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PROOF That Santa Claus is REAL

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posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 12:50 AM
reply to post by zorgon

Knowledge of the force and blind faith are two very different bringers of gifts . 'Miracles' performed through hidden proxy tech are a kind of magic .... but santa knows the difference between illusion and proper application of technologies Norad cannot detect . Still its okay to dream I guess . Jesus got whacked when he figured out how he performed miracles . Where was his god and faith then ?

Much you still have to learn Zorgon.

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 01:10 AM

Originally posted by reconpilot
Much you still have to learn Zorgon.

You bet
Never stops... but then that's why I'm here... you?

To All:
NGA Update...

Still no copy of that video from NGA but I wrote them a request. Seems it was so well recieved that it won an award

NGA Office of Corporate Communications' Kipling Williams earned third place for his inspired 3-D animated portrayal of Santa Claus using NGA geospatial datasets to plan his delivery route. Developed as a public affairs initiative for the NGA Web site, the animation ends with Santa Claus "activating" his lead reindeer Rudolph's nose to start the trip. This two-minute clip was recognized in the Interactive and Motion Graphics, 3-D Models and Animations category.

It also puts the NGA and their capabilities on display


WHOHOOOOO Got it!! Those guys work overtime...

High Res copy

Youtube version


[edit on 8-12-2008 by zorgon]

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 01:38 AM

Originally posted by SpacePunk
reply to post by zorgon

Does NORAD still manage to track Santa with their radar these days?

Until recently they have had a very high success rate at doing this but things may soon change it seems. Santa has contracted the Lockheed Martin Skunk Works® to build him a new high altitude stealth sleigh with an exotic anti-matter/matter annihilation propulsion system. The exact specifications are obviously being kept secret but a few details have been leaked.

There are ongoing negotiations between Santa and the U.S. Department of Defense regarding a top secret proprietary aircraft tracking method designed by DARPA and employed by the U.S. Air Force on all stealth aircraft. If a satisfactory agreement is reached this technology will also be employed by Santa to assist NORAD's annual tracking of his journeys.

It seems Donner and Blitzen overdosed on the mushrooms due to the extreme stress they had been burdened with for hundreds of years. Since they were a 'one of a kind' specialized chimera hybrid breed that could not be replaced, Santa was left with no choice but to step into the 21st century and upgrade his present delivery process. Santa it seems has finally decided to pimp his ride.

[edit on 8-12-2008 by ashamedamerican]

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 02:05 AM
reply to post by ashamedamerican

Oh ,you mean THAT SANTA ? WELL the sooner darpa wakes up and realises they are paying through the reindeers red nose for Mickey mouse tech the sooner they can find a rhino with enough balls and no brain to fly it without asking to many awkward questions . Uav to be kidding us ?
no , apparently not . Situational awareness gentlemen ,thats the new buzzword from techistan...

But dont hold your breath on that one. The more they try to change the more they make the same mistakes .

Are you the messiah ? uncle sam needs YOU .

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 02:06 AM
reply to post by zorgon
Just a little side note, I dont want to distract from your point. But i happen to know a little bit about what most of society has deemed the "magic mushroom". Ive done some years of research into the field of psychedelics( mushrooms included), and can tell you that the mushrooms pictured thus far on this post are not psychedelic. They are the Amanita Muscaria(fly agaric) mushrooms and they do not produce psychedelic or psychotomimetic effects. when roasted and brewed, they MAY produce a blurring of the vision and hypersalivation, followed occasionally by deep sleep. No hallucinogenic or psychedelic effects can be experienced by eating these mushrooms. The specimens that most of you are thinking of would be the Stropharia Cubensis, Psilocybe Cyanocens, psilocybe aztecorum, etc. Fly Agarics only contain Muscimol, Muscarine, and it is believed Atropine. these are not psychedelic compounds and would not convince man or raindeer that one could fly. "magic mushrooms" are typically of the Psyilocybe or Panouleous genera, and contain Psilocybin, Psilocin, and Baeocystine. FYI

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 02:32 AM
Coke and Santa...
The plot thickens...

Santa Lore

Most people can agree on what Santa Claus looks like -- jolly, with a red suit and a white beard. But he did not always look that way, and Coca-Cola® advertising actually helped shape this modern-day image of Santa.

2006 marked the 75th anniversary of the famous Coca-Cola Santa Claus. Starting in 1931, magazine ads for Coca-Cola featured St. Nick as a kind, jolly man in a red suit. Because magazines were so widely viewed, and because this image of Santa appeared for more than three decades, the image of Santa most people have today is largely based on our advertising

And there's nooooo way Coke would use a subject for advertise if he isn't 100% true - right?

The Real Thing ---> Santa

[edit on 8-12-2008 by silo13]

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 03:35 AM
I learned of the connections between the amanita mushroom and how it has influenced Christianity throughout time from a documentary I saw at the beginning of this year, its called Pharmacratic Inquisition, I propose everyone to watch this as you will come out significantly pleased.

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 04:06 AM

Originally posted by Harrisboy42
I'm all for conspiracies and that...

But I think you've eaten a few too many of those mushrooms yourself mate.

Originally posted by Ghost147
im trying to come up with a conclusion that your joking, but I've seen some pretty dumb people on this forum before.

im not going to bother myself or anyone else by spending the next 20 minutes showing how it is literally impossible to have a live American Ideal Santa. But i will point out the few things in your first post that makes me want to slap you.

We all know that if enough people believe it does give something 'reality' and millions of kids and adults around the world cannot all be wrong can they?

This was the first thing that made me think that you were actually kidding. No! it does not make it reality just because a lot of people believe in it. Just like most people back in the ol' days thought that because you had really really light blue eyes and believed in science made you a witch. You just stated the greatest saying that lead people through the dark ages. Apparently to your logistics, every religion in the world is correct because many people believe in them. and if we truly believe that gravity doesn't exist, then we can go flying around the world in our shoes alone. this is a completely ridicules argument for anyone that believes it.

sorry! just had to get that off my chest

Originally posted by dreamingtree
Wow this post is stupid. First off Santa really? Second off Mushrooms...Really? Those don't even look anything close to real shrooms. And yes I do know what mushrooms look like...I am in college. This post is just all around sad.

All 3 of you are in DIRE need of a sense of humour

If you couldn't recognize this thread as tongue in cheek, you must have been deprived of fun and play as a child.

Edit: Forgot to add, great thread zorgon
It's great to have a thread like this to combat all the doom and gloom.

[edit on 8-12-2008 by ben420]

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 04:27 AM

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 04:41 AM
Zorgon, starred and flagged for a really detailed post that made me chuckle out loud. And its no more unbelievable than some of the connections and conspiracys i see made on here every day

Great work mate...but seriously, you REALLY must have too much time on your hands

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 04:46 AM
Why isn't this in Breaking News?

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 04:46 AM
reply to post by ben420

Well mate to tell you the truth, I don't really go on the internet to have "fun" and a "laugh".

That's what outdoors is for.

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 05:31 AM
Santa Claus is only lazy old fat man who works only one day every year.

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 06:56 AM
Zorgon I am glad that you had some extra time on your hands this thread is so refreshing.

No doubt Norad will be keeping us updated on Christmas Eve because Norad knows well the Aliens use this night as cover to get through there Stargates.... just a side note please don't tell anyone.... Christmas is not the only Eve they use those Stargates

[edit on 8-12-2008 by observe50]

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 07:04 AM
The kind, jolly Santa is an elaborate cover up.

Seriously he is an evil man!

And I love that pic, dunno why but it's the ultimate anti-Santa

[edit on 8-12-2008 by Chadwickus]

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 07:32 AM
Great post S&F. I urge everyone to read John Allegros works (leading linguist involved in deciphering dead sea scrolls) as well as watching "Pharmacratic Inquisition".


My take on the "Santa Claus", or "Satan's Clause" as I call it.

The original Santa Claus was a Shaman, the original meaning of Xmas was getting together with loved ones and appreciating the rebirth of a new sun (solstice). The connection with nature and your loved ones is only enhanced through psychedelics (removal of insecurities and barriers allowing unconditional love) and that was taken away some 2000 years ago with the "Deal with the Devil" or "Satan's Clause".

We are now approaching the end result of that deal, as reflected in our societies obsession with materials and ourselves.

Interesting Facts

- Santa has a workshop full of elves that make gifts. Over half of all '___' trips involve some sort of contact with "Machine Elves" (T. Mckenna).

- The Siberian Shaman would dry his Amanitas in a central tree in the forest as he went about collecting his mushrooms. Hmmm, Christmas decorations anyone. Some of the oldest Christmas decorations are of wooden mushrooms. I have some from Bulgaria made in the late 1800's.

- Due to snow drifting around the Yurts (huts) and blocking the front door, the Siberian Shaman would enter the building through the door beside the chimney. Descending into the house he would deliver his villages sacrament for the solstice.

- Where did the villagers put the mushrooms when he delivered them.? They hung them in there stocking over the fire to dry.

- The word "Solstice" is derived from "Sol" (sun) and "Sistere" (still). The sun on the 21st stands still for 3 days rising 1 degree on the 25th.

- The old idea of Jesus was of God's sun, not son. Our connection with Jesus was hijacked some 2000 years ago and replaced with a material god that lived and breathed amongst us. Just as the connection with the past Jesus was vital to the harmony of the world, today we rely completely on the material Jesus, most especially this year. The name of the game to save this faltering economy is SPEND SPEND SPEND.

- We three kings of Orient are
Bearing gifts we traverse afar.
Field and fountain, moor and mountain,
Following yonder star.

Well the three kings is a common name for the belt of Orion. Oriental Studies can actually refer to Ancient Egypt Studies. Didn't ancient travellers navigate, or find their "Ori"entation by the stars. The "Ori"ginal GPS. The "Yonder Star", thats Sirius. Sirius just happens to be the brightest star in the northern hemisphere and has been for the complete duration of mans progression from ape to human.


Its understandable, society's fear and misunderstanding of psychedelics and drugs in general. They have been demonized and most of the time with good reason. Most people are exposed only to the bad side of drugs because the "Ori"gins of its use have been suppressed and pretty much forgotten.

Just remember Van Gogh wasn't high on life when he was painting his "Starry Night", the Thujone (Absinthe) was a major factor on how he viewed the world and indirectly was expressed in his art. Picasso said his cubism was a manifestation of his experiences with mescaline. Crick's '___' use was directly influential in expanding his mind to the possibility of the Double Helix. Dock Ellis threw his only "No Hitter" on '___', not steroids.

The list goes on and on and on.

Its a part of our history and to pretend that man hasn't had a complex relationship with psychoactives is tantamount to denying who we are as a people. That denial is reflected everywhere in the emptiness of our society and the polarity between those who remember and those who have forgot will only increase as we approach the singularity of 2012.

The Don

[edit on 8-12-2008 by TheRealDonPedros]

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 08:06 AM
A bunch of shrooms! Your basing your idea off of a bunch of magical mushrooms?? HAHA now thats a laugh.

I am a firm believer of the unbelievable, and even though I've had some wacked out dreams about Santa Clause, I'm not sure if Old Saint Nick and his jolly old wife would have survived without kicking the bucket for this long.

Unless... they ate 'magical' mushrooms.


And Merry Christmas

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 08:38 AM
Great Post Don Pedros. You're spot on about the polarity increasing. Believers and non-believers alike both believe the same thing, most just don't know it. Those who worship the symbols and those who worship where the symbols are derived will rarely have common ground (see Plato's Allegory of The Cave).
The benefit I have in knowing where the symbols have their origins (or "Ori"gins as you say) is that I can easily defuse a conflict by adapting my understanding to whichever religion has hijacked said symbol. Its difficult for a non-believer to go in that direction as most religions dictate a "my way or the highway" mentality.

& Merry Xmas

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 09:17 AM
I wonder if those mushrooms are still available in Amsterdam in one of the coffee shops......guess there must be quite a number of Santas then....

and if not, he has gone on a mushroom foray early this autumn...hmmm...better watch out for Santa next autumn to give him my wish

posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 09:23 AM

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