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Insanity-Senate bill S. 2433 The global poverty act

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posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 05:03 PM
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This bill, sponsored by none other than Sen. Barack Obama, with the backing of Joe Biden on the Foreign Relations Committee, and liberal democrats in Congress, is nothing short of a massive giveaway of American wealth around the world, and a betrayal of the public trust, because, if passed, this bill would give over many aspects of our sovereignty to the United Nations.

The noble sounding name of this bill, 'The Global Poverty Act' is actually a Global Tax, payable to the United Nations, that will be required of all American taxpayers. If passed in the Senate, the House has already passed it, this bill would require the U.S. to increase our foreign aid by $65 BILLION per year, or $845 BILLION over the next 13 years! That's on top of the billions of dollars in foreign aid we already pay out!

In addition to the economic burdens this potential law would place on our precarious economy, the bill, if passed in the Senate, would also endanger our constitutionally protected rights and freedoms by obligating us to meet certain United Nations mandates.

According to Senator Obama, we should establish these United Nations' goals as benchmarks for U.S. spending. What are they?

* The creation of a U.N. International Criminal Court having the power to try and convict American citizens and soldiers without any protection from the U.S. Constitution.

* A standing United Nations Army forcing U.S. soldiers to serve under U.N. command.

* A Gun Ban on all small arms and light weapons --which would repeal our Second Amendment right to bear arms.

* The ratification of the ' Kyoto ' global warming treaty and numerous other anti-American measures.

Recently, the Senate Subcommittee on Foreign Relations (where Sen. Joe Biden sits) approved this plan by a voice vote without any discussion! Why all the secrecy? If Senators Obama and Biden are so proud of this legislation, then why don't they bring it out into the light of day and let the American people have a look at it instead of hiding it behind closed doors and sneaking it through Congress for late night votes

It may be only a matter of time before this dangerous legislation reaches a floor vote in the full body of the Senate.

www.opencongress.org..." target="_blank" class="postlink">www.opencongress.org...

[edit on 1-12-2008 by asala]



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 05:10 PM
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The REALLY bad news is: We already know what's going to happen if it reaches the Senate. "Roll over! Good dog!!"




posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 05:10 PM
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errr.. yeah, where have you been?

This is one of the many issues why I could not vote for him. Giving one ounce of sovereignty over to that corrupt organization makes me sick to my stomach. Our politicians and businesses are corrupt enough.. the UN makes them look like choir boys.



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 05:16 PM
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Yeah exactly. However, the problem is awareness must be brought to this Bill before it is passed under our noses. I guess if we want to stop this disgusting abuse our Gov't dishes out we need to get involved and contact the clowns in Congress and make it known we do not approve.



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 05:17 PM
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Nobody should be surprised at this, the amount of debt the USA is buried is absolutely staggering, it can NEVER be re-paid, the effect of years of corrupt government,failed bank practices, loss of the manufacturing base and greed has garage sale'd America's economy,now we cannot print the money fast enough,we may soon be burning it to stay warm





[edit on 1-12-2008 by all2human]



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 05:21 PM
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bump

i need to learn a bit more about this bill and i will



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 05:21 PM
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It should be known this Bill has NOT been passed YET. It needs to be stopped for very apparent reasons. Obviously the MSM won't cover this yet you'll hear about the trampled Wal Mart Clerk on every channel every hour.



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 05:34 PM
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Take it all down.... top to bottom.

The most you'll get from your congressman is a letter from his secretary, while he goes and worships goat gods in the woods at night.

[edit on 1-12-2008 by dunwichwitch]



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 05:42 PM
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Here is an excellent link to track the status of legislation.

I've linked S. 2433


This bill was considered in committee which has recommended it be considered by the Senate as a whole. Although it has been placed on a calendar of business, the order in which bills are considered and voted on is determined by the majority party leadership. Keep in mind that sometimes the text of one bill is incorporated into another bill, and in those cases the original bill, as it would appear here, would seem to be abandoned. [Last Updated: Nov 6, 2008]



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 05:45 PM
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For some reason, I am under the impression that all bills not passed by the current Congress are basically null and void once a new Congress is sworn in. That means a new Congress would have to write a new bill in order for it to be considered. Anybody ever hear of this?



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 05:48 PM
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No that is not correct.



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 06:06 PM
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not good.... especially the part where u.s soldiers will be under u.n command..Probaly be perfect for when troops are ordered againts U.S citizens.



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by FX44rice


* The creation of a U.N. International Criminal Court having the power to try and convict American citizens and soldiers without any protection from the U.S. Constitution.

* A standing United Nations Army forcing U.S. soldiers to serve under U.N. command.

* A Gun Ban on all small arms and light weapons --which would repeal our Second Amendment right to bear arms.

* The ratification of the ' Kyoto ' global warming treaty and numerous other anti-American measures.



Maybe I'm missing something here but where exactly in the bill are these recommendations made?



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 07:23 PM
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reply to post by liketoknow
 
Refer to GoalPoster's previous post. He provided a link with comprehensive info on the Bill.



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 07:27 PM
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reply to post by liketoknow
 
Refer to GoalPoster's previous post he added a comprehensive link on the Bill.



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 07:42 PM
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Sounds like the NWO

The UN army draft? Hmmmm, where will you run? where will you hide?
Recently on one of the channels it was mentioned about how many would starve if the U.S.A. couldn't keep it's crop productions up. I have serious doubts other countries would be in the position to help feed the U.S.A.

They also showed on the news about producing some high protein mixture using peanut butter which wasn't called "Plumpy nut" either for $6.00 a bag.

Those poor kids need that so they can grow up to be Muslim rebels?



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 07:49 PM
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This has been discussed in an earlier thread !

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Zindo



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by cpdaman
bump

i need to learn a bit more about this bill and i will


seems this may be a TRICKY situation

as one comment shown on the link goal poster gave us and i quote


S.2433 The Global Poverty Act does not have anything to do with gun control. This bill does not address gun control in any way. As stated in the above answer: Gun control issues are part of the UN Millenium Declaration (not a US authored or approved or agreed upon declaration). If the United States passes our S.2433 bill, it is addressing only the Global Poverty issue of this UN Millenium Declaration. The United States doesn't loose constitutional protections by agreeing to have a plan that is yet to be determined by the President. This bill is not in any way an agreement by the United States to agree to all points of the UN Millennium Declaration. What this bill actually means: "OK United Nations, the United States agrees to address this one portion of your UN Millennium Declaration by agreeing that our President will come up with a plan towards the 2015 timeframe addressing Global Poverty


seems this makes sense but then in response to this another poster quotes the previous poster in the first paragraph and then in the second paragraph is his reply (sorry if this is a bit confusing)


"Gun control issues are part of the UN Millenium Declaration (not a US authored or approved or agreed upon declaration). If the United States passes our S.2433 bill, it is addressing only the Global Poverty issue of this UN Millenium Declaration".



It is my understanding that S.2433 and the UN Millenium Declaration are joined. To participate in the global poverty program requires signing the Millenium Declaration. That being the case, gun control is not far behind. If you find anything to the contrary, please post


so there we have it........the KEY to finding out what this law will do in regards to giving the UN the rights to disarm certain regions along w/ all the other crappola is wether participating in the global poverty program requires signing the millenium Declaration.



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by ZindoDoone
This has been discussed in an earlier thread !

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Zindo


Zindo you have a thread about the Same act but the point of this thread is something that your thread missed.

The possible fact that the U.S may have to sign the UN millenium document in order to participate in the Global policy act and which would therefore allow the UN legal right over the U.S to potentially DIsarm regions (like the U.S.A) and a whole host of other things mentioned at the top of this thread in the first post by the OP.



posted on Dec, 1 2008 @ 08:30 PM
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while trying to dig and find if indeed the U.S.A would need to sign the UN millenium declearation to move forward with the global poverty act i came across another poster who seems to verify that they would. I pulled this of the following board

www.titantalk.com...

and to quote poster named rholland who was the OP


The U.S. would be required to surrender some of its sovereignty over foreign aid by putting it under UN control. The bill would force the U.S. to sign onto the U.N.'s Millennium Declaration, which would commit us not only to "banning small arms and light weapons" but also to adhere to the International Criminal Court Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol


hmm wonder if this could in some way be connected to Biden's weird speech that the world would test Barack Obama and that they would need the help of community leaders to stand with the administration even though at first it may not seem like they are doing the right thing?? hmm....btw biden's name is on this bill




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