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This investigation has grown from dryly describing numbers on non profit tax returns to exposing the Shriners' dirty-little-secret sub-group, the Royal Order of Jesters and their prostitution scandals.
It's been kind of shocking to discover that this American icon has been "misleading the public for years" (1), and then come to find out that some of these Shriner/Jesters have committed sex crimes under the guise of being a non profit group.
sandyfrost.newsvine.com...
As I wrote in the other thread back in March
Originally posted by masonwatcher
Masons normally say, "Jesters are not masons..., or maybe, 'There are many subgroups that are not masons..."
I take issue with Frost writing "Royal Order of Jesters (ROJ) AKA Shriners AKA Masons". It's true that to be a Shriner, you must be a Master Mason, and to be in the ROJ, you must be a Shriner. But AKA implies equivalence, when clearly ROJ is a subset of a subset of masonry, and in no way should be used to reflect on masonry as a whole. That's like saying because Ted Stevens AKA a Reublican AKA a Senator may have been involved in a gay sex scandal, the whole Legislative Branch of the US government must be into gay sex. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Or law practice. Take your pick.
The fact is, the route to secretive corruption is Freemasonry.
Originally posted by Icarus_Fallen
Masonwatcher,
No offense, but the fragrance of the Jesters' supposed "hypocrisy" is overwhelmed by the stench of your sheeplike self-righteousness.
Morality is notoriously subjective.
from: masonwatcher
sent: 063131p://am3154 at 06:14 AM
I seriously take issue with you insinuation of plagiarism. I pasted the link with article itself! I did not claim to have invented the incident nor pass of the article as mine; the link was attached. I merely did not follow the ATS format having struggled to put the images on the post.
Plagiarism suggests that someone is passing off some else's words in there body of work. I did not produce any work but highlighted a news article. Please correct the tag of plagiarism you placed on the post.
Yet, somehow you left off the required copyright notice...
Originally posted by masonwatcher
I seriously take issue with you insinuation of plagiarism.
All copies of material reprinted or duplicated from "by Sandy Frost" must include the following credit line: From sandyfrost.newsvine.com... Copyright © 2008 by Sandy Frost. Used by permission.
Well it was, wasn't it? I mean, the guy accused was a State Supreme Court Judge, after all... Sounds like a lawyer to me.
Originally posted by masonwatcher
So what you are saying is that the Jester prostitution racket was run by lawyers?
Rather a bizarre juxtaposition between me and Freemasons[…]
if no law was meant to be broken, there would be no United States of America today
…if no law was meant to be broken, there would be no United States of America today.
It is ridiculous and has no bearing in any small act involved, no?
Equally attacking Freemasonry is not necessarily about attacking all of a person but a facet opted into by an individual. […]
only flawed by virtue of your motivation; it’s fallacious by means of the appeal to guilt by association.
Originally posted by masonwatcher
Of course I am going to be sanctimonies about Freemasons seeing that I am a victim of Freemason fair-gaming and harassment. I explained on a previous post that until I get justice I will endeavour to take a small piece off Freemasonry. You should see what else I have been promulgating. Hopefully others will follow suit.
Originally posted by masonwatcher
reply to post by LowLevelMason
I'll hold you to it. As you can imagine verifying the statements and evidences provided by others takes time. When it lands in court, ATS will be the first place I will be putting the details.
...Really in the end I have to prove that it is more than a few brothers involved as I have discovered first hand.
Originally posted by Icarus_Fallen
Masonwatcher,
Note the context in which I've called into question your motivation. I've highlighted the fact that your attacks on Freemasonry "as a whole" are based on allegations involving two specific groups. Apart from the point that this amounts to an appeal to the Guilt by Association fallacy, there's also an implicit misguidedness associated with your motives. That is, going after Freemasonry because you feel that you've been wronged by a handful of Masons, is similar to condemning an entire ethnicity on the basis of the actions of a few of its constituents. In both instances, the motivation for a wholesale condemnation is clearly misguided.