Is anyone working on building a Ufo?

Aside from the governments, I mean individuals or groups of people that arn't associated with the government and whos aim is to share this technology with everyone in the world. Alot of them hide themselves obviously.

By Ufo technology I don't mean flying saucers that operate on the Coanda (however it's spelt) effect, or generating wind by ionising the air (although these two methods are worth investigating), but I mean true anti-gravity







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I think it could totally be done with magnets that are used like ball berrings, and then have an inner shell that stays stable as the outter shell spins to cause an anti-gravity effect, and have this whole theory in my head, but because of my lack of terminolgy, couldn't really explain it.... but the super speed part I could never really figure out.

I have heard they are made with micro organisms somehow though.....kinda weird.

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Well stories have come out in the media before stating that some big companies were researching it. However Id like to point out that if anti gravity is developed, it is do to human innovation and science, NOT

due to aliens.

It really annoys me when people , such as the ancient astronaut types, or the people who think all our techology now is from aliens (such as Corso) a it is an insult to the human race, trying to insist we are incapable of innovation without alien assistance. Give humanity credit where credit is due

Originally posted by NavalFC
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Well stories have come out in the media before stating that some big companies were researching it. However Id like to point out that if anti gravity is developed, it is do to human innovation and science, NOT

due to aliens.

It really annoys me when people , such as the ancient astronaut types, or the people who think all our techology now is from aliens (such as Corso) a it is an insult to the human race, trying to insist we are incapable of innovation without alien assistance. Give humanity credit where credit is due

Very true. There's lots of evidence now that the Americans got their saucers technology from you know who, not aliens but one group of Europeans.

Private companies have been looking into "UFO" style of design. But in history, the Germans had the idea and supposidly were able to make a few operating vehicles.

This bumped America into the thought, gagued by the great ammount of prototypes that the US military turned out shortly after WWII.

Issues of Popular Mechanics have been graced with either sketches of, or actual vehicles. Popular Mechanics seems to be a haven for technology like this.

There were even kits available for a time where you could build your own.

As for right now, in this time and place, I'd be very suprised if someone wasn't in the process of, or actually have built a UFO type vehicle.

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Try here.

www.abovetopsecret.com...#



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Someone needs to call Ralph Ring who is publicly listed in Las Vegas and invite him to help out with the construction of a UFO...

Go watch Ralph Ring's interview on youtube...

MayorOfCydonia, Kudos on a damn good thread, it is just a shame that it isn't proving too popular with the posters here at ATS.

You have really done a lot of home work here and I think that you may be on to something with your concepts. I think that many of the pieces of the puzzle are here. With super fluids there is a very real possibility of accelerating matter up to relativistic speeds and I feel sure that this would generate a gravitational effect, although I would be slightly worried about the effects this device would have on time as well as space. We know that time slows down as you approach C, so would this device exist in a bubble of slowed time or would it's tempral effects be felt over a large distance? If it does reach C will it attain infinite mass and become a singularity? If you accidentally generated a black hole would you consider your experiment a success or a catastrophic failure?
Then again I guess that question is mute, since you wouldn't really have a lot of time to make your mind up before you got sucked into infinity.

Sorry I don't mean to seem alarmist, but I do think that these are real concerns.

On the up side I don't think that accelerating plasmas is the only key to Space-time manipulation. I think that Hutchinson and Thomas Townsend Brown have both stumbled on the same method of G control from different directions.

I have believed for a long time that it is possible to manipulate space using extremely high resonance molecular tuning.

I think that when the molecules and atoms within a material are vibrated fast enough that it is possible to produce a particle-less Spatial wave force.

I think that this is what the Nazis were working on and what T. T. B stumbled upon while trying to find a link between gravitational and electromagnetic force.

Using T.T.Browns work as an example, in his most successful experiments he would charge a large, inverted bowl shaped electrode, suspended above a smaller spherical electrode in a large capacitor type arraignment.

I believe that this extremely high voltage charge caused the molecules with the larger electrode to oscillate at an extremely high frequency.

The high density of electrons within the plate was attained through the capacitor arraignment of his apparatus, but I think that this arraignment also allowed the molecules within the larger electrode to vibrate in unison, to create a large powerful harmonic effect. I believe that the inertial forces generated within the larger disc may have been enough to create a wave force in the medium of space-time and that this was the force that generated the gravitational anomalies. Remember that the frequencies of the oscillations would have been incredibly high plus the combined force of trillions of atoms all bouncing back and forth in unison could have the potential to literally generate a wave force on space itself. I think that this is why Hutchinson's devices are able to destroy material so effectively, I think that we are seeing the effects of a powerful high frequency space wave on solid matter. This force would literally rip apart the molecular bonds of whatever he aims this think at. It would also explain the strange radiation effects reported by both T.T.B and the Nazis that worked on the Bell. It also rather neatly explains why they call it a bell, since that is pretty much what this device is.

I think also that when T.T.B shaped his disc into parabolic bowl shapes that he was able to focus this wave force so that it had a linear effect on space-time and would produce a directional gravitational force.

Ok thats all I have, but I think that it may be a subtly easy alternative avenue of study, if your own method becomes too costly and difficult to test.

I do think that you are really onto something.

Originally posted by Martindoolittle

The high density of electrons within the plate was attained through the capacitor arraignment of his apparatus, but I think that this arraignment also allowed the molecules within the larger electrode to vibrate in unison, to create a large powerful harmonic effect. I believe that the inertial forces generated within the larger disc may have been enough to create a wave force in the medium of space-time and that this was the force that generated the gravitational anomalies. Remember that the frequencies of the oscillations would have been incredibly high plus the combined force of trillions of atoms all bouncing back and forth in unison could have the potential to literally generate a wave force on space itself. I think that this is why Hutchinson's devices are able to destroy material so effectively, I think that we are seeing the effects of a powerful high frequency space wave on solid matter. This force would literally rip apart the molecular bonds of whatever he aims this think at. It would also explain the strange radiation effects reported by both T.T.B and the Nazis that worked on the Bell. It also rather neatly explains why they call it a bell, since that is pretty much what this device is.

Billy Meier recorded the sound of a Beamship, it does have an effect on the mind. The Bell experiment was obviously crude and they weren't aware of the dangers of it. My questions are, what is producing that sound exactly, maybe it is the forces that you have described. The other question is can we reverse-engineer that sound? It's suspected that the Pleadians are really Germans






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Is anyone working on building a Ufo?

Yeah I am man! Can you pass me that thingamabob over there?...

It's beside the... ah.... whatchamacallit !

IRM

I'm building a "something" and have done some very simple experiments which made me have to work out a design for the universe. I'm up to 7 forces instead of 4, the weirdest (and closest to "gravity") appears to be some sort of pseudo ftl effect although nothing actually goes anywhere.

I'm may still kill off gravity completely as matter may be attracted to regions of space/time rather than other bits of matter, but I normally mull that one over just to annoy myself.

Oh, there appears to a God because the whole thing seems to be some sort of recording system. I'm staying an aethiest though because I'm not having some hairy ar$ed deity telling me what to do.

Number of basic dimensions in the universe = 1
Number of basic matter objects in the universe = 1

The rest is smoke'n'mirrors.

IMVHO

someone in California made a ufo that lift up off the ground 25ft, you might want to look into it?

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Its similar to the sounds Johnny Anonymous recorded at the Gilliand ranch. I think that you are correct that if these things do use I frequency Spatial waves that it is possible that these waves could drop into an audible range. It could also explain why animals have been observed behaving strangely in the presence of UFOs. It could be that some of these things are incredibly noisy, but just beyond the range of human ears.

Concerning your idea of reverse engineering the sounds Billy Meier recorded. Perhaps an audio specialist could pinpoint the precise frequency of the sounds, which could give clues as to the range of spatial wave frequencies that are useful for Gravity manipulation.

The good thing is that If I am right and it is possible to generate a gravitational effect in the way that I outlined, it would be relatively cheap and easy to prove.

I remember seeing a supposed piece of Roswell crash debris that appeared to be made up of incredibly thin layers of a magnesium based metal, sandwiched with something else (I cannot remember what). At the time I remember thinking that it would probably work well as a gravity bell.

Trouble is that I cannot remember where I saw it and who the debris belonged to.

If someone figured out how to create a mechanism which moves with planets gravitational pull.

You could move as fast or slow as you wanted.

Its kind of like the magnet idea.

I wouldn't be able to explain it properly but i have heard scientists are working with something similar to what i mentioned!

Searl Disc.

Searl Levitating Discs

Searl Disc articles.

Searl Disc Articles

The Searl Effect.

Searl Effect

S.E.G Review

Searl Effect Generator Review

Searl Motor.


Searl Motor

Searl Anti-Grav Vehicle

Searl Anti-Grav Vehicle

Searl International

SIRC




Cheers!!!!

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It took me ten years to build one and now it's sitting in my garage.

Originally posted by nomadros
I'm building a "something" and have done some very simple experiments which made me have to work out a design for the universe. I'm up to 7 forces instead of 4, the weirdest (and closest to "gravity") appears to be some sort of pseudo ftl effect although nothing actually goes anywhere.

You claim to have done all this? Then I guess you won't mind posting some images and your mathematics?

I'm may still kill off gravity completely as matter may be attracted to regions of space/time rather than other bits of matter, but I normally mull that one over just to annoy myself.

Uhuh, I'm listening. Tell me how you will achieve this!

Oh, there appears to a God because the whole thing seems to be some sort of recording system. I'm staying an aethiest though because I'm not having some hairy ar$ed deity telling me what to do.

Spoken like a true adult!

Gimme a Break!

IRM

Originally posted by mwall614
It took me ten years to build one and now it's sitting in my garage.

Provide some pictures to us mate! A simple task! Surely you have a cell phone with a camera on it?

IRM

Some pics would be nice! Actually I would like to see one set up in an RC type configuration and fly it around with a small compartment that extends and retracts so I can send it to the drive thru at the corner store to pick up my six packs and save me the hassle of driving in the iced up roads!!




Cheers!!!!

I build one in my imagination . The windows are glass made from crushed diamonds and plated with gold. The outer shell , titanium is undercoated with bismuth . All the wiring of course , is gold and platinum , The floors are lodestone tiled , fixtures and counters are platinum and silver. The hydrogen-replenished water fountains flow thru zirconium-lined palladium piping and the outside of the ship glows or not. There is a gentle whirring sound. www.bibliotecapleyades.net... P.S. and yes , melisamouse , those opposing fields of whirling magnets , in perpetual motion , streaming energy .. I can plug the coffee pot into it , every morning.

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