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Are 401 k's safe?

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posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 01:58 PM
After trying to retrieve part of my 401 k 3 months ago it took Fidelity 2 months before they actually gave me the cash.

What if there is a run on the 401k's-these companies only carry so much reserve,much like banks.Will you be able to recover any or all of it? And by the time you get it will the dollar be worth anything? If you allow it to stay will it just disappear into a black hole?

Anybody else having trouble getting access to their funds?

posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 02:01 PM
um . . . no.

This might help

posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 02:11 PM
reply to post by GoalPoster

Your 401k is not insured by FDIC and even if it was FDIC funds can in no way cover all the withdrawals.

If you transfer it to a money market do you trust the dollar to hold its value for long?

The best option IMO is to get it out and use it to buy any commodity that will continue to have real value and will most likely increase in value(i.e. gold,silver,oil,food,generators,weapons).

posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 02:20 PM
In short, no.

401K's are group investment in the stock market, securities, etc.

My wife's financial adviser for her 401K convinced her to place the bulk of her portfolio in the NASDAQ back in the late 90's. Before it tanked and just about wiped her out.

I tried to talk her out of it as I had my distributions pretty much scattered around, with about a quarter of my money in foreign markets, so I hardly felt a whiff when the high tech stocks hit the skids.

The idea of the foreign market approach was that it added a little buffer when the US market had the hiccups.

Today, we're seeing ALL the markets freaking out so that buffer is worthless.

posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 02:28 PM
reply to post by seabisquit

you need to refine your question... Are 401k's Safe ?

yes a 401 k will continue to exist...because no matter what the declining value is --- the management fee is still deducted from your balance before anything else is calibrated.

will a 401k be a safe, & money growing use of your savings?
Nope, its not designed to be.
~unless~ your 401k was in a fund specializing in downturns like some 'bear' funds specialize in.
A 'bear' fund bets that stocks lose value---
you sure haven't been hearing about those funds lately...have you.??

(this page shows the tickers & returns for some major 'bear' funds)
if your so inclined to switch a portion of your 401k into one of them

posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 02:34 PM

Originally posted by St Udio
reply to post by seabisquit

A 'bear' fund bets that stocks lose value---
you sure haven't been hearing about those funds lately...have you.??

posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 02:35 PM
reply to post by St Udio

Shorts have been suspended ;if you have been keeping up with the news you would have known that.

Yes, maybe I should have titled this thread can you get your 401k out when you want to. If i had a problem 3 months ago what do you think it is like now to withdraw your money?

[edit on 10-10-2008 by seabisquit]

posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 02:39 PM
I would say no, they arent very safe. You will lose money in them. My mother just lost $9000 today on her 401k, and she's been putting into it since i'd say the late 80's....Shes an RN that makes roughly $35 an hour, working 60 hrs a week, so every year she puts a thousand or so into it. And to have $9000 of her hard earned money taken away from her b/c of this recession is ridiculous! Its robbery to the core!

So hell no, 401k's are not safe.

posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 03:13 PM
It's only as safe as the stocks you are picking. Ask the Enron folks about that.

Seriously, if you have diversified your assets, your taking a much lesser hit than someone focused on one stock. If you are using a bond fund, chances are, you are at least still breaking even.

Up to a couple of weeks ago, my losses were very manageable. I have money overseas in Europe and Chinese markets. Everything is melting now and I have lost about 22%. I will kick money back into the American market when things improve to where I feel comfortable as America will recover before the others.

Read about every option you are offered and make a plan. You are responsible for your own money. Good luck...

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