Wow! And I used to think that ATS posters tended to be brighter. You should all start by reading this article at the Detroit Free Press:
www.freep.com...
The biggest difference is that the auto industry is trying to make good on the promises they made workers years ago. It isn't just jobs, people.
How many of you know Ford, GM, and Chrysler retirees? I think you have all drunk the oligarchy's kool-aid.
The bankers, on the other hand, want money for the losses incurred by their own unethical practices. Simply put, the bankers are just criminals, the
auto industry wants a BRIDGE loan - something to carry them over the hump
to fulfill pension and healthcare obligations. So, we reward those
who destroy American jobs and benefits and punish those trying to fulfill their obligations. Wow! You all have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker.
Nothing to benefit anyone but the wealthiest.
I've worked in both industries. There is almost no waste in the auto industry of today. They are all cut to the leanest workforce and resources
possible while still sustaining a semi-living wage. Yes, there are the problems of the "eat their young" syndrome, but, heck, that comes from the
fact that the US government has continuously - since the late 1960s - continuously encumbered the domestic car market with unrealistic and when
realistic, expensive, rules and regulations.
As to the person asking about why the international divisions are doing well? They don't have to follow Congressional dictates that have no base in
reality.
Oh, and the reason the F-150, for instance, is a major seller still is not because of anything other than the
necessity for the workhouse
vehicle. F-150s are the beat up truck that keeps running while that Toyota or Honda is for going to church only. It is the American Public that
chose to buy the gas-guzzlers due to the underwriting of Big Oil.
The US pays nowhere near the market price of oil. Even those high prices earlier in the year had more to do with the fluctuation of the dollar on the
world market than it did on anything related to the actual cost of gas. If gasoline prices had kept up with inflation, we would be paying 3 to 4 USD
already. See this chart
(
inflationdata.com...
inflation_chart.htm to understand where gas should be.
Congress owes the auto companies for such atrocities as NAFTA, CAFTA, and creating a very hostile trade environment for all manufacturing. This
hostile environment made the supplier network - that even the Japanese and Germans rely upon - so tenuous that when a manufacturing outsider at
Chrysler tried to play "hardball" with a major plastics supplier he threatened several other auto body makers. (This got him a well-deserved slap
on the wrist. The current CEO of Chrysler is an incompetent slash and burn type - so Chrysler will fail unless he is replaced with someone who
understands the ins and outs of manufacturing.)
Other ways in which Congress has screwed the auto companies included safety mandates with no consideration of costs - while not requiring those same
mandates on foreign imports. Allowing poor wages in the ignorant south. (The same group that continually votes against their own interests by voting
for the same corrupt politicians in both parties.)
The bankers? They created a true ponzi scheme that had no relation ot real wealth and then stole billions of taxpayer dollars. There was a real
solution to that involving eminent domaining their assets and allowing Fannie Mae to administer all confiscated - with minimal renumeration - land and
financial "products."
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