. Now the frequencies we play in our vehicles are between 20hz and 100hz. To experience a level of 160dbs ina vehicle is very destructive. Mirrors fall off, every panel comes loose, windshields start to crack, and even welds let go all the time all throughout the vehicle. IF you are in the vehicle at this pressure level, you feel extreme pain in your ear drums, and all the muscles in your body experience uncontrollable contractions.
We place a microphone/sensor to read the sound pressure in Decibals on the windshield in a very spcific location. Now we alter our systems to create the most pressure at the area of the microphone specifically.(there are sound competitions that use this format all over the world)

The Earth is of course a HUGE playing field compared to a vehicle, but my point is, that sound can be directed and pressurized in a very specific location. Now to even think of a billion watts being sent out at ELF's is insane.. especially if it's directed or pressureized at specific locations.

reply to post by Roald


Sorry Roald, I have to call you out on two points.

This statement was echoed in a lecture given by the previous Secretary of Defense, Cohen, on April 27, 1997 at the University of Georgia. He was speaking on weapons of mass destruction and he asserted that "electromagnetic waves can be used to stimulate geophysical events such as earthquakes, climate change, volcanic eruptions and the like".

What the article says is:

Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.

This is inferring that the terrorists are engaging in this activity and not the US. As such, this so called 'lecture' is basically a bunch of nonsense not far removed from a conspiracy site post with, of course, the inevitable "I can't tell you any thing." (Not in relation to HAARP but the whole thing).

Next you say:

In fact, there is an international treaty going back to 1977 forbidding the use of weapon technologies which do these very same things.

Yet the US and the EU and Russia and I believe one or two others are still going ahead and building these?

The other point I wanted to tackle?

With HAARP, they thought they would have a little more versatility and the ability to communicate at higher data rates and more efficiently with submarines at depth.

Sorry, fail. ELF is VERY low bandwidth, only transmitting two or three characters a minute if that. See about half way down this page on communication with submarines. If you want more information about ELF waves and their production and uses see here.

There are ELF signals all around us. Power lines @ 50 or 60Hz etc. Even lightning produces ELF signals apparently?! Really? Don't know anything about that one. The Earth Tide is another - a signal that can make seismos look very strange sometimes as they move up and down on the plot.

I still maintain that HAARP CANNOT set off Yellowstone and until someone can prove convincingly that it is possible, I will continue to disbelieve. I am not asking for secret documents, just for the science of it.

Gob no longer smacked.

Now, Brooks Agnew. The Phoenix Science Foundation. Sounds good doesn't it. But it is his own site!

Domain ID: D129309804-LROR
Domain Name: PHOENIXSCIENCEFOUNDATION.ORG
Created On:22-Sep-2006 02:54:26 UTC
Last Updated On:24-Aug-2009 17:56:25 UTC
Expiration Date:22-Sep-2011 02:54:26 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Tucows Inc. (R11-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:tutfAQXy3XXYMlaF
Registrant Name:Brooks Agnew
Registrant Organization: Phoenix Science Foundation
Registrant Street1:248 Lawrence Street
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Madisonville
Registrant State/Province:KY
Registrant Postal Code:42431
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2708258485
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.0000000000
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email: [email protected]

Source

Re Agnew's ELF machine:

Dr Agnew experienced the power of ELF waves first hand back in the 1980′s. He was hired by an energy company to locate oil and gas using the same kind of ELF waves (at much lower frequencies) to carry out a search - a process called 'Earth Tomography'. During one particular incident, Dr Agnew believes his use of HAARP-like ELF waves accidentally triggered an earthquake.

Dr Agnew: “It was in the spring of 1987, we arrived in Roseburg, Oregon to use our ELF technology to search for oil and gas. Setting up that day, we had a little bit different results than we expected, because the instant that we energized it there was between a 4 and 4.5 (on the Richter scale) earthquake. We were so amazed about what seemed to be cause and effect - we get to an area that has a high propensity for earthquakes - an area known as the Mega Thrust [fault line] of the North Pacific - we turn it on and the earthquake occurs.”

Source: The catastrophist Mm, impressive site name. Inspires one with confidence

And the proof of this is where? Well as far as I can see nowhere other than in his head.

Perhaps you would like to see his CV on Our Hollowed Earth

Yes, he is the idiot behind this theory.

From another site the information as to how HAARP can cause earthquakes. (This applies to the three blocks below)

conspiracyrealitytv.com...

A very long wavelength that efficiently passes through the Earth. And that can be used for a number of things including Earth penetrating tomography, the idea of looking into the Earth, or in plain language it would be by comparison like X-raying the Earth. You're looking into the Earth for underground mineral layers, underground shelters, nuclear facilities and the like.

Not unless you have specific receivers set up (see lightning tomography above) and know which areas the wave is passing through. It would not be like X-Raying the earth otherwise it would have been done and mineral exploration would no longer be required - just as one example. It just is not as easy as that.

Brooks (Agnew) concern was much broader in terms of what could be triggered with Earth penetrating tomography. And one of the things that he noted was, the effect of resonance. This idea of sending energy in, it harmonizes in such a way that causes the energy to actually to be more than the sum of the total. It's like the old WWI stories where the armies were marching across wooden bridges in Europe, and some hours after they had marched across, the bridges would just collapse.

This applies to bridges because the 'wave' is a physical vibration being set up by the marching. By the same token Tesla's machine created resonant vibrations. It is/was not radio waves. It is my belief that a radio wave of the same resonant frequency as a particular bridge could be pointed at the bridge in question and left there for years with no effect. I have no proof of that however.

This idea of resonance when applied to Earth penetrating tomography at very high power levels causes concern for many scientists including Brooks Agnew. Because what he believes is possible, is to trigger events within the Earth. Geophysical events - earthquake, volcanic eruptions, the kinds of things that may already be on the edge of discharge, and with the right resonant energies added into the system, cause them to overload and actually fracture. In fact it was William Cohen who actually made the statement regarding weapons of mass destruction and the idea of generating earthquakes artificially.

What we have here is basically every web site regurgitating the same old rubbish that it seems even the Senator believes. All sources eventually point back to Brooks Agnew as being the perpetrator of this immense hoax upon gullible conspiracy theorists.

HOLLOW PLANET THEORY; U.S. scientist, believers to sail on icebreaker Richard Foot, CanWest News Service Published: Wednesday, May 30, 2007

A U.S. scientist and a small band of believers are planning a journey to the Canadian Arctic for what they call "the greatest geological expedition in history."

Are they searching for Arctic oil reserves? Documenting evidence of climate change?

Not quite. They're looking for a fog-shrouded hole in the Arctic Ocean that leads -- they say -- to the centre of the Earth, where an unknown civilization is lurking inside the hollow core of the planet.

This time next year, Kentucky based physicist and futurist Brooks Agnew hopes to board the commercially owned Russian icebreaker Yamal in the port of Murmansk, and to sail into the polar sea just beyond Canada's Arctic islands.

Source

It seems that if the expedition did ever set sail, it obviously fell down the hole as there have been no reports about it since.

A few Earthscope funded projects using tomography.
Refining Seismic Velocity and Attenuation Structure of the San Andreas Fault Near Parkfield, California Using Full-3D Waveform Tomography
Collaborative Research: Evaluating the Roles of Melt Migration and Mantle Flow in Lithospheric Evolution: The Colorado Plateau as a Geodynamic Laboratory for EarthScope
Collaborative Research: Multiscale Travel Time Tomography of the Mantle to 1000 km Depth Beneath the Western USA
Source for these: Earthscope Funded Programs

Now search using these terms in Google:

"finite frequency techniques" +"3-D wave propagation techniques"

You will find an XML file that relates to the last project above. This shows clearly that the receivers are the Earthscope array and the US TA array. We know these seismographs.

The link here relates to people who have built these HAARP arrays. The HIPAS array is now closed.

I could go on and on but I have spent several hours researching this now. Out of literally hundreds of web pages, there is not ONE credible link to HAARP and earthquakes, only 2 to HAARP and ELF (by the way I don't have a problem with that line, just that it is NOT going to set off earthquakes.) Nearly every site links back, in some way or another, to Brooks Agnew and NONE of them are able to provide any information other than that apparently provided by Agnew himself. That does NOT make for a credible argument that HAARP could set off Yellowstone, or any other earthquake. Sorry.

As is so often said on ATS

Photos, links etc or it did not happen

reply to post by FrackOff

I play with loudspeakers in vehicles, and have accomplished WELL over 160DB's of sound pressure in a vehicle with under 10,000watts of power and 1 subwoofer/speaker. Now the frequencies we play in our vehicles are between 20hz and 100hz.

Sound from speakers = vibrations from speakers = Tesla maybe = yes. Radio frequencies? Nope.

Thanks for your post it goes some way to proving my point.

By the way you should be very careful with that. 14 cycles can kill you if sustained.

Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by FrackOff

 

I play with loudspeakers in vehicles, and have accomplished WELL over 160DB's of sound pressure in a vehicle with under 10,000watts of power and 1 subwoofer/speaker. Now the frequencies we play in our vehicles are between 20hz and 100hz.

Sound from speakers = vibrations from speakers = Tesla maybe = yes. Radio frequencies? Nope.

Thanks for your post it goes some way to proving my point.

By the way you should be very careful with that. 14 cycles can kill you if sustained.

edit on 13/2/2011 by PuterMan because: (no reason given)

Yes i have read that about low frequencies! scary stuff!

As for radio frequencies, they produce no vibrations at all? If it's directed at one location can pressure not build up still?

Thanks PuterMan, I've learned a lot from you so far. Keep it coming

reply to post by FrackOff

As for radio frequencies, they produce no vibrations at all? If it's directed at one location can pressure not build up still?

So I am led to believe. I had my backside pwned a while ago on ATS for suggesting that radio waves might cause a vibration so whilst I admit I am not a "radio" person I have reason to believe this is the case.

When you think of the huge amount of radio waves all around us I guess this is probably correct.

Seems as if our solar maximum is finallly under way. Lets see if the dynamo theory and solar flares will affect seismic activity, and lets hope we don't get a serious one to send us back to the stonage.
www.spaceweather.com...

All this media ground news is to distract from whats happening in the worlds skies during 3/11/2011 thur 3/12/2011.look up our redemption draws near on stellarium.thousands of years of watching the sky,priests keeping this knowledge from the masses. Knowing when celestial bodies are to be the sky held superstitious power over others.

reply to post by huntergatherer


If you see a writer who only wrote one book, that no one knows about. Who works as a driver for some rich guy, with his two kids, just run.

There are always a lot of mini-quakes in this caldera. Yellowstone is one giant Mega-Volcano. When it does indeed erupt. Every one within a hundred or so miles will vaporize, and the rest of us will have to learn to breath through masks for a year or two. The smog will block out the sun for a year or two killing most plants, and animals. So overall it will totally suck when it happens.