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Tainted cocaine linked to 7 cases of illness

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posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Finn1916
Do they sell their own stuff to get a fix? No, they steal from those around them instead.


That's a massive over-generalisation that doesn't apply to anywhere near all drug users, though.



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by Cadbury

Originally posted by Finn1916
Do they sell their own stuff to get a fix? No, they steal from those around them instead.


That's a massive over-generalisation that doesn't apply to anywhere near all drug users, though.



All drug users? no, of course not, but all junkies? Yes, all junkies are the same. When your need for something is that strong yes, that generalization works.



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Finn1916
All drug users? no, of course not, but all junkies? Yes, all junkies are the same. When your need for something is that strong yes, that generalization works.


As an x-junkie, Sir; I do not agree with you. But nor do I deny that the problem of which you speak does, indeed, exist -- and is a real problem. It's just not as widespread as you claim.



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 12:06 PM
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okay, topic at hand, it seems to me that the idea of coke being used as a terrorist weapon ignores the obvious fact that reliable custom for their narcotics is more advantageous to terrorists than a few junkies dying.

also, you'ld think that if terrorists were going to attack the US they might do it through the afghan heroin rather than the colombian coc aine.

culaill, watch out for glass beads in the doobage, if it's crunchy, run away, just run.



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by pieman
okay, topic at hand, it seems to me that the idea of coke being used as a terrorist weapon ignores the obvious fact that reliable custom for their narcotics is more advantageous to terrorists than a few junkies dying.


I'd say that that would all depend on the objectives of the Terrorists. There's no reason why they couldn't make a profit and kill a lot of people at the same time. Are you aware of how many “successful” people in western society use Cocaine? If you could poison a big enough shipment you could kill millions and millions of people in a single weekend. We're talking Lawyers, Bankers, Businessmen and women and Office workers as well as warehouse and industrial workers; not just "junkies" off the street.

There would be trouble...



also, you'ld think that if terrorists were going to attack the US they might do it through the afghan heroin rather than the colombian coc aine.



Good point. They might, but who could really say for sure?



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 12:24 PM
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good point, they might poison coke to target it at the richer element, but there's two things that rule against this, in my opinion.

first, chances are that everyone in the supply chain will take a little themselves, which means that they are the first to be killed off. screws up delivery in a massive way if you kill your supply chain.

second, the wealthy, generally, pay a higher price and get a better, more quality controlled product.

it just seems an unlikely plan.

[edit on 2/12/08 by pieman]



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 12:40 PM
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I employed a manager who turned out to be a heavy coc aine user, and gained some painful knowledge of the drug and the sub-culture. I'm tolerant of drug use and not an alarmist, but this is about as bad as drugs can get.

Some can use it occassionally, socially. It's a great rush. But a high percentage get hooked. Easier now with crack coc aine, as one can buy small amounts.

It is already a slow acting poison, doing irreperable brain and organ damage, far more than heroin. Nostril linings get burned out, and then alternative ways of ingesting are required. In brute terms, the brain gets scrambled after extended abuse. No upside, as more and more is needed as body tolerance increases.

Once an expensive connossieur drug, prices came down in the 90s as supply increased. Now you don't know who is using it as it has crossed socio-economic boundaries. Rich and poor kid use it in schools.

A coc aine addict start to view everything in only two ways: Does this bring me closer to coke? Does this bring me closer to money to buy more coke?


Mike F



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 12:48 PM
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Very good points. Don't get me wrong, Pieman, I'm not suggesting that I think the plan is likely to happen; rather I was just pointing out the devastating effect on society if someone did plan it and pull it off succesfully. It would kill off alot more people than just the hopeless "street heads." As you pointed out, though, the tainted batches would be noticed a while before they hit the population proper, but if the theories that the terrorists are state sponsored by the West and East have any truth to them (and I beleive that they do), I guess almost anything is possible!



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 12:55 PM
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Darn! You can't even get high safely any mmore!!!

Great post and points about posible elimination of the pper crust people who have a tendency of this drug!



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 01:16 PM
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i've always thought it would be a damn good method of individual assassination, a dealer would be relatively easy to manipulate into being a patsy and the investigation would be likely cut short to avoid scandal.



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 02:02 PM
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drugs can be used to expand your mind. i've had several really interesting and stimulating times using speed, ecstasy, shrooms, etc. i suggest you read some terrence mckenna. if i want to put something up my nose that makes me high then that's my prerogative.



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 02:08 PM
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what exactly does that have to do with the thread.

this is a touchy subject to discuss on ATS and all your doing is adding a post that has included every no-no outlined in the T&C and ads exactly zero to the discussion at hand. do us all a favor and stay on topic.

[edit on 2/12/08 by pieman]



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by Cadbury

Originally posted by Finn1916
Do they sell their own stuff to get a fix? No, they steal from those around them instead.


That's a massive over-generalisation that doesn't apply to anywhere near all drug users, though.



So true.

Many people can use drugs occasionally without resorting to stealing or engaging in any other illegal or irresponsible behavior.

Why can your doc prescribe you millions of different pills to make your head feel better, or you can drink yourself into a stupor, or smoke cigarettes to relieve your stress, but a person isn't allowed to go outside the regularly sanctioned routes, as long as they are responsible about it?



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by Cadbury

Originally posted by Finn1916
All drug users? no, of course not, but all junkies? Yes, all junkies are the same. When your need for something is that strong yes, that generalization works.


As an x-junkie, Sir; I do not agree with you. But nor do I deny that the problem of which you speak does, indeed, exist -- and is a real problem. It's just not as widespread as you claim.



Ok, fair enough. Still, you take a risk with your life everytime you put powder in your nose. Someone just upped the odds. Either legalize and regulate drugs, or face the fact that people are going to die while doing some drugs.



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by chickenshoes

So true.

Many people can use drugs occasionally without resorting to stealing or engaging in any other illegal or irresponsible behavior.

Why can your doc prescribe you millions of different pills to make your head feel better, or you can drink yourself into a stupor, or smoke cigarettes to relieve your stress, but a person isn't allowed to go outside the regularly sanctioned routes, as long as they are responsible about it?



ACtually we were talking about addicts, not occasional party users.

I wouldn't take anyhting doctor prescribed me. They are all in the drug companies pockets. I had a doctor try to get me on pills that with insurance were goingo cost me like 500 dollars a month. You mean to tell me there is not something cheaper? No, doctors are just another pusher, only difference is they are legally protected. Screw em, either legalize and regulate, or get rid of all drugs. Prescription meds can and do cause more harm than some street drugs. We "regulate" prescriptions, why not everything else?

[edit on 12/2/2008 by Finn1916]



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 04:32 PM
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Wow there are some sick and ridiculous posts in here

people getting what they "deserve" and "I hope some celebrities would..."

You ever wonder why the world sucks... it's because some one out there has decided that people like YOU "deserve" what you get too...

LOL maybe lard arses who post on forums all day and don't contribute to society in a more meaningful way deserve a good life threatening infection from the chemicals burning of your processor and other components all day

Problem with asinine statements such as being made is that almost everyone wastes some of their life by the Opinion of others as to what they should be doing with it and who they should be...

Religion or Lifestyle, Dope, TV, Video Games, Sex

We all Dopamine ourselves out that wazoo one way or an other

So...these guys do it with powder, big deal, it's the same thing

At least they get to the point and don't knock on my door Sunday morning to try and convince me to stand up and sit down while chanting for an hr.


LOL how about adrenaline junkies, people starve while rejects go up and down on a roller coaster all day for 150.00 Bucks... weeeeeeeeee, yeah... they are cool too

How about those tards that I see jogging everyday? You know how many of them blow Anuerisms and die? more than Coke heads do probably... but they are healthy lol, particularly during the knee surgery... because that opiate rush isn't addictive to the point of stupidity right?


So... maybe I should wish that someone leaves spike strips or fishing line on jogging trails, some of them don't have insurance and I don't need them in the emergency room after all on my tax dollars

The there are the 40 Million or so Internet porn addicts... Huge Use of your time on Earth guys... Let me assure you, their orgasm Face, sitting in front of a keyboard...looks stupider than your typical person doing a few lines, at least they are engaged in talking to some one who's alive.

What percentage of Americans are Obese? Disgustingly Obese? bet it's higher than the % of life time coke users who get hooked...

We should put Cyanide in Burritos and just give em what they deserve lol... because Hate to say it but, Being Obese will kill you, most coke users only ruin a few years of their lives as these things go before coming of...

Don't get me wrong

I hate Coke

But probably wouldn't mind it at all if it was legal and I could proper chew the leaves and not over dose on some processed crud that has been stomped on by feet of hepatitis ridden workers and then shoved in a donkeys rear end and cut with various odd chemicals and all the rest...

Is it by itself actually terrible?

no, not really

And it's a funny thing, In prohibition people died from drinking moonshine

But legally most people by far drink, beer and wine

So if Coke was legal would coke be a problem or would mostly people make simple drinks and stuff from the leaves? Or LOL Smoke Crack LOL


This is just another case of the War on Drugs killing Innocent people

and if you think it's okay... trust me, there will be some sort of war on you soon enough so you don't feel left out and others will point and say "you deserved it"











[edit on 2-12-2008 by mopusvindictus]



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 04:38 PM
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I wonder if the coc aine came from China...
probably not but it is reminiscent of sheetrock babymilk...



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 04:46 PM
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Their Coke was probably stepped on too much. The government does not want to stop drug use , #1 they'd lose too much money #2 We would run out of actors in Hollywood. Besides, fiends are more easily controlled.



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