Newsweek: Obama's lead drops from 15% to 3%.

I only post this because a few weeks back, some of the Obama supporters were quoting that earlier poll as the gospel. Given the same polling outfit, I suppose we can now conclude that Obama's support is in full collapse?

Newsweek: Obama's Lead Slips

Of course, his overall support really hasn't declined by 12%. They're simply using a R-D-I split that's much more realistic this time. Their results put them in line with their own results from polls prior to the obvious outlier, as well as with Gallup and Rassmussen.

Still, there are some signs that should be worrisome to the Obama campaign in this poll. The article mentions his drop among whites and women in this poll. There has also been an enormous swing among independents since their last poll. He did have a 48-36 lead among that group. Now, he trails41-36.

This is with the full support and spinning of the media. Just imagine where we would be in our media was the least bit honest about him.

[edit on 12-7-2008 by Dronetek]

It's rather early for polls to mean much and lots of polls are skewed. However, it is my hope that as people wake from their Obama-haze they will see him for what he is .. just another typical politican who runs things like a slick used-car salesman in a suit.

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full support of the media???




maybe you should go read This post


Here's a tip for you, drone.

The media only supports themselves. They are only for themselves. They'll support McCain when it helps them

They'll support Obama when it helps them

So far in this election, they've shifted back and forth...oh.....eleventy billion times.

You blame McCains lack of a "lead" on the MSM?

LOL

Maybe you should look a little farther into what kind of person John McCain really is.

Thats why he's not leading.

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That's one area where I agree with you. Money trumps ideology in the media. While I do think there's a significant liberal bias in the media, there's also no doubt in my mind that they'll rip Obama to shreds if it suits their purposes. They think nothing of building someone up in order to tear them down.

Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
reply to post by Dronetek

 

full support of the media???

maybe you should go read This post


Here's a tip for you, drone.

The media only supports themselves. They are only for themselves. They'll support McCain when it helps them

They'll support Obama when it helps them

So far in this election, they've shifted back and forth...oh.....eleventy billion times.

You blame McCains lack of a "lead" on the MSM?

LOL

Maybe you should look a little farther into what kind of person John McCain really is.

Thats why he's not leading.

First of all, the media picked McCain. I don't know a single Republican who wanted him as our nominee. Second, the MSM does a good job of deflecting Obama scandals/criticisms, while they play up McCain's.

A good example is the coverage of this statement about "Americans are whiners". The media has had a field day with it and used every opportunity to attacked McCain to Bush. Unlike Obama, who they excuse and spend all their time explaining "what he really meant". Its so obvious to anyone with a truly objective perspective.

Obama to shreds if it suits their purposes. They think nothing of building someone up in order to tear them down.

I'm sorry but this just inst the case. Look at how the media went after bush for the FISA wiretaps and than look at how they treated Obama. Its already out of the news and even when it was given attention, they spent the whole time explaining how its "nuanced".


[edit on 12-7-2008 by Dronetek]

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First of all, the media picked McCain. I don't know a single Republican who wanted him as our nominee. Second, the MSM does a good job of deflecting Obama scandals/critisisims, while they play up Mccain's.

So the Republican convention allowed a foreign entity to choose a candidate for them? Are the republicans so easily swayed these days that they allow main stream media to dictate their decisions? Have times changed????


WAIT. No they havent.

Republicans being persuaded by the media is why we attacked Iraq.
And its why McCain is the republican candidate.


I believe that really says a "war and peace" book of information the republican candidates

[edit on 7/12/2008 by Andrew E. Wiggin]

Republicans being persuaded by the media is why we attacked Iraq.

If you believe that, than you have a lot to learn little guy.

Originally posted by Dronetek

Republicans being persuaded by the media is why we attacked Iraq.

If you believe that, than you have a lot to learn little guy.

Well....you're the one who said it

First of all, the media picked McCain. I don't know a single Republican who wanted him as our nominee. Second, the MSM does a good job of deflecting Obama scandals/criticisms, while they play up McCain's.

Remember, before going into the war, all that additional glamour from the MSM we got to see about "WMD's" and all the bad and "evil" things that Sadam wanted to do to the US?

The things that never happened?

Remember how the MSM mustered support for the invasion of Iraq, and Bush rallied for congressional support?

REmember how the american people were for it (mostly) back then, and are opposed to it (mostly) today?

You think it was the fault of anyone other than MSM?

Please.


What did George Bush do? Knock on every door in america and say "please sign this petition so i can go play army man"

Maybe a few of the people polled have come out of their trances, and can now see what type of Change Obama really represents.. Forced labor for the american people, more spying and immunity for those doing it, and more foreign aid for other countries like Africa.

Latest AOL Straw Poll(Jul 7 -Jul 14, 2008) shows McCain leading Obama by 64%-36% with 174,837 votes cast.

AOL Straw Poll

Hillary could be right. She said privately that Obama is unelectable.

Remember, before going into the war, all that additional glamour from the MSM we got to see about "WMD's" and all the bad and "evil" things that Sadam wanted to do to the US?

The things that never happened?

Remember how the MSM mustered support for the invasion of Iraq, and Bush rallied for congressional support?

REmember how the american people were for it (mostly) back then, and are opposed to it (mostly) today?

You think it was the fault of anyone other than MSM?

Please.


What did George Bush do? Knock on every door in america and say "please sign this petition so i can go play army man"

I don't know how old you are, but I'm assuming too young to remember the 90s. We were being prepared for war in Iraq for 10 years before we went. The idea that Bush somehow tricked everyone is PURE FANTASY. US policy to remove Saddam was passed under Bill Clinton and the rhetoric used by the Bush administration, was the exact same used by Clinton's.

Go learn some history and than come back and talk with the adults. I suggest reading up on UNSCOM first.

[edit on 12-7-2008 by Dronetek]

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Polls don't represent the entire country, and definitely aren't accurate. How many people were polled this time? 1037. That is a great amount of people to equate to a country of 300 million people, and 200 million or so eligible voters. Nice.

The media helps decide who wins because there is a significant amount of people who will only vote for the apparent winner.

Originally posted by Dronetek
This is with the full support and spinning of the media. Just imagine where we would be in our media was the least bit honest about him.

Is that meant to be a joke? McCain is a 'media darling'. The only station that dares to cover his lies is MSNBC (Keith Olbermann).

McCain held to different standard by media

Even on MSNBC, the media loves him:

"The press loves McCain. We're his base," MSNBC loudmouth Chris Matthews declared during the 2006 elections.

Mind you that was 2 years ago, but it still is relevant to this year's election.

"We take people to the top of the mountain and then once we get them to the top of the mountain, it's our job to knock them down," Gloria Borger of CBS said in 2006.

Except for McCain.

Since the Straight Talk Express headed across the White Mountains of New Hampshire in 2000, he has remained atop the mountain.

"McCain was, and is, still judged by a different standard. The myth of McCain lives on," write Brock and Waldman.

The "straight talk express" should be renamed the double talk express. This man, along with Obama, have a habit of flip-flopping. Neither one can come off as being a honest, truthful candidate (and therefore President). Its not like we expect much though, as our President for the past 8 years has lied constantly to the American people. What a surprise the next President is going to be a liar.

I guess that comes with the job of being a politician though.

McCain media bias example #759

Free Ride- the mccain media myth #5

However, now the media is turning on McCain. He's made them look bad. They're going to start asking tough questions and not back down. Thank the lord.

New McCain media strategy: avoid reporters

McCain gets nervous when asked about his opposition to insurance provided birth control

He has no problem providing VIAGRA for men, but doesn't support birth control for WOMEN. Sexist much?

Men can have all the geriatric sex they want, but women have to get pregnant. Nice.

Q: Earlier this week Carly Fiorina was meeting with a bunch of reporters and talked about it being unfair that insurance companies cover Viagra but not birth control. And -

McCain: I certainly do not want to discuss that issue. (uneasy laughter)

Q: But apparently you’ve voted against (McCain laughter continues)

McCain: I don’t know what I voted -

Q: Voted against coverage of birth control, forcing health insurance companies to cover birth control in the past. Is that still your position?

McCain: I’ll look at my voting record on it, but I have, uh, (5 second pause) , I don’t recall the vote right now. But I’ll be glad to look at it and get back to you as to why, I don’t -

Q: I guess her statement was that it was unfair that health insurance companies cover Viagra but not birth control. Do you have an opinion on that?

McCain: (after 8 second pause) I don’t know enough about it to give you an informed answer because I don’t recall the vote, I’ve cast thousands of votes in the Senate. I will respond to - it’s a, it’s a (nervous)

The 'straight talk express' strikes again. This man is senile, get him out of the running before he has a heart attack.

Even FOX is covering this story. Seems like the 'conservative' base doesn't like the man that much either. Sad day for the republican party when they can't field a halfway decent candidate AND their own Murdoch-funded propaganda television station bashes him. WOW.

The normally “straight talking” McCain admittedly punted on one topic Wednesday aboard his campaign bus when asked whether he believes it is unfair that some health insurance companies cover the cost of Viagra but not birth control.

McCain, who has voted against mandating birth control coverage, attempted to skirt the issue a number of times but the ever-persistent Maeve Reston of the L.A. Times pushed the topic to the point that the GOPer acknowledged he was ducking the question.

[edit on 7/12/2008 by biggie smalls]

The latest AOL Straw Poll shows McCain leading Obama 73%-27% with 37,111 votes cast. (the AOL Straw Polls are reset to zero each week with a new set of polling data).

AOL Straw Poll





[edit on 7/15/2008 by coolieno99]