It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by The Bald Champion
Originally posted by Moose Head
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
.
if there werent any opposites...could we have empathy and compassion.....?
YES - one is not dependent on the other.
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
reply to post by Moose Head
HAHAH..I never said I loved Keanu, but I did enjoy the latest movie, because IM a real Sci-Fi geek. To be honest, I think Keanu still belongs with Bill and Ted.
Originally posted by Moose Head
Originally posted by The Bald Champion
Originally posted by Moose Head
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
.
if there werent any opposites...could we have empathy and compassion.....?
YES - one is not dependent on the other.
So than why do we label a feeling........is it to make a distinction...?so that we can know when your expressing empathy and cruelty...now of course im using Keanu Reeves new girlfriends definitions...but you can attribute your own labels and than we can decide why we label feelings...is it to try and describe what were feeling...?...if you say that you have empathy how do we know its empathy?...why do we use words at all.....was that created by the minds that we use or is that real..? if we use words to describe anything for that matter why would we need to categorize anything if its all the same and nothing is dependent of anything else...why not call all feelings emapthy...do we not label to make distinctions and so if you say well i can feel empathy without knowing cruelty or expressing cruelty...than how do we know its emapthy your expressing and not cruelty...?
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
reply to post by Moose Head
Well, I could try to describe my feelings without words, but Im not sure if you can get my physic thoughts. I suppose also, that it's a true statement to say, I can feel empathy because I've experienced cruelty. But I would suspect if I had lived on a deserted island somewhere all my life, and never experienced any outside stimuli, then I could still have empathy for all creatures, because it would be in my heart and mind.
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
reply to post by Moose Head
Well, I could try to describe my feelings without words, but Im not sure if you can get my physic thoughts. I suppose also, that it's a true statement to say, I can feel empathy because I've experienced cruelty. But I would suspect if I had lived on a deserted island somewhere all my life, and never experienced any outside stimuli, then I could still have empathy for all creatures, because it would be in my heart and mind.
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
reply to post by The Bald Champion
Well said, and I certainly agree with the feelings that guide us. I suppose it's like I always say, Karma is a b*tch. If you can live with yourself after calling someone a derogatory name, because of how he or she looks, skin coloring, dress code, then you dont fit in the empathy category.
BTW, I really DONT dig Keanu, just the movie...lol!!!! I'm not one of those "groupie" women, cheese is much more satisfying.
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
reply to post by Moose Head
I suppose you wouldnt know to "call" it empathy, if you didnt know what empathy meant. But you would know you felt kindness, or a love for other things. You would feel drawn, or closer to that person or being, instead of wanting to bash it with a coconut.
Originally posted by The Bald Champion
Originally posted by Moose Head
Originally posted by The Bald Champion
Originally posted by Moose Head
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
.
if there werent any opposites...could we have empathy and compassion.....?
YES - one is not dependent on the other.
So than why do we label a feeling........is it to make a distinction...?so that we can know when your expressing empathy and cruelty...now of course im using Keanu Reeves new girlfriends definitions...but you can attribute your own labels and than we can decide why we label feelings...is it to try and describe what were feeling...?...if you say that you have empathy how do we know its empathy?...why do we use words at all.....was that created by the minds that we use or is that real..? if we use words to describe anything for that matter why would we need to categorize anything if its all the same and nothing is dependent of anything else...why not call all feelings emapthy...do we not label to make distinctions and so if you say well i can feel empathy without knowing cruelty or expressing cruelty...than how do we know its emapthy your expressing and not cruelty...?
I suspect feelings are hard wired in healthy humans while thought is not.
I think mankind is aware of cruelty because it exists in nature. An act of a tree falling
on a poor soul is an act of nature, however such a sight would likely evoke a negative feeling without thought.
We know it is empathy because we can discuss situations that illicit specific feelings and responses. A correlation can be established through verbalization and observation.
The ultimate guide is the feelings that advise us as we live.
PS I think once Keanu goes on his next shoot you will have a good shot...
Originally posted by Moose Head
Originally posted by The Bald Champion
Originally posted by Moose Head
Originally posted by The Bald Champion
Originally posted by Moose Head
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
.
but again......your saying that a healthy human has hard wired feelings....so a person that isnt healthy dosent have hard wired feelings....?...and how do we make that assumption in either case..?...and if one is healthy and one isnt...dosent healthy and unhealthy become direct opposites and dependent on each other...so if you say this person is healthy you must know that somewhere someone is unhealthy..now if we correlate through verbalization and observation...that empathy is empathy...and cruelty is cruelty and happiness is happiness....through certain reactions... than everything is dependent on everything...because if you experience one thing we categorize it as say cruelty...but if you react in another way its empathy...but if we didnt categorize the two to make a distinction by reactions as you say...than all feelings could all just be called cruelty ....
and im not playing second fiddle to Reeves...no way!!!!...lol.
Well I think we could observe a reaction of an individual in a bloody or violent atmosphere and quickly tell if that person suffers from a severe form of sociopathy.
If a child does not react adversely to the visible, audible violent death of its mother
then I think it is safe to suspect sociopathy of some sort.
The ladies who like cheese have character!