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Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by Canadianduder
And I "LOL" at your attitude without having learned any facts about the case.
You have formed an opinion based on nothing, that is foolish.
If the abuse was that bad, then he had recourse to escape it. His own Grandparents for example, the Police, his teachers, his friends. But no, it would seem his initial reaction was to shoot his dad and his dad's friend. A violent reaction, in a violent society.
It remains to be seen just how bad the "abuse" was. A clip round the ear for not doing homework or a smacked arse for being a disobedient little turd is not abuse.
Personally, I would rather wait and see what evidence, if any, comes out about what exactly transpired before forming any cast-iron opinions.
EDIT: Baby P is a single bad example out of thousands of good examples. We could all find a bad apple if we look for one, but it is hardly proof of anything. is it? A couple of Social Workers and a doctor cocked up and a baby died.
Every day, hundreds of kids are well cared for by Social Services and the like, but they don't get a mention do they?
[edit on 30/11/08 by stumason]
Originally posted by RogerT
By the way, your avatar is a 'fighter' jet and your byline is thread-'killer', so yes, my best guess is that violence is in there somewhere.
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Are you a chav? Is there 'violence in there somewhere' too?
Originally posted by Lokey13
reply to post by Merriman Weir
If there is truth to the smacks, this kid could do less then 2 years in juvi. If any sort of abuse is found to be credible; he will be deemed unfit of a stable mind and will be taken under physiciatric evaluation. I think if the story is true the parents got what was coming to them, a thousand smacks would be 1 smack everyday for 3 years, and this year with my own daughter I believe I've only tallied up two.
Originally posted by Canadianduder
That kid was just doing what any man would do.
It's a shame what abuse does to children, and I am glad this child was able to end his.
This kid should be treated as a victim, nothing else.
He even documented the abuse as best he could until he couldn't take it anymore - then he excercised his 2nd amendment right and he took up arms against his attackers, whom he slew in self-defense. God bless him. If this was England, or another disarmed country - he never would have had a chance.
[edit on 30-11-2008 by Canadianduder]
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
I get so sick when I hear people say "Well your child doesn't have to like you... you are their parent not their friend". These same people wonder why peers have more influence than the parents. That's because yes your children do have to like you if you expect them to want to be like you.