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Originally posted by Simplynoone
I guess people do not understand what being born again means . ...
So hard to explain this ...help someone who is good at explaining this ..
Originally posted by pieman
but we're only allowed use the words you believe are from god, right. it is only the words that you deem to be true.
Originally posted by justamommaIt is evident that I have more faith and trust in G-d since I believe His words and made no excuses or interpretations about them. He speaks for Himself. This is something I still have yet to see from anyone else on this thread. SHOW me that you have arrived at your conclusions via the words of G-d.
you say you do not interpret the word of god yet you do so by giving an opinion on it's meaning that someone else might not have.
you put yourself above others so i know you're wrong.
Originally posted by justamomma
1. Show me the words of G-d that agree with what you are saying is what I asked for.
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by justamomma
I have never seen another who claims they understand the teachings of the Bible judge others so harshly about how 'they are wrong'.
This is how I know your ego is beyond yourself. You limit God and you limit what understandings Thee has for others. Let God do the judging...if you can allow yourself that humble action.
You are no different then the priest that tell others...THIS IS WHAT YOU MUST BELIEVE OR ELSE> Its a fear tactic to get others to follow your ways.
It is obvious that others have found a path of peace or understanding that different then others. Who are you to say anyone is wrong.
Where in the Bible did God call you his only mouthpiece....
Peace to all,
Originally posted by Incarnated
The facts that christians need to face is that the Jews stole many of their "holy writings" from the sumerians and then to back date the Jews as a people they spun the taken writings and put them in nationalistic and self grandizing documents that they felt were the leadings of God.
The facts that christians need to face is that Paul and the early chruch fathers, to make the story of jesus more acceptable to the masses of the day and future generations, took great liberties in spinning well known and accepted mythologies of the time and sprinkeled those well known mythological stories upon the unseasoned story of Jesus.
Until then the christians fail to rise above their own conspiracies in religion.
That's well and good, but, are you willing to do the work? To accend into the higher states, one needs be found willing to alow the will of the father to change them so that they will fit within The Will of God rather then the Will of the Creature.
Originally posted by Buddy420
For the Christians: If you have faith that your beliefs are right, why must you argue to justify them, just accept that others disagree.
For the New Agers(like me): I can see the parallels in the OT and more ancient sumerian text, but why should the Christian's have to accept it.
Both are really old texts that can be spun in all different directions depending on what world view you need it to fit. My point is that unless you were there at the time of their creation you don't have any more true knowledge than anyone else. Let's just agree to disagree, and have that be it. Bickering hasn't got us any closer to the truth in the last thousand years and will not in the next thousand(assuming humankind makes it that far).
If you have been on ATS for long enough you will realize some people just like to argue for the sake of arguing. Don't let some one else's world view get you bent out of shape, after all it's not like their putting a gun to your head and telling you to convert to theirs or die.
Time's are gettin' tuff and now more than ever we need to come together despite our differences.