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Originally posted by Sonya610
A lot of people supported McCain because they did NOT like Obama, or because they were die hard republicans (and a lot of republicans did not like McCain).
A lot of people supported Obama because he represents "change" and he is "pc" and he is "ethnic" and yes...he is a good speaker!
Platform? Yes, no more war! Happy times! Hope...change...Hope! Did i mention hope???
This last election was powered on EMOTION!
Fear, love, whatever, but it was 90% about emotion.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
90% emotion and 10% brain. Is this your position? How does this contrast with the hypnotism idea?
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
My point is that all these variables we are talking about are pertinent and applied to both candidates.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
Which is why it's not a fair assumption to think the majority of Obama supporters voted the way they did primarily because they were persuaded by good public speaking.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
As for oratory hypnosis. Yes I am sure he does. This is wholly different then the gravity of hypnosis in a clinical setting. I read NLP books and I have been hypnotized in a clinical setting. Definitely a difference NLP, or whatever it is to be called, is simply a part of the arsenal of public speaking technique, adopted by public speakers at large.
Originally posted by Sonya610
Watch the videos of Hitler, one of the most compelling speakers of the 20th century. Notice the rhythm, the pace, the pauses, the hand gestures!
Now realize, there are cultural differences. Hitler’s speeches were choreographed 70 years ago in a different language. The Germans do prefer it a bit rougher. They like direct, perhaps even harsh terms, whereas Americans prefer the softer approach. Given the cultural differences, and the changes in modern speech, is it possible that President Elect Obama and the Führer had the same speech coach?
Do not judge until you have calmly and carefully watched the videos.
You here today…
Are only a part of what is spread all over Germany.
We want you, my German boys and girls…
To absorb all that we expect of Germany!
We want to be ONE people and you…
My youth, are to be that people.
In the future there must be NO RANKS OR CLASSES…
And you must not let them begin to grow in you…
We want to be one nation and you must educate yourselves…
We want this people to be obedient and you must practice this obedience…
We want this people to be PEACE-LOVING but also courageous!
www.evtv1.com...
We do not want to deceive the people….
Therefore I have refused to step in front just to make promises!
In ourselves alone lies the future of the German people…
If we guide the German people to their own diligence…
To their own decisions…
To their own steadfastness…
Then we will rise again…as did our fathers… who had to create Germany for themselves!
www.evtv1.com...
We don’t have their colonies…
We don’t have the opportunities of international world connections…
Possessed by these states or peoples…
Our Reich, which is so crammed…
And which has so few necessities for life…
Needs to be carefully and thoughtfully cultivated and managed…
We can’t do this without planning!
Dutchland! Seig Heil! Seig Heil!
www.jewtube.com...
That's stupid. What your saying is that anyone who is a good public speaker is only a good public speaker because they have Hitlers speech coach?? Do you not see how ridiculous that is?? It's called oratory and some just have the gift and others do not. Trying to connect people to Hitler just because they give a good political speech is brainless.
[edit on 11-11-2008 by Sonya610]
That's stupid. What your saying is that anyone who is a good public speaker is only a good public speaker because they have Hitlers speech coach?? Do you not see how ridiculous that is?? It's called oratory and some just have the gift and others do not. Trying to connect people to Hitler just because they give a good political speech is brainless.
Originally posted by MOFreemason
reply to post by Holly N.R.A.
I just had to ask that in my previous post, because I always wondered can such a man come to power (Hitler)?
I have always wondered was it the mindset of the then-desperate German or the persuasive oratorical skills of Hitler that led to the Third Reich?
Same question applied to today's Americans...are we just needing/wanting a leader to inspire or is Obama just that good at speaking?
Originally posted by DarthChrisious
Oh, and just to add something else - Obama differs from Hitler's public speaking style in that whenever Hitler would take the stage, he would just stand quietly for 5-10 minutes...not saying anything. It increased the crowd's anticipation and made his message more effective.
Originally posted by DarthChrisious
In America, if somebody tried to do that, we'd start throwing tomatoes at them.