World hopes for a 'less arrogant America'

Obama just won. And i dont think its that americans dont want change....i think they do. But they also wanted it in the 20's, in the 30's, in the 60's, and now....its whether they have the strength and determination to take it or not...and that i DO doubt.

yeah obama rocks my world right now.


im so stoked to see how many people are tired of the presidency weve had for 8 years and wanted something different.

hopefully some good things will start happening

I dont "think" obama will be any different............................................................But i do HOPE!!
at any rate, im sure he'll be much better and less dangerous than Mccain.

Originally posted by pexx421
our "arrogance" won WWII and saved the world from tyranny? Hardly. Our greed helped PUSH WWII as we supplied both sides with weapons, oil, and steel to kill each other. Our "arrogance" helped push tyranny in places like south america, africa, and the middle east, as we install tyrants like the shah, suharto, and pinochet.

Would you rather have a marxist Allende in your hands? spitting on your constitution? violating your rights and property in the name of socialism?

I would take a Pinochet over an Allende (KGB`s puppet) any day of the week.
Pinochet saved Chile from those marxist terrorists and we are grateful towards our american friends for their support in defeating socialism in Chile.

[edit on 5-11-2008 by chileancitizen]

What else could we possibly give.
Absolute insanity.

I think this will be a time for the international community to just have a chance to "chill out" from the Bush era.

But talk of America being the "greatest force" and things like that sort of kill the jubilance the world is feeling for the US right now.

It's time to just sit down, have a beer, and look ahead together.

No more neocons.

Congratulations America! ,you now are 1000 times better with Obama!
Just hope he doesn't get that call at 12 o clock at night



[edit on 5-11-2008 by all2human]

Yeah sure, I feel my IQ going up already...

Good luck hoping world...

Best hope we got is that he approves stem cell research and the Moron percentage can get brain injections before his term is up

Originally posted by SiONiX


It's not the fact who is the president, it is that YOU as a people made the right choice, voted for the smart peaceful young guy with international roots. If you wanna have influence all over the world, then who's better than a international uniting man?

I FEEL SO MUCH BETTER NOW THAN A EUROPEAN GAVE HIS BLESSING TO THIS ELECTION....... IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN OFFICIAL UNLESS THEY APROVE IT.


PD: That was sarcasm

Yes, yes, the world is thrilled that the US now has it's first "post-american president."

I'm sure they expect that life will be much easier now. Peace in the middle east an all that. We can all breathe a sigh of relief, since Iran has nothing to fear from the US any longer, and will quit being so confrontational. They can pursue their peaceful atomic energy program without any harrasment.

The world can rest easier knowing that soon the US will no longer be dictating terms to other countries. Instead of trying to be "world cop," America can look to the EU and Russia for leadership in world affairs. Y'all can show us how to ease racial tensions with our minorities and become a truly multicultural society. No more having to conform---our women who want to can soon wear the burkha in public, without having to fear being forced to conform to western mores.

As we give up our "rugged individualist" attitude, we can pull troops out of world hotspots, where US soldiers seem to stir up so much hatred. Tens of thousands of troops can come home from the border with north Korea. We can save billions on funding to Israel. Maybe we can even disband NATO, and move the UN out of New York, so we quit trying to "run" it.

And without American interventionism, Russia can look to much more serene relations with its neighbors, as can Venzuela, Zimbabwe, and states like Somalia and Myanmar.

No more terrorism either. Just think of it. I guess I'm looking forward to that future as well!

reply to post by dr_strangecraft


Oh that's right! Now that Obama has been elected, there will be no more terrorist strikes on America and Palestine and Israel are going to get along like old buds. People's mortgages are going to be paid for and their tanks will magically fill up with gas, too. How could we have EVER doubted the Messiah?

I've always said that I couldn't care what the rest of the world thinks as far as how they see the U.S. If they don't like us they can go F**K themselves.

Obama being elected has just turned this country into an easy target. Al Qaida and Hamas are also celebrating his election to office and you can bet they have plans in the works to take advantage of his "let's talk this out" attitude.

reply to post by sos37

I can see where you are coming from but perhaps there is just a "chance" that something will change. Maybe just a little....

Originally posted by calihan123
I understand what your saying, and I cant speak on other people's parts, but I do my part in helping. I know I do as much as I can to try and help people here in this country, as well as other ones. And I know theres many people in this country just like me. But how many countries do you see donating things to america? Coming over here to build homes for the homeless?

think about it for a minute and get back to me.

The UK donated huge amounts of relief supplies (including thousands of tons of food, tents etc) during Katrina, sent warships to help with the relief effort itself and carried out airlifts.

Such things don't get mentioned in the US media much, which is where a lot of problems with America stem from.

A lack of awareness and education.

Some reactions from around the world:

www.chinadaily.com.cn...

Like American people on the other side of the Pacific, we are excited, too, at the landslide win of Democrat Barack Obama, who will become the 44th President of the United States of America on January 20 next year.

We wish him all the best in bringing America out of the present financial quagmire as soon as possible, and re-energize the world's largest economy with his brand-new ideas and vision. A strong US economy is in the interest of China and all other countries that trade with it.

We also hope the good momentum of a relatively amicable and constructive bilateral relationship between China and the US will sustain and extend during the incoming four years of the Obama presidency.

Running on promises to deliver pivotal "changes" which America crucially needs, President-elect Obama and his incoming administration face daunting challenges: to plug the loopholes of a precarious Wall Street financial system, rebuild a solid footing for a backsliding economy, to re-charter an American foreign policy that will move away from pre-emptive doctrine to one of resolving nation-to-nation disputes on the table, and to embrace more consultation on the world arena while avoiding confrontations.

We have every reason to anticipate a more cooperative and talk-savvy new America, that contributes to the United Nations efforts in settling varied disputes, that leads in a renewed approach to deliver new wealth for the Earth's inhabitants, that protects the environment and develops new and clean energies, that spearheads new and high technology innovations, and, that always upholds peace and economic growth.

www.ft.com...

Gerald Ford’s words to the nation when he took over the US presidency from Richard Nixon at the height of the Watergate scandal – “The long nightmare is over” – will probably not be spoken by the winner of the US election. But they will be on the lips of millions around the world.

The presidency of George W. Bush has been traumatic for everyone, American or not, who believes that the human species can only solve the problems facing it in the 21st century by collective action, and by adhering to a multilateral system in which all are bound by the same rules. So traumatic that there is a temptation to blame all difficulties on the Bush administration, and to assume that once it comes to an end those difficulties will vanish.

watchingamerica.com...

an Egyptian diplomat confirmed that the results of the U.S. elections will not drastically affect its policy toward the Middle East cases, pointing out that the American institutions control the determination of these policies according to their interests despite the different readings of Obama and McCain for the course of events.

The Kuwait News Agency said that: Egypt's former ambassador to the United States, Nabil Fahmy, described the current elections as "historic" because it is the first time that the elected President would be of African origin or that a woman would be a Vice-President, while in case of McCain would win he will be biggest U.S.-heads in age.

Fahmy said, in his speech at a conference organized by the Center of Studies at the American University in Cairo yesterday, about the American elections: that McCain’s look for the future will be determined on the basis of his previous experience; especially that he had been captured during his service in Vietnam also his political experience is better than Obama, while the latter’s experience is based on his political Cooperation with the international community.

He added,relations between Egypt and the United States are governed by close relations and that it will not be directly affected by the outcome of the elections, especially that Egypt has a great and clear role in the progress of the peace process in the region.

watchingamerica.com...

"I congratulate senator Barack Obama for his victory. That America is getting its first African-American president is a historic event. I am looking forward to a good and close relationship with America's new president and his administration", said Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg.

This is the first comment from Norwegian prime minister Jens Stoltenberg after Barack Obama was elected the next president of the United States.

Jens Stoltenberg was impressed by the campaigns of both Barack Obama and John McCain.

"It has been an exciting election with an impressive mobilization of new voters. Both sides can be proud of the work done to motivate people to exercise their right to vote", stated a press release from the prime minister's office.

He also pointed to the challenges to be faced by the new president. They concern poverty, peace and security, climate and the financial crisis.

"We are expecting the United States to exhibit international leadership on important matters, based on dialogue and cooperation.

All of these and so many more can be found at:
watchingamerica.com...

And it is a lot to chew on. We need to expand our vision to the world outside our borders and try and understand how our actions, good and bad are seen by the world and how they effect it.

Like it or not The United States is not at the center of every map in the world and our planet does not revolve around it...

... still we have an impact and we need to start being cognisant of it.

"We are expecting the United States to exhibit international leadership on important matters, based on dialogue and cooperation."

Nice sentiment.

Not too realistic.

That quote works on the assumption that Americas "leadership" has the ability to lead. As an American, I can tell you that is a shaky proposition at best.
They've led us in one extreme direction that we don't want to go in and then turned around and led us in another, again and again for decades. They have ignored what the citizens want all of the way.
The problem is that we don't actually get to choose who WE the PEOPLE want. We get to chose the lesser of 2 evils that They, the SYSTEM present for us.
I don't think you really know what you are asking for when you expect leadership from our politicians. They have done a disastrous job with us and Obama is only another side of the two party coin.
Please don't depend on our leaders. We sure can't.

reply to post by Wolfie_UK
Good post Wolfie and how true.

Cracked bells make the most noise.

fyi: I watched the BBC to get the real gist of how the rest of the world sees us and what is going on. Our news media has arse kissed the Bush Administration these last 8 years to the point of most of our information is nothing more then a large propaganda machine for manipulating American minds to support the very institutions that are screwing them over.

For the last eight years America has been ran like a "run for profit Corporation" at the expense of the "little people", hopefully Obama will truely work for the American People and not Corporate America.

Obama has a lot of cleaning up Bush's mess to deal with but at least he is not a arrogant moron.




[edit on 5-11-2008 by ofhumandescent]

I am really surprised at the number of posts on this thread that take the screw the rest of the world and what they think of us attitude.

The good will of the rest of the world and our behaving like a decent citizen of it is a far stronger antidote to terrorism than macho swaggering and belligerence.

America is already starting to be seen as less arrogant. Here is a clip from news today


PARIS – Barack Obama's election as America's first black president unleashed a renewed love for the United States after years of dwindling goodwill, and many said Wednesday that U.S. voters had blazed a trail that minorities elsewhere could follow.

People across Africa stayed up all night or woke before dawn to watch U.S. history being made, while the president of Kenya — where Obama's father was born — declared a public holiday.

In Indonesia, where Obama lived as child, hundreds of students at his former elementary school erupted in cheers when he was declared winner and poured into the courtyard where they hugged each other, danced in the rain and chanted "Obama! Obama!"

"Your victory has demonstrated that no person anywhere in the world should not dare to dream of wanting to change the world for a better place," South Africa's first black president, Nelson Mandela, said in a letter of congratulations to Obama.

Many expressed amazement and satisfaction that the United States could overcome centuries of racial strife and elect an African-American as president.

This honestly brings tears to my eyes. America really does impact the world with our choices. I hope we can make some better choices in the future and keep this up.

I stayed up late last night / this morning and watched the news over here in the UK, watched some more today, and unless it is just our media's way of reporting one thing stuck out.

The majority of the interviews with the American public (well at least the ones I saw) were held with black Americans and all interviewed were estatic that Obama had won, fair enough the guy you voted for has won and so be happy.

BUT the reason for the happiness was because a black American had been voted in, it seemed to me at least that their votes had been based on colour first and creating American history second................politics got the bronze.

Does anyone else think that or am I way off he mark ????

Finally before you try to put a racist slant on my post then be aware that my neighbour is Indian and we get on very well thank you, in fact we gossip like two housewives nearly everyday.

Wolfie