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But Republicans played let’s make a deal with theirs, negotiating up until the very last minute. Organized in caucus beforehand, some Republicans who knew they would kill the cloture vote, cast their ballot in favor of the Akaka Bill because they either served on the Senate Appropriations Committee with Inouye, the co-chair, and wanted to show him the courtesy, or because they’d traded their vote with Inouye in previous sessions. Republican Sen. Jon Kyl, one of the biggest opponents of the bill, promised the Hawaii delegation he would not stand in the way of the cloture vote because of a previous deal he made, but he told them if it passed cloture, he’d be their toughest opponent.
the only answer from the right, here on ATS, is that he was voting YES on a bill he knew was going to be a NO.
Originally posted by mental modulator
NOTICE how the foaming NEOCONS have completely avoided a reasonable thread?
SHILLS---- FOX has not provided them with a talking point yet...( I'm serious on that)
Originally posted by jamie83
Originally posted by mental modulator
NOTICE how the foaming NEOCONS have completely avoided a reasonable thread?
SHILLS---- FOX has not provided them with a talking point yet...( I'm serious on that)
Can you please at least try to raise the level of discussion here. Name calling, etc., really has no place on ATS. The thread is about McCain, not about other ATS members.
A shill is an associate of a person selling goods or services or a political group, who pretends no association to the seller/group and assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer. The intention of the shill is, using crowd psychology, to encourage others unaware of the set-up to purchase said goods or services or support the political group's ideological claims
Originally posted by Dronetek
reply to post by bknapple32
Yes, its politics as usual. Just as Obama has displayed again and again throughout his campaign. That still doesn't change that Obama supported the bill. If there's nothing wrong with the bill, than why are you trying so hard to divert attention from Obama?
[edit on 6-9-2008 by Dronetek]
1. I dont view the bill as wrong at all. Its a Hawaiian bill for Hawaiians. I went into DETAIL on how the bill will not provide anything towards succession.
2. Obama was legitimately in favor of said bill. AS a native Hawaiian, I can understand why.
Or McCain preaching the straight talk express, then just doing politics as usual, by voting on a bill he doesn't even believe in?
Purpose- The purpose of this Act is to provide a process for the reorganization of the single Native Hawaiian governing entity and the reaffirmation of the special political and legal relationship between the United States and that Native Hawaiian governing entity for purposes of continuing a government-to-government relationship.
1. It doesn't want to split Hawaii. We will still have 50 states.