The politics of Fear MUST STOP

Its getting ridiculous...

First...

Lets say Obama is from Kenya, that'll rattle em all up... Whoops, Barack actually has something called a birth certificate, there goes that idea. Well WE shall still insinuate it for those ignorant enough to not do their research and keep it off Fox Noise.


Then lets say hes a Muslim. Cause ya know, all Muslims are bad right. Didnt you know that? Yep, cause 19 crazy people who took the Muslim faith and used it to kill 3,000 civilians thus makes all Muslims dangerous. Duh.
Wait? He's not Muslim? Oh yea, we attacked him for attending Rev. Jeremiah Wright all those years. and that wasn't a Muslim church. Oops, well we can cover our tracks and say Obama believes in everything Wright does. Again, lets pander to those not willing to do the research.

Next, we insinuate hes a socialist. Yea, that'll work. I mean, hell, he is a democrat after all. We've successfully been proving they are socialists one by one. Why not attack the top democrat of the land. Wait, whoops, one of MCCain's plans calls for a bigger government to buy back homes from owners who got in over their head. One of the biggest socialist ideas to come from a repub in a while. Not to mention the fact that Bush has tripled the size of the Us Gov in his 8 years. Damn. Well, this argument should still work because we can just ignore the two facts above and still say, 'democrat equals a Red Commie'.

Of course we could always say Obama will try and take away everyone's guns. Yea, that'll work. It will appeal to the gun owners of the world. WE get NRA to spray some not so good half truths and stir enough FEAR and people will have no choice but to for republican. Because, they of course have been the only ones to defend the 2nd ammendment... Whoops... See Kennedy vote...... Well ,thats ok, as long as the NRA backs this tactic, we will win.



Hmm, if those all dont work, we of course have this: Obama pals around with terrorists. Now we gotta word this one correctly. Cause, after all, McCain has dinner functions with Obama, shares a stage with Obama, and calls Obama a good man. If he were a real terrorist sympathizer, we'd have to call for his execution. Heck, Saddam was called a terrorist sympathizer, and we got rid of that guy. Hmm, toughy there. Oh I know!!! Let the VP nom do all the hatchet jobs, this way McCain wont look like the mean guy. After all , we have no proof but the fact that he was 8 and knew someone who was involved in domestic affairs. This one might work boys. Lets go with it, true or not. Fear will be instilled on this one for sure.


And if all else fails.... Well our enemies want him elected. Yea, that'll rial em up. Of course... ''Hey Karl, how come we didn't think about this one earlier man???'' Perfect. Tell the people Iran wants Obama and they'll never want to elect him. After all, we can now say Obama is friends with Iran, who'd want to elect him now???

Perfect...... Excellent.

[edit on 23-10-2008 by bknapple32]

With a little less than 2 weeks to go, McCain's campaign is probably trying to cook up a last minute whopper, considering their stance in the polls. It's sad that the fear game actually works on a lot of people. Hopefully Obama can keep his lead, and McCain will have to walk away with his tail between his legs.

reply to post by Curious_Agnostic


Hopefully, both mccain and obama have a good team to put down any false rumors. Yea im an obama supporter but im not blind. Both sides are capable of this at any moment. More so McCain lately, but Im keeping an eye out for both candidates. If Obama pulls a SWIFTBOAT MOVE, i will not vote for him.

Perhaps no one is interested in this because we all know we are guilty of it?

scary that no one seems to care.....

One of the definitions of "Terrorist" is someone who governs via intimidation. Considering the Cons have been blackmailing opponents with terms like "anti-american" for years, I would think this constitutes intimidation.

Otherwise, the Cons won't stop. Their power base is being impacted, if Obama wins they will implode. They will be getting more desperate to maintain soon. Wouldn't doubt if they got even more blatant with everything as hubris mixes with panic. As part of it they have the Christian fundies freaked out over end of days propaganda to try and win this. In all probability we will see riots at least on election day.

Somewhere it was said"ye shall know them by their fruits" All the falderall that has gone on during this election year is pure tripe.All one must do is look to the voting record of both candidates and make your choice.
Animal rights/abortion rights/raise taxes. or Second amendment rights/right to life/lower taxes.All one must do is look to who supports what issues and vote.Make up your own mind,which is best for you and your country and VOTE!

Stop quibbling

Let me ask this...

1. Did Obama know Ayers well ? Yes
2. Did he know Reverend Wright well Yes
3. Did he party with Kalid Mohamed Yes
4. Was he at a party with Kaddafi Yes
5. Was he friends with Farakahn Yes
6. Does he want to spread the wealth around (Socialism)? Yes
7. Is he upset that the Constitution interferes with government action? Yes
9. Does he want to tax small business? Yes
10. Will he sit and talk with the leader of Iran without conditions? Yes
11. Will he demand a Palistinian state? Yes

I rest my case...

1. Did Obama know Ayers well ? Yes
--So does the entire Chicago area board of education.

2. Did he know Reverend Wright well Yes
--McCain has his whacky priest, Palin is a psychotic religious nut herself who supports abortion clinic bombers (refused to call them terrorists).

3. Did he party with Kalid Mohamed Yes
--Dont care.
4. Was he at a party with Kaddafi Yes
--Which Kaddafi?
5. Was he friends with Farakahn Yes
--So? Are we to infer from this you are racist and feel this impugnes him in some way?

6. Does he want to spread the wealth around (Socialism)? Yes
--Blatant lie.

7. Is he upset that the Constitution interferes with government action? Yes
--Blatant lie. Your far right is destroying the constition to get more government activity. Hypocrit.

9. Does he want to tax small business? Yes
--He wants to tax incomes over X amount. This affects small business. He also wants to give tax breaks to middle america. This affects me. You can suck it.

10. Will he sit and talk with the leader of Iran without conditions? Yes
--This is a good thing. Talk leads to understanding of motivations. It allows on to understand how to stop things. You are obviously an idiot if you think this is bad.

11. Will he demand a Palistinian state? Yes
Why shouldn't there be a Palistinian state?


Mccan:

Was he aprt of the financial scandal where it was shown he was on the payroll of someone scamming the US, by the name of Keating? Yes.

Did McCains preacher call the Catholics a Great Whore? Yes

Did McCains Preacher say Nazi's followed Gods will? Yes

Would the McCain of 10 years ago be proud of McCain of today? No.

Is McCain and Palin representative of a grotesque horror in American sellout politics hell bent on personal gain instead of leading the nation? certainly.

Why do you hate America and the Consitution so much you would post your drivel in response to a forum post on propaganda?

When I first saw the title of this post I thought it was going to be about stopping the politics of fear from both sides. How disappointing it is to see yet another one sided post.


So in an effort to even things up....

Obama has it good. While Mccain may have the "pitbull" to deliver the "fear". Obama has the entire MSM and the best part is he can stay separated from them without being accused of fear tactics.

Although he does go on and on and on about another 4 years of bush. If that is not fear I don't know what is.

Originally posted by PowerSlave
When I first saw the title of this post I thought it was going to be about stopping the politics of fear from both sides. How disappointing it is to see yet another one sided post.


So in an effort to even things up....

Obama has it good. While Mccain may have the "pitbull" to deliver the "fear". Obama has the entire MSM and the best part is he can stay separated from them without being accused of fear tactics.

Although he does go on and on and on about another 4 years of bush. If that is not fear I don't know what is.

Obama has the support of MSM after a long long time of having lies spewed at him. This shows they finally started seeing McCain's campaign for what it is. Fox is even balking at some of the claims such as "Obama being in office means the death of israel" whatever that is supposed to mean.

What "fear' is being spread about McCain by any media outlet pray tell? How is ANYTHING that is being said about McCain the same as people screaming "Kill him" and "terrorist" at McCain/Palin rallies?

reply to post by lordtyp0


For the record I am not american and if i was i would be independant. I wouldn't vote for either one.

Pray tell...

You need to even ask? Your "kill him" comment, I believe has been debunked. A perfect example of what I am talking about as media attacking for Obama. This was made up by someone in the media.

5. Was he friends with Farakahn Yes

--So? Are we to infer from this you are racist and feel this impugnes him in some way?

Oh great you played the race card......... end of discussion

Originally posted by PowerSlave
reply to post by lordtyp0

 

For the record I am not american and if i was i would be independant. I wouldn't vote for either one.

Pray tell...

You need to even ask? Your "kill him" comment, I believe has been debunked. A perfect example of what I am talking about as media attacking for Obama. This was made up by someone in the media.

5. Was he friends with Farakahn Yes

--So? Are we to infer from this you are racist and feel this impugnes him in some way?

Oh great you played the race card......... end of discussion

actually made me laugh there

When was it debunked? Can you not listen?



As for invoking race.. there something wrong with calling something what it is? What relevance did Farakhan have in anything? He isnt classified as a terrorist by any organization. Never linked to anything criminal per se (allegations of Malcolm X, but we are talking provable allegations here).

Please give me a link showing the "kill him" as debunked.

reply to post by lordtyp0


Were that we all would be responsible for comments made by others.What a utopian society we would be. How anyone could blame a speaker for what some idiot yells out of the crowd is beyond me. These types of actions have been refuted and openly taken to task by the McCain campagin.Has there been such repass from the Obama campagin when epithets and slurs were uttered towards McCain?

Originally posted by daddyroo45
reply to post by lordtyp0

 

Were that we all would be responsible for comments made by others.What a utopian society we would be. How anyone could blame a speaker for what some idiot yells out of the crowd is beyond me. These types of actions have been refuted and openly taken to task by the McCain campagin.Has there been such repass from the Obama campagin when epithets and slurs were uttered towards McCain?

Negative. McCain at several points refused to chastise the whackos in the audience. Only on ONE occasion has it been seen. "No mam he is not an Arab he is a decent man.." sound familiar?

Otherwise, please supply one of these epithet and/slurs for examination. I would like to compare it to: "Kill him." "terrorist" "traitor".

The following video has some reference to this.. funny enough. It is an admitted political commentator (not news source) though.


[edit on 28-10-2008 by lordtyp0]

reply to post by lordtyp0


Sorry but I just did a quick search and this was the first one i found. Feel free to look for yourself if you like

Did anyone really yell "Kill him"?

The Secret Service has investigated reports that supporters at two of Sarah Palin's rallies yelled "Kill him!" in reference to Barack Obama and has concluded that both reports were unfounded.

The first alleged incident, which occurred in Clearwater, Fla., was brought to public attention by the Washington Post's Dana Milbank. In that case, the Secret Service says, its agents listened to tapes of the rally and heard "tell him" or "tell them" but not "kill him." The latest report came from the Scranton Times-Tribune's David Singleton; agents tasked to investigate could not find anyone other than Singleton who heard the shout.

There have still been plenty of other nasty things about Obama shouted at McCain-Palin events, but the Secret Service takes this sort of thing very, very seriously. If it says it doesn't think anyone shouted "kill him," it's a good bet that it didn't happen.

Sorry if these instances are different than the one you mentioned. But these are the only ones I have heard of.

Anyway its irrelevant, it was not said by mccain or palin anyway.

Originally posted by PowerSlave
reply to post by lordtyp0

 

Sorry but I just did a quick search and this was the first one i found. Feel free to look for yourself if you like

Did anyone really yell "Kill him"?

The Secret Service has investigated reports that supporters at two of Sarah Palin's rallies yelled "Kill him!" in reference to Barack Obama and has concluded that both reports were unfounded.

The first alleged incident, which occurred in Clearwater, Fla., was brought to public attention by the Washington Post's Dana Milbank. In that case, the Secret Service says, its agents listened to tapes of the rally and heard "tell him" or "tell them" but not "kill him." The latest report came from the Scranton Times-Tribune's David Singleton; agents tasked to investigate could not find anyone other than Singleton who heard the shout.

There have still been plenty of other nasty things about Obama shouted at McCain-Palin events, but the Secret Service takes this sort of thing very, very seriously. If it says it doesn't think anyone shouted "kill him," it's a good bet that it didn't happen.

Sorry if these instances are different than the one you mentioned. But these are the only ones I have heard of.

Anyway its irrelevant, it was not said by mccain or palin anyway.

Though you did not include the URL of the source, instead a cut and paste. (I did find similar on salon.com). Thus, I will concede "kill him" is out. What is your response to "Terrorist" and "traitor"?

(edit part)

I disagree on the irrelvant thing, This thread is about hate rhetoric in the campaigns. Not if a candidate is linked to what is said.

[edit on 28-10-2008 by lordtyp0]

reply to post by PowerSlave


so you have a cut and paste from some reporter.... yet we have video proof?


and you wanted this to be fair and balanced???

reply to post by bknapple32


I watched that video several times and cannot hear what you guys are claiming. Sorry.

I disagree on the irrelvant thing, This thread is about hate rhetoric in the campaigns. Not if a candidate is linked to what is said.

Err you said yourself as stated above "hate rhetoric in the campaigns". In the campaigns means to me within the campaign. The supporters are not in the campaign, they are at the rallies.

Besides the OP mentioned only one name I could see in the first post. "Karl" I assume he meant Rove. That would be someone in the campaign.

so you have a cut and paste from some reporter....

Sorry if they disagree with your point of view. But that is not my fault.

Just do a search, there are at least 100 different stories about this all quoting the secret service as I posted above.

Yeah, fair and balanced.


You should have named the thread the politics of fear must stop from the republican party. (but its ok from the dems!)

reply to post by PowerSlave


I dont see much politics of fear coming from the dems though... can you list some?