It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by semperfortis
Obama is a politician and showed his true colors when he stabbed his friend and mentor, Alice Palmer, in the back politically and basically ruined her career.
After her defeat, Palmer broke her promise to Obama not to run for re-election to her State Senate seat and filed nominating petitions with 1,580 signatures on December 18, 1995—the last day to file nominating petitions. Obama challenged Palmer's hastily gathered nominating petitions and those of the three other prospective candidates. Nearly two-thirds of the signatures on Palmer's nominating petitions were found to be invalid, leaving her almost 200 signatures short of the required 757 signatures of registered voters residing in the Senate district
"That was Chicago politics," said John Kass, a veteran Chicago Tribune columnist. "Knock out your opposition, challenge their petitions, destroy your enemy, right?" Kass said. "It is how Barack Obama destroyed his enemies back in 1996 that conflicts with his message today. He may have gotten his start registering thousands of voters. But in that first race he made sure voters had just one choice."
"He came from Chicago politics," Stewart said. "Politics ain't beanbag as they say in Chicago. You play with your elbows up and you're pretty tough and ruthless when you have to be. Sen. Obama felt that's what was necessary at the time, that's what he did. Does it fit in with the rhetoric now? Perhaps not."
But more than that, Obama brings with him the baggage of Chicago's political culture - the roughest in the US. The small-scale bribes that older Chicagoans remember from visits to City Hall are a thing of the past but the sharp suits, naked ambition and political trading are much the same. So too is the large-scale corruption that has seen 50 elected officials from Illinois jailed over the past 30 years.
Originally posted by semperfortis
The one sure thing that we have learned we can count on, is that politicians lie, cheat and steal. Obama is a politician...
Although the respondents -- including entrepreneur Paul Hawken, Rajendra Pachauri of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, activist Van Jones, and green investing leader Mindy Lubber -- represent a broad range of interests, they were largely in agreement on how best to solve the current economic and environmental challenges. Basically, they agree that weaning the country off fossil fuels and onto renewable sources of energy is the single best way to rebuild the U.S. economy; that Obama must use all the tools at his disposal -- from invoking the Clean Air Act for regulating greenhouse gas emissions to persuading the new Congress to put a price on carbon -- to tackle climate change and spur the move to alternative energy; that under an Obama administration the United States must lead in forging a new global climate change treaty; and that, given the rapidity of global warming, Obama must be made fully aware of the “scary” scientific facts -- as environmentalist Bill McKibben puts it -- and move with a sense of urgency.
[T]he number one submission on the popular "Open for Questions" portion of the site might seem more than a little impolitic to [President Bush]: "Will you appoint a Special Prosecutor -- ideally Patrick Fitzgerald -- to independently investigate the gravest crimes of the Bush Administration, including torture and warrantless wiretapping," wrote Bob Fertik of New York, who runs the Web site, Democrats.com.
Though the Obama team has promised to answer some of the top questions as early as this week, they have not said whether they will respond to Mr. Fertik's, which has received more than 22,000 votes since the second round of the question-and-answer feature began on Dec. 30. The site logged more than 1.5 million votes for 20,000-plus questions... The second highest-ranked submission, which is about oversight of the nation's banking industry, is several thousand of votes behind the query about a special prosecutor. Mr. Fertik's question has been pushed to the top, in part, by a coalition of liberal bloggers...
I have been pondering what to say in response without coping a warn for displaying my anger towards the Global Warming Hoax. Any Carbon Emission scheme is economical unsound, will only serve to penalize people rather then reward them for good environmental practices and further drive up the cost of living.
Eventually the Global Warming fraud will bottom itself out but one thing that won’t go away is all the associated taxes. The awful truth is that a viable alternative to Oil isn’t going to be developed. What can be done and will happen is that technology will be developed that allows Oil to be drilled in areas where it is currently uneconomical to do so.
A smart energy policy for the US or any country for that matter would be to encourage investment in the technology mentioned, build oil refineries, nuclear power plants and make use of solar and wind power where feasible. Any investments in infrastructure including what is mentioned above needs to be done on as per needed basis.
There is no way that either Obama or the Democrat controlled Congress will prosecute Bush. The vote that authorized the invasion of Iraq didn't come solely from Republicans and the Dems would bound to be found to have been complicit in any wrong doings. The only way Bush and co could be prosecuted without the prosecution implicating themselves would be to reenact laws in the style of the war crimes trials of sixty ago.
Although I do not foresee it happening in his first one hundred days the most likely out come is that Obama pardons Bush and Cheney for any crimes they may have committed. All things considered including the need for the US and the rest of the world to move on from Bush incompetence a pardon would be the best outcome.
Originally posted by xpert11
I have been pondering what to say in response without coping a warn for displaying for displaying my anger towards the Global Warming Hoax .
Originally posted by xpert11
Adding to the cost of petrol at the Pump in the US and else where in the world isnt going to make more environmentally friendly alternatives to Oil just magically appear .
Let Bush return to Texas in peace and attempted to revise history when he writes his memoires .
Other wise I'm not seeing any signs of the much vaunted change .
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic...when gasoline is $6-$9 a gallon, as it is in some European countries, people are MUCH more willing to spend the extra $5K to $7K to buy a hybrid (not that I think hybrids are the answer, but they're a step in the right direction). There are far fewer SUVs being driven in European countries...I'd love to see a huge tax on gasoline.
I don't agree that the European model applies to North America. Europe? You drive for an hour, you're in a different country. In town, the roads won't fit our larger vehicles . . Here, I see a SmartCar on the highway and I laugh cuz' you wouldn't catch me in it.
Gasoline taxes are a fair user-pay method, but they shouldn't be a revenue grab [as in Europe]. We are a mobile society and that is determined by the greater scale of our communities. If Obama wants to adapt a European model, then he has to bring back rail, mass transit, and urban intensification. That ain't likely to happen in this term.
I heard a high-level Chrysler Exec. talking about this. He said that when gasoline is $6-$9 a gallon, as it is in some European countries, people are MUCH more willing to spend the extra $5K to $7K to buy a hybrid (not that I think hybrids are the answer, but they're a step in the right direction).
Originally posted by grover
Obama is going to have to raise taxes at some point and it is probably going to have to be a significant increase but due to political considerations he will probably wait until his second term to do it.
Just curious, but what if he cancels those tax cut that Bush awarded the rich? That is certainly a place to start . . I don't see where taxing obscene inheritances is going to harm the national economic recovery, either.
How about simply . . stopping the aggression and supporting the peace processes, instead? Naw . . that's far too much of a stretch . . . Bottom line is that there are better choices than adding to the lower and middle class tax burdens.