Iran: Talks with US possible soon

Iran: Talks with US possible soon

news.bbc.co.uk

"It is possible that in the near future talks in different fields will take place with the United States," Mr Ahmadinejad said in comments reported by Irna.

He added that in the next months "certain things will happen" and insisted that no power in the world could afford to ignore Iran.

"If the United States wants talks with Iran in fair conditions we welcome that. Nobody, so far, has rejected that."

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havent seen anyone post this yet,
which i find supprising with all the attack iran and iran this topics in this area of ATS.

Iran says talks are possible without pre-conditions from the US
which is a fair deal in my view.
if the US truely wanted to stay on a peacefull path with Iran they would take every opertunity to open a diologue and get to the Table in a reasnable manner.

news.bbc.co.uk
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reply to post by bodrul

They make a threat, and you say it's fair that we meet with them with no pre-conditions?
And isn't is interesting that oil prices drop and this twit runs his mouth?

reply to post by Unkle Greggo


inlighten me on the Threat they made towards the US?
i would really like to know.

unless Iran threatening to defend them selves at all costs is a threat these days.

"He added that in the next months "certain things will happen" and insisted that no power in the world could afford to ignore Iran."

There's no threat in that statement?

reply to post by bodrul


I think he's referring to the comment that "certain things will happen" in the next few months. That reads like a threat to me too.

It should be noted that Armenareallylongunspellablename is planning on coming to the UN Assembly again this fall. Perhaps he is referring to that when he says certain things will happen, perhaps he is referring to the election, perhaps there is something planned, perhaps aliens will come down and force us to all get along.

All we know is that, according the Iranian President, "certain things will happen" in the next few months and nobody can afford toignore Iran.

reply to post by Unkle Greggo


i still dont see the threat in that?
is it some coded message which only a select few can disifer?

How would anybody not think they're making weapons when they make statements like that?

Between missile tests, enriching uranium and threatening to close oil shipping lanes you don't see a threat in the comment that "certain things will happen and no power in the world will be able to afford to ignore Iran?"

That's not even a veiled threat. It's a flat out dare.

reply to post by Crakeur


true, there are lots of things going on in the world
which has a large impact on Iran, AKA high inflation in the US and UK and other countries.

intresting how some people jump to weapons

reply to post by Unkle Greggo


were those before or after Iran
said if the US or Israel launched an attack on them

they would close the shipping lanes and target the US and Israel

and there is no international laws saying one cant test their weapons
the US and Israel did that not to long ago

also as part of the NPT iran have a right to enrich uranium read it up

Originally posted by bodrul
reply to post by Unkle Greggo

 

were those before or after Iran
said if the US or Israel launched an attack on them

they would close the shipping lanes and target the US and Israel

and there is no international laws saying one cant test their weapons
the US and Israel did that not to long ago

also as part of the NPT iran have a right to enrich uranium read it up

Timing of weapons test can say just as much as an actual bombing run. We never threatened an attack and we told Israel to back off. Stop pretending Iran a freaking saint in all of this. They've done more to keep oil prices high than anyone else. They declared war on us in 1978 ands we ignored them. Now they've declared a financial war on us. Keep an eye out for when A-Jad opens his mouth and connect the dots.

reply to post by Unkle Greggo


Mmm..."they created a threat"? Plucky is curious what you mean by assigning them as creating "a threat"? Everything that has transpired for the last 50-plus years is quite the opposite. US CORP, or CORP US (whatever you want to call our foreign-owned corporation), has been the world's leading aggressor. So, what evidence do you have to support that "they", IRAN, created a threat? (And quoting Sean Hannity does not count, you need real evidence.)

reply to post by bodrul


I wasn't jumping to any conclusions. Merely pointing out that it reads like a threat. If you see my initial post I also mentioned he might be referring to aliens. It could be anything.

Given his penchant for creating drama and the media's penchant for twisting everything as much as possible to create more drama, you've got quite a nice mix.

reply to post by Unkle Greggo


i never said Iran was a saint.
they never declared war on the US in 1979 they just overthrew the puppet the US installed to drain their resources (how some people forget history )

never threatend?
so all the Israel threatens Iran with attack
the US says attacking Iran is still on the table
the Bush gives Israel amber light to attack Iran

in fact they seem to be hard to miss since they are on this forum on this exact page

they declared a finacial war on us? how
get rid of your Crappy $ which seems to have hit rock bottom due to the fact the US cant control its finances?

reply to post by Crakeur


true


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I see this as nothing more than the "north korean model" - a delaying tactic used on western nations, where you keep stringing them along with the promise of negotiations while you feverishly work to complete what ever it is they want to negotiate about. For iran, it's their nuclear weapons program - same as it was for north korea. North korea ran this scam to perfection, even fooling the "esteemed elder statesman" jimmy carter. Iran cannot have failed to notice how well this worked and are no doubt trying their own version of this scam.

Originally posted by bodrul
reply to post by Crakeur

 

true, there are lots of things going on in the world
which has a large impact on Iran, AKA high inflation in the US and UK and other countries.

intresting how some people jump to weapons

Just as it is interesting how some people so desperately want to convince themselves that Iran is an honest, peace loving nation. Not only does there seem to be a veiled threat but there is practically no chance that the offer to talk does not come with conditions.



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Originally posted by Unkle Greggo
How would anybody not think they're making weapons when they make statements like that?

Most people wouldn't.

However, if a person's agenda is to constantly bash the U.S. and promote anything or any country that causes problems for the U.S., well, I think you can see how they could come to that (erroneous) conclusion.

Originally posted by bodrul
reply to post by Unkle Greggo

 

i never said Iran was a saint.
they never declared war on the US in 1979 they just overthrew the puppet the US installed to drain their resources (how some people forget history

)

never threatend?
so all the Israel threatens Iran with attack
the US says attacking Iran is still on the table
the Bush gives Israel amber light to attack Iran

in fact they seem to be hard to miss since they are on this forum on this exact page

they declared a finacial war on us? how
get rid of your Crappy $ which seems to have hit rock bottom due to the fact the US cant control its finances?

reply to post by Crakeur

 

true


[edit on 15-7-2008 by bodrul]

Iranian civilians invaded and took hostages in an American embassy. The Iranian government did nothing. And A-jad may have been one of the hostage takers according to people who where there. That is an act of war.

Iran threatened to wipe Israel of the map, and you claim that Iran is defending itself. That Bush gave Israel the amber light to attack is a load of crap. He publicly told them to back off, however they are an independent nation with their own policies. If they felt the need to attack they would have done it with or without our permission.

First week of July, oil prices dropped three straight days until he threatened to close the straights, and began war games. Oil prices drop today and he makes this statement, but that's all just coincidence right?

Originally posted by Unkle Greggo
Timing of weapons test can say just as much as an actual bombing run. We never threatened an attack and we told Israel to back off. Stop pretending Iran a freaking saint in all of this. They've done more to keep oil prices high than anyone else. They declared war on us in 1978 ands we ignored them. Now they've declared a financial war on us. Keep an eye out for when A-Jad opens his mouth and connect the dots.

Actually, they had a revolution. They didn't formally declare war.

The US and Britain led project Ajax. Which was intended to remove the democratically elected government from Iran, and install a harsher ruling government, and more notably, NOT democratic.

Most notably, students of all people, held a revolution. During the revolution they took embassy workers hostage. While they re-installed their Democratically elected government.

It was the US installed government that did nothing to stop them.

That issue has been resolved, and the new government is once again democratically elected, it's actually in it's second term now.

Here...

The fact is that the US has a long history of provocation and covert action inside Iran.

The In 1953 the CIA and MI6 carried out Operation Ajax (officially TP-AJAX), a covert operation by the United Kingdom and the United States to remove the democratically elected nationalist cabinet of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh from power, to support the Pahlavi dynasty and consolidate the power of Mohammed Reza Pahlavi in order to preserve the Western control of Iran's hugely lucrative oil infrastructure.

In planning the operation, the CIA organized a guerrilla force incase the communist Tudeh Party seized power as a result of the chaos created by Operation Ajax. According to formerly “Top Secret” documents released by the National Security Archive, Undersecretary of State Walter Bedell Smith reported that the CIA had reached an agreement with Qashqai tribal leaders in southern Iran to establish a clandestine safe haven from which U.S.-funded guerrillas and intelligence agents could operate.

The conspiracy centered around having the increasingly impotent Shah dismiss the powerful Prime Minister Mossadegh and replace him with General Fazlollah Zahedi, a choice agreed on by the British and Americans after careful examination for his likeliness to be pro-British.

Zahedi was installed to succeed Prime Minister Mossadegh. The deposed Mossadegh was arrested, given a show trial, and condemned to death. The Shah commuted this sentence to solitary confinement for three years in a military prison, followed by house arrest for life.

“If there had not been a military coup, there would not have been 25 years of the Shah’s brutal regime, there would not have been a revolution in 1979 and a government of clerics,” Ibrahim Yazdi, a former foreign minister and leading member of a political party that traces its origins to Mossadegh’s National Front, told the Christian Science Monitor on the 50th anniversary of the coup and installation of the Shah. “Now it seems that the Americans are pushing towards the same direction again. That shows they have not learned anything from history.”

- Steve Watson, Infowars.net, Friday, March 30, 2007

After all that, the US wants to oust their democratically elected government again?

I thought the whole point to spreading democracy was to avoid installing dictatorships.

And we're about to do it all over again.

[edit on 15-7-2008 by johnsky]