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Originally posted by Jim Scott
reply to post by intrepid
Hey, nice photos. Not all the old ways are great, so lets throw out all the old ways and start completely over. Fair enough? Off topic anyway.
Originally posted by Jim Scott
LOL and hey, no fair starring your own stuff......
The U.S. Constitution is the work of several men, directly and indirectly. The three most notable persons whose work influenced the Constitution but who were not involved in its writing are Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and Thomas Paine. The group of men involved in the writing of the Constitution are generally referred to as the "framers".
Jefferson on Homosexuality
Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence, drafted a bill concerning the criminal laws of Virginia in which he directed that the penalty for sodomy should be castration. See Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Andrew A. Lipscomb, ed. (Washington, Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association, 1904) Vol. I, pp.226-27, from Jefferson's "For Proportioning Crimes and Punishments."
Originally posted by Jim Scott
reply to post by intrepid
Hey, nice photos. Not all the old ways are great, so lets throw out all the old ways and start completely over. Fair enough? Off topic anyway.
Originally posted by Jim Scott
Good ol Jeff was responsible for the line "separation of church and state," too. While we're at it, let's get rid of that. Ok?
Originally posted by detachedindividual
reply to post by Jim Scott
Yeah, and the only difference is that one group have been victims of a fascist rule and the others have inflicted that rule on them.
I know which side I am on.
If it harms none, let people live their lives in freedom, equality and liberty.
But mess with peoples rights to equality and you get everything you deserve.
Trust me, Gay businesses survive on their own people. They don't need a bunch of homophobic fascists spending their money to keep them going.
The economy in general, on the other hand, will suffer if the Gay community boycott every business but their own.
Ever heard of "disposable income"? That's something the gay community have in abundance, and the Pro Prop8 folks don't have that resource.
You've alienated the wrong community at the wrong time. And once they realize that they could buy almost everything they need from a gay/gay friendly business and cut off all others, the local economy in areas where there is a high gay population will suffer.
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by Jim Scott
LOL and hey, no fair starring your own stuff......
You can't and I can't. Since you didn't answer I'll help you out there.
The U.S. Constitution is the work of several men, directly and indirectly. The three most notable persons whose work influenced the Constitution but who were not involved in its writing are Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and Thomas Paine. The group of men involved in the writing of the Constitution are generally referred to as the "framers".
wiki.answers.com...
Good ole Jeff was majorly responsible for this? Let's look at that for a second:
Jefferson on Homosexuality
Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence, drafted a bill concerning the criminal laws of Virginia in which he directed that the penalty for sodomy should be castration. See Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Andrew A. Lipscomb, ed. (Washington, Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association, 1904) Vol. I, pp.226-27, from Jefferson's "For Proportioning Crimes and Punishments."
Wow, pretty extreme. Btw, aren't we supposed to be throwing out the old?
Originally posted by Jim Scott
reply to post by intrepid
Hey, nice photos. Not all the old ways are great, so lets throw out all the old ways and start completely over. Fair enough? Off topic anyway.
I'd say YOU are off topic.
[edit on 2-12-2008 by intrepid]
Originally posted by bloodcircle
Originally posted by triplesod
P.s. I'm straight but "breeders" is an absolutely wonderful term for hetero's! Not only because it was picked up by one of America's best bands.
[edit on 1-12-2008 by triplesod]
I disagree, it's obviously not used in an endearing manner, thus it adopts the very same context as the N word. And I take it as such.
If people want tolerance and equality, then adopting the traits of the very people they consider to oppose them, is not going to get anyone anywhere.
Originally posted by Jim Scott
I mean this sincerely...you need help. Talk to someone.
Please, no more ad hominem attacks. Thanks, and lets stay on topic.
Originally posted by maybereal11
Originally posted by Jim Scott
I mean this sincerely...you need help. Talk to someone.
Please, no more ad hominem attacks. Thanks, and lets stay on topic.
Honestly it was not an attack. You are rambling on about doing something before "they" "get to your doorstep" and likening the gay population to Nazis. I genuinely think you are irrationally obsessed with fear of the gay community or something deeper and would do well to sit down and talk to a professional and figure out why you feel so strongly about the issue.
It is a suggestion based on reading your OP and the weak, scattered and nonsensical arguments you have attempted in support of it. It makes me think that there are deeper issues. I feel like debating you is kind of like picking on someone who is not well.
I will leave you with best wishes for finding a more balanced and peacful life. There is no shame in simply talking to a professional. I have done it myself in troubled times.
[edit on 2-12-2008 by maybereal11]
[edit on 2-12-2008 by maybereal11]
it seems like you are boiling in you're own oil now. What did you expect by making a thread like this ? you can't expect of people to share all you're views. You divided people in groups. So instead of starting a rage speech against gay people, you actually made yourself into a target.
congrats
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by Jim Scott
Good ol Jeff was responsible for the line "separation of church and state," too. While we're at it, let's get rid of that. Ok?
That wouldn't be a good idea. If this had been applied in this case, the Mormon church funding Prop. 8 with money and manpower, we wouldn't be discussing this ridiculous premise.