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Obama Takes First Direct Shot At Palin

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posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 07:35 AM

Obama Takes First Direct Shot At Palin

"Don't be fooled," Obama told the crowd surrounding him in a large barn. "John McCain's party, with the help of John McCain, has been in charge" for nearly eight years.

"I know the governor of Alaska has been saying she's change, and that's great," Obama said. "She's a skillful politician. But, you know, when you've been taking all these earmarks when it's convenient, and then suddenly you're the champion anti-earmark person, that's not change. Come on! I mean, words mean something, you can't just make stuff up."

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posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 07:35 AM
This article is from the Huffington post but it is being reported from the AP and other news sources. Obama questions Palins' earmarks and how McCain and Republicans can be the party of change.

I say about time they question how the Republicans are the party of change. I have been bringing up that fact that this is a flawed argument presented by McCain and the Republicans and they must think the American public are complete idiots if they are buying into this false logic.
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 08:21 AM
reply to post by iamcamouflage

Bingo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I believe that in politics the politicians actually think we are all idiots, I say most American are gullible and easily manipulated by media but idiots they are not, is just that by the time they figure out that they has been taken for fools is already too late.

posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 11:07 AM
reply to post by iamcamouflage

I support more of this "calling each other out" either by the candidates or the media. For years we have been asking soft questions and accepting non-answers and we, the people, suffer for it.

John McCain is not a harbinger of change. And certainly Sarah Palin is not. I don't think it's "taking a shot" to expose reality and call for the truth. I think it's good (for the people) politics.

posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 11:23 AM
Way to go gang... A true Democrat partisan thread.
Need I point out that the Republicans HAVE NOT been in charge for 8 years... The Democrats have been controlling the House lately - a convenient ommission.

As far as change - I can promise that regardless of who is elected, there will be no change. You will see 4 more years of the same old song and dance routine that we have experienced for the past 30 years. But hey, why bother seeing the forest for the trees when you can simply guzzle the Kool-Aid, right?

A final thought... Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin ALL have skeletons galore in their closets. EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM have demonstrated the uncanny knack for being out of touch with the average American. Each of them have supported policies which fly in the face on what matter's most for the citizens. And each of them have pandered their asses off for financial gain in the form of contributions - yet you all support them. Why? What in the hell are you all smoking?

posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 11:42 AM
I don't think Obama should be pointing out Palin's earmarks considering he's got plenty under his belt ... and they helped some of his shadier connections.

McCain is the only one who can stand by his record on earmarks. He has worked on MANY bills and has been around a long time and yet he has never had one penny in earmarks.

I think McCain might be the only one in the Senate with no earmarks ... that says a LOT for the man.


posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 11:42 AM
reply to post by kozmo

It is not an ommission.

Lets see here,
Republican president 20 of previous 28 years.
Republican controlled congress 1992-2006 14 years
6 of those 14 years it was a majority in house and senate + a Republican president who made one veto in those 6.

And you want to claim that the Democratic congress who have been in majority(a very slim majority I might add) for less than two years, constantly fighting a Republican president who has all of a sudden found his veto pen(9 vetos, since demacratic majority 2006). Not to mention that the slim majority they have is NOT enough to over turn a veto. They have tried to improve the country and get us out of this hole but they are stuck from every angle.

You will see 4 more years of the same old song and dance routine that we have experienced for the past 30 years.

Remind me again what party has had the largest majority and most of the control for the last 30 years. The current state of this country, good or bad, is the direct result of a Republican agenda.

If the Republicans wanted change, why didnt they make those changes when they had no opposition? They want beat the drum of drilling but they had all the opportunity in the world to open up drilling where ever they wanted and dont act as though gas prices started going up in 2006. I'm opposed to the pointless drilling but the Republicans could have made if happen if they wanted to and now they are acting like its all the democrats.

And to your final thoughts about skeletons, you are right absolutely, you cant make it to the top without stepping on a few people. But dont sit here and try to place blame on the people who have had by far the least amount of change power in this country for 30 years.

Are you supporting any candidate? What makes you think that your candidate will do what they say they will do? Should we all just give up on the process? You seem to be full of criticism but short on answers.

posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 11:47 AM
reply to post by Jemison

The difference is that Obama is not running on a "no more earmarks" ticket. I have never said that all earmarks are good and the process of implementing them seems to have many loopholes that allow for corruption but that does not mean all earmarks are bad. But again, if you claim to be above all that and then the record shows you are not, you have a credibility problem.

You are correct in saying that McCain has the best earmark record but he has taken at least one earmark even though he claims he has never taken any. McCain Earmark
And you are also correct that he has sponsored many bills to rid the govt of earmarks and I commend him for that. There are a few issues that he has stood to the entire govt/congress about and I again commend McCain on that. But if you are running a campaign on "I have never taken an earmark/We(McCain/Palin) are against earmarks" you better hope you have a clean record when it comes to earmarks. McCain has a pretty good record sans the one, but Palin has accepted and requested earmarks, while claiming she told congress "thanks but no thanks". This hurts her credibility.

This article speaks more to the hipocracy of the Republicans running on a newly designed 'Real Change' campaign. What a joke.

[edit on 7-9-2008 by iamcamouflage]

posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 11:55 AM
No more earmarks is change!

Lord Obama opposes this and criticizes it. When Lord Obama says change, I still don't know what he is talking about? Is he talking about Joe Biden?

posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 11:57 AM

Originally posted by iamcamouflage

The difference is that Obama is not running on a "no more earmarks" ticket.

Yes, Obama WAS running on a no Washington lobbyist ticket, no FISA ticket, campaign finance reform ticket, and now look at him.

He's named Joe Biden his running mate. Joe Biden's son is a big-time Washington D.C. lobbyist who gets government contracts for biotech firms he represents. Obama picked James Johnson, Co-Chairman of Perseus LLC to find him a VP. Perseus is partnered with George Soros in a biotech hedge fund.

Do you think these facts are congruent with Obama's "no lobbyist" campaign?

posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 11:37 PM
That's it? They're calling what Obama said a "direct shot" at Palin?

If so, I wonder if she even felt it, or realized that that's what Obama was trying to do?

When you compare how Palin carved up Obama like she was Zorro to this quote, I'd say they don't even exist in the same universe.

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