Hey Skeptics….Merry Christmas! A little Christology 101 from the OldThinker and Gospels!

Originally posted by OldThinker
Thank you for the counsel on logic, do YOU have an issue/argument with the Bible that you would like to take up with OT?

No, I just never saw what any of the fuss was about.

Happy holidays.

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Hey rikk7111,

You too! The kids are really excited about their presents...so is OT!

Originally posted by bsbray11

Originally posted by OldThinker
Thank you for the counsel on logic, do YOU have an issue/argument with the Bible that you would like to take up with OT?

No, I just never saw what any of the fuss was about.

Happy holidays.

Me either!!!


Thanks, saw physics on your salutation...thought you might be interested here... www.abovetopsecret.com...

Wish you well...

OT

Originally posted by MatrixProphet
Hey OT!

Here is some information on Gnosticism:

It is considered to be a knowledge of the divine mysteries and especially for an elite group.

Gnostics were more concerned with knowing God directly through experience than gaining FACTS about Jesus or God. They were concerned less about faith in Jesus' words and were more interested in becoming like him and in turn about knowing God.

Here are some points that come from the site, gnosis.org that describe many characteristics of Gnostics:

*The Gnostics posited an original spiritual unity that came to be split into a plurality.

*As a result of the precosmic division the universe was universe was created.This was done by a leader possessing inferior spiritual powers and who often resembled the OT Jehovah.

*A female emanation of God was involved in the cosmic creation (Sophia).

*In the cosmos, space and time have a malevolent character an may be personified as demonic beings separating man from God.

*For man, the universe is a vast prison. He is enslaved both by the physical laws of nature and by such moral laws as the Mosaic code.

*Mankind may be personified as Adam, who lies in the deep sleep of ignorance, his powers of spiritual self-awareness stupefied by materiality.

*Within each natural man is an "inner man," a fallen spark of the divine substance. Since this exists in each man, we have the possibility of awakening from our stupefaction.

*What effects the awakening is not obedience, faith, or good works, but knowledge.

*Before the awakening, men undergo troubled dreams.

*Man does not attain the knowledge that awakens him from these dreams by cognition but through revelatory experience, and this knowledge is not information but a modification of the sensate being.

*The awakening (i.e., the salvation) of any individual is a cosmic event.

*Since the effort is to restore the wholeness and unity of the Godhead, active rebellion against the moral law of the OT is enjoined upon every man.


This subject is being discussed here, and may interest you on some level.

MP, Thanks for the info....

You know real issue for OT is, "whom do they say he is?"

OT'll look through it...thanks

OT out

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Old Man and Oldthinker should get together for a dee-caff!!!!

Anything else might excite us too much

Merry Christmas to you and yours....

Man the skeptics are quiet tonight...

Nah, thanks for the thought!!!

OT, thanks for this thread.

I did enjoy the music.

Those special five words you pointed out seem to have been forgotten by so many young people.

I am with you in the spirit of this thread. When I feel I can add something meaningful I will.

Please continue......you are doing fine.

Originally posted by dizziedame
OT, thanks for this thread.

I did enjoy the music.

Those special five words you pointed out seem to have been forgotten by so many young people.

I am with you in the spirit of this thread. When I feel I can add something meaningful I will.

Please continue......you are doing fine.

Long time no hear...


Those five words ARE the reason OT is on here!!!!


Great hearing from you!!!

OT rockin'


Here's another great one when you have time... www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by rikk7111
Merry CHRISTmas everyone!!!!!..........Whether you like it or not..

rikk7111,

Found this one for you...sometimes we don't even know we are in bondage...to a matrix, so to speak....


The Christ of Christmas frees us... see... www.youtube.com...


Love this one!!!!

Originally posted by OldThinker

Originally posted by rikk7111
Merry CHRISTmas everyone!!!!!..........Whether you like it or not..

rikk7111,

Found this one for you...sometimes we don't even know we are in bondage...to a matrix, so to speak....


The Christ of Christmas frees us... see... www.youtube.com...


Love this one!!!!

Yeah!, thats a good one. I like this one as well..............

YouTube

[edit on 8-12-2008 by rikk7111]

Originally posted by rikk7111

Originally posted by OldThinker

Originally posted by rikk7111
Merry CHRISTmas everyone!!!!!..........Whether you like it or not..

rikk7111,

Found this one for you...sometimes we don't even know we are in bondage...to a matrix, so to speak....


The Christ of Christmas frees us... see... www.youtube.com...


Love this one!!!!

Yeah!, thats a good one. I like this one as well..............

YouTube

[edit on 8-12-2008 by rikk7111]

That's freaky....I had sent this to 'simply' about an hour ago!!!


You catch those 5 WORDS on my 2nd vid on the OP?

OT

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Yeah, I caught it................Cool......