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Originally posted by screamo
I don't think gay marriage or straight marriage needs to be pushed on anyone, as individuals we each have a right to decide for ourselves, and each and everyone of these pro-gay/pro-straight organizations is hindering this.
Originally posted by Jim Scott
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by Jim Scott
Good ol Jeff was responsible for the line "separation of church and state," too. While we're at it, let's get rid of that. Ok?
That wouldn't be a good idea. If this had been applied in this case, the Mormon church funding Prop. 8 with money and manpower, we wouldn't be discussing this ridiculous premise.
Well, you already are aware of the separation of church and state arguement about keeping the state out of the church, not the other way around. So, that doesn't apply to the Mormon church involvement. They are, under the separation of church and state doctrine espoused by T.J., quite appropriately involved. However, I digress and am leading you off topic. My apology.
Yeah but it isn't the other way around. You see the separation powers were never intended to keep religion out of politics but out of GOVERNMENT. That means out of the Governments sticking their nose in one way or the other.
Originally posted by theQuest
I did always wonder, why do gays/lesbians think they need to have the marriage recognized by the state/goverment/church?
Originally posted by Jim Scott
“When I started this new thread, it was intended to ask the question "Should we boycott gay businesses?" because the gays were putting so much pressure on supporters of Prop 8. Now they have a musical against Prop 8. If you don't think the gay movement is very very serious about destroying the opposition to Prop 8, I ask you this:”
Originally posted by Jim Scott
“Why are they pressuring the Mormon church?”
Originally posted by Jim Scott
“Why are they listing the pro and anti Prop 8 people and businesses in SFGate online?”
Originally posted by Jim Scott
“Why are they going to be absent from work nationwide on Dec 10? Doesn't that hurt *their* employer, gay or not? Can you imagine, in your wildest dreams, all the heterosexuals taking a day of absence because they are heterosexuals? Do you see the insanity here?”
Originally posted by Jim Scott
“So, if the blacklist is out there for every gay to see in every town in the US, don't you think they will avoid giving their personal business to supporters of Prop 8?”
Originally posted by Jim Scott
“Isn't it reasonable to ask for those who supported Prop 8 by ballot to buy at those businesses that were supporters of Prop 8?”
Originally posted by Jim Scott
“My point is that the gay movement is almost military in their tactics to crush their opposition. They are unrelenting.”
Originally posted by Jim Scott
“My point, therefore, is why shouldn't we supporters of Prop 8 do the same back to them? Why don't we fight for our vote? We voted Prop 8 in, and the opposition from the gay support for Prop 8 wants to destroy our vote.”
Originally posted by Jim Scott
“I say do the same to them. That is my point. Fair is fair, right?”
Originally posted by Victoria 1
I really annoys me when the minority can disrupt and do what they want. If it was the other way around people would be thrown in jail. For example, if a normal, non-gay person pushed an old lady that was gay, that person would be in jail and it would be a hate crime. Since it was a gay person that did that to the poor defensless old woman it wasn't a problem. Why is it only one way? If I had done that to anybody (for gay marriage or not) I would be in jail. As a normal citizen having done that, I'd be in jail. Why is it that these people get away with this stuff? Why is it okay for them? Because they are gay-it makes it okay, well isn't that the same thinking that has them up in arms? People for the most part are stupid and incompitent, things like this prove that true!
Originally posted by ProFiler.DSS
“Jim rather than boycott the queers businesses, try doing what many straight businesses are talking about doing and just flat out refuse to serve gay people. Put a sign in there saying we reserve the right to refuse business to queers, homo's fags, etc and make it as bigoted as possible so that they know what was tolerated by us before is not anymore.”
Originally posted by ProFiler.DSS
“Let them know you don't care one iota what they think of your "hatred" or "bigotry" and that you are so damn sick of being called a racist if you don't like Obama or a bigot if you voted against prop 8 or if you are a Christian, a mormon, or just about anyone that doesn't kiss the gay's ass and agree with them, let them know they ain't the new blacks and they sure as hell ain't the third sex (male, female, gay)”
What, if they succeeded, would happen to you?
Nothing.
I am a proud American and I want my country to be the best in the world. I want my laws to ring with the ideals that all men were created equal. We the American people are free, and we live with liberty. I don't want any of my fellow citizens having to get second-class service from the state. Your ideas, my friend, are weakening the will of this nation and emboldening the resolve of our enemies.
Originally posted by Jim Scott
What, if they succeeded, would happen to you?
Nothing.
I would see the generations of my family taught that sexual perversion is accepted.