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Bail out plan filled with pork (451 pages)

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posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 07:34 AM

Bail out plan filled with pork (451 pages)

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Huge Senate PorkBarrel in Bailout Bill now (451 pages)

New Tax earmarks in Bailout bill -

Film and Television Productions (Sec. 502) -
Wooden Arrows designed for use by children (Sec. 503) -
Earmarks for litigants in 1989 Exxon Valdez incident, Alaska (Sec. 504)
Tax earmark “extenders” in the bailout bill. -
Virgin Island and Puerto Rican Rum (Section 308) -
American Samoa (Sec. 309) -
Mine Rescue Teams (Sec. 310) -
Mine Safety Equipment (Sec. 311) -
Domestic Production Activities in Puerto Rico (Sec. 312) -
Indian Tribes (Sec. 314, 315) -
Railroads (Sec. 316) -
Auto Racing Tracks (317) -
District of Columbia (Sec. 322) -
Wool Research (Sec. 325)

Let’s see, 451-pages. What are the chances any clown in congress has actually read the thing? The vote begins tonight at 730p ET.
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 07:34 AM
Although I our economy needs to do something about this mess, this bail out plan is filled with pork! How does wooden arrows or wool and all the other "pork" have anything to do with the bail out? On fox news, I heard that they added $100 billion (of pork) to the already $700 billion. Can anybody find the source for that?
What does everybody think?
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 07:44 AM
I'll vote for it but you gotta do something for me.
that's what this is all about

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 08:11 AM
So the real issue is NOT actually taking care of our economic problems, just pat my back and I'll pat yours. Their goal is to line their own pockets when our economy is going down the drain. How sick is our administration!!!!

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 08:14 AM
How can you deny CHILDREN their precious WOODEN ARROWS??? And there is a great injustice in the Heartland of America, because there are just not enough AUTO EFFING RACING TRACKS to sustain our needy yokels. If Jeff Gordon can't race in EVERY SINGLE hamlet where a racing fan exists.... well then this just ain't America. And thank GOD somebody in goernment has finally heard and cares about the plight of Samoans.

Buuut the pork spending on Natives is still for scalping and forcibly converting them to Western culture. Oh you crazy government! Some things never change! *a hardy laugh ensues with a silk robe and a corn cob pipe*

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 08:15 AM
Who the hell paperclipped "Wool Research" onto the bill as a rider?!

This is a pretty ridiculous bill. They've clearly bribed the 20 or so voters that they need to pass it with more pork than they can eat in a lifetime.

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 08:15 AM

Originally posted by slouden
Their goal is to line their own pockets when our economy is going down the drain. How sick is our administration!!!!

You're blaming the Administration for earmarks?? You might want to step back and put the blame at the feet of our representatives and senators where it belongs.

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 08:19 AM
Oh yeah and I forgot about the damn wool problem. *snip*. Why's this wool so 20th century? Why isn't this wool doing its own laundry? *snip*, get the wool research together, you lazy government scientists who will for surely now be devoting thousands and thousands of strenuous hours improving the nation's...ehem... wool.

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[edit on 2/10/2008 by Badge01]

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 08:21 AM
reply to post by BlueTriangle

The blame lies squarely with moronic voters, who demand earmarks from their representatives.

Without demand from their constituents, why would representatives ask for earmarks for crap like wool research or wooden arrows?

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 08:24 AM
Technically, tax breaks are not the same as earmarks. So I think that premise is wrong.

But it is clear the Bill contains a lot of 'favors' catering to the narrow interests of certain constituencies.

I'm also surprised more people haven't mentioned the pieces that make permanent some of the National Security interest powers granted to the government or the mandate that requires insurance companies to offer mental-health coverage.

[edit on 2-10-2008 by loam]

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 09:13 AM
Maybe the wool research has something to do with how to better pull it over our eyes?

I'm just sayin' . . .

[edit on 2/10/2008 by xxpigxx]

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 09:34 AM
What can be accomplished?

It has been said that the American people are quietly succumbing to the winds of propaganda regarding this tragic departure from a Constitutional Republic towards a Corporate Fascist state.

It has been pointed out that the tools used to accomplished this complacent acquiescence to the change is the result of exposure to lies, and half-truths, as well as a consistent misinterpretation of the facts and consequences around us.

Our preoccupation with the celebrity politician game show in which we become quadrennially involved, seems to have effectively drawn our minds from the exposition of truth, to the 'sale' of political 'change' which instead of veering our national direction in a different direction, has committed us to plunge deeper into a governmental model that usurps the people's will at the behest of the transnational banking regime. The demand for 'oversight' was satisfied, we are informed, by Congressional 'hindsight' by parties undisclosed, with powers over nothing, and membership controlled by those enjoying the new freedom to do as they will.

Clearly we can see the tools in use. For they have revealed themselves in blatant fashion. The media was brought to bear, and is now pumping America full of soundbites and emotional contrivances. Taking the sale to the next level.

The 'bail-out' has become a 'rescue'.
The defeat of the bill, became a failure to achieve consensus.
The rejection of the action, has become a reflection of our 'inability to come together'.
The trials of the future for those manipulating the free market, have become a 'catastrophe' we must avert.
Political leaders, having neither the knowledge, nor the inclination to seek it out, have become the 'front-men' for the sales effort.

Those who stand to suffer the consequences of outrageous financial excesses, through 'make-believe' accounting and 'derivative' crystal ball investment, are too vital to the politicians very existence to come to pass.

The new 'first citizen' of the US is now the Bank. They created a problem, and the solution is to let them have total control, through cronies in the Congressionally accountable Treasury Department, by making them 'unaccountable.' An illusion of of status quo has been reinforced by those who yield to the winds of 'financial' arses.

In time, should the Congress fail to protect the Constitution, as the Senate just did, this will forever be the moment in history when one can look back and rightly proclaim, "This was the day the music died." American's Constitutional form was nullified by the will of the financial masters of those who 'bought in' to their game of chance.

There is a time and a place for all things, it is often quoted. Our Congressional leaders, through contrivance, or genuine respect for their constituencies rejected the effort. Now the 'senior' and more politically 'revered' Senators have "found a way" to sell it to the masses and the game is afoot. The next hours will mark the point of capitulation for any congressional representative who wishes the blessings of good-will from the party, which makes and breaks their careers at their convenience.

As Americans, we must utterly reject or sinfully accept that this is as it should be. Our own country, by political and financial machinations, is being taken from us; for as the Constitution goes, so does the Nation. Oaths to defend the Constitution have become as laughably insignificant as the Hippocratic oath of physicians.

America has been purposefully blinded, and is being manipulated into a tool for interests that are neither ours, nor of our own making. Repeatedly, we have seen actions taken in our name, yet we have not initiated them. We see rules being broken, for our benefit, yet we don't prosper from them. We see leaders speaking for us, yet they don't listen to us.

We are being financially burdened with a yoke that was engineered outside this country, separate from the will of the people, and for the benefit of the continuation of a failed Central Banking system. Of course, the failure is relative to the benefit or service it provides. There are those who do benefit; but they are for the major part, not American. There are those who suffer the burden of the yoke, they are 'for the most part, Americans.

Please, contact your representatives, and tell them this is a pig with lipstick. They will probably understand that phrase, since they found it so amusing during the production of their game show.

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 09:48 AM
The sickest part of this whole 451 page bailout is that if they were to show every page to all Americans and place a dollar price on "Wooden arrows" and "wool" and all the other 451 pages of crap, do you think we would say. " YES" Hell no, we would tell them to take their $800 Billion , may as well say a Trillion when it is all done.

the other sad note, is that probably only 20% of people even care to look at this stuff and just blindly accept whatever the government does as correct. Who is next to bail out. the Airlines, Auto Industry, just make a list and have everyone sign their name and tell us that we are now a Socialist society and the top 5% pay for everything.

And we call our seves a Democracy. Look it up the dictionary, we are so far from it I am truly frightened for the future.

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 10:09 AM
Now with the net, this stuff goes all over thw world, and your country must look bloody stupid. You have a bill that includes wooden arrows for kids, and some research into wool, included in a bill that is supposedly very important to your country.

I think those smileys say it all, from around the world.

[edit on 10/2/2008 by andy1033]

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 10:24 AM
Mc Cain is against "Pork". Mc Cain is a head honcho on the Indian Affairs, has wielded his power to grant and take away from certain tribes in the past, depending on their relationship with the "favored" tribes. Wonder who added Indian tribe"pork"? Wonder why McCain rushed back to rescue the bill? I really wish someone would post names with the pork attachments that were added as riders, all of this has been kept as quiet as possible.

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 10:36 AM
reply to post by andy1033

Gee, I feel better now, knowing that you're amused.

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 10:41 AM
reply to post by Maxmars

No, you took it the wrong way, i was just amused about how they pass stuff over there. I am not laughing at the serious parts of it.

But heck, the world is watching you know.

People are starving all over the world, and you guys are saying its important to get kids wooden arrows, and you need research into wool. Now whats that about? How are these things so called sweeteners, who needs things like that in a bill to get it passed.

[edit on 10/2/2008 by andy1033]

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 11:14 AM
reply to post by andy1033

It's true, it has to be the most insulting set of 'buy-in' points I have ever seen. I suppose when you take a three-page piece of legislation and turn it into a 400-page monster (and pass it quickly back) you are going to get a lot of that fluff in there.

I was surprised at how foolishly the representatives are behaving. Almost as if they demand the American people stop 'second-guessing' their all-knowing wisdom. We just don't understand it, they say.

I wish someone could remind them that nonsense, by definition, is illogical; expecting it to be 'understood' is insane and dysfunctional.

But once again, I suppose we are not obliging them by lowering ourselves to their expectation of stupidity.

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 11:15 AM
reply to post by slouden


So John McCain. Who's name is attached to Race Track Tax Breaks?

Say the name. How about Charles Keating ? there's a name we know.

So step up or shut up. Where's the protection you brag about?

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 11:44 AM
reply to post by andy1033
And your goverment is all pure and honest,WOW Please let me know where there is a goverment that is not corrupt in some form or fashion.

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