Iran and US stage war games Monday 07-JUL hours apart

There's no trust between Israel and Iran. Israel thinks Iran is going to make a Nuclear Bomb. Well, it is the responsiblity of the world to put their heads together to forge a peace for everyone. It seems all Iran is doing is their best to bark like a mad dog. Their religious convictions lead their decisions. If we say anything about their religion, we are doomed to be blown up or bombed.

It is not in anyone's interest to have a war with Iran due to the trade of Oil. All that will do is make the world misreable. Our efforts would be better served with an alternative fuel for cars. When those Middle East Countries see we don't need as much oil as we used to, their economies will be the ones that start to suffer.

When we don't use as much oil as we used to, then you will really see the Middle East in Chaos.

It's pretty nutty both countries holding wargames 7 hours apart.

First the US mobilized Two nuclear powered Carrier battle groups, did practice runs with F22 Raptors, rehersed arming Moabs on live bombers and readied the cruise missiles while subarines preped their Nuclear Warheads for a possible tactical strike.

Then Ahmadinejad and the Ayatollah broke out the board game Risk which only ended when The Ayatollah threw the board on the floor screaming that Ahmadinejad was cheating

[edit on 8-7-2008 by mopusvindictus]

I wish this were analogous to the Cuban crisis, but it's not.

WWIII? where have you been? How bout WWV or VI? what was the Cold War? War on Terror?

There will be a decisive outcome of this struggle. Either the powers that officially sanction violent anti-Israel/anti-western action will step down or we'll continue to excecute the dissenters.

My only concern is the fallout and time frame. With outside funding the "Khomeinians" could hold out for a long bloody time.

But I really don't think the ME wants Israel on full-out WAR mode...

Things are changing and we're in a long overdue growing pain, but unfortunately this isn't the End Time. Things will just get bigger and weirder and more complicated. But people who can't handle the New Universe will die. . . out of fear and hopelessness...

Aliens landing who aren't all that familiar with the New Testament will be a real bummer for some people... Just kidding... sort of...

Well,
There's always plan B:

Russia,India, China, and the U.S.A. all agree to
put their differences aside and sacrifice the M.E.

We put our Mutually Assured Survival Program into effect.

Hose the M.E., and divy up the spoils and get on with life.

Kinda like, the old terminology, sacrifice the few for the many.
Hopefully, someone will think of a better idea.
In the meantime, prayer can't hurt.
Peace and God Bless

You have no idea - if the US goes into Iran we will see a world wide escalation of military engagements. The UK is in no position to push things further, the EU will not indulge in this type of ridiculous activity and China (as do India, Afghanistan, Sweden) have long term strategic energy interest in Iran, one which they will defend, further Russia has strategically aligned itself with Iran (Putins phone call last night fits in well with all of this) - I fear greatly that Russia will supply Iran with hardware as they are now (along with China).

There is every indication this is exactly where things are heading - a global hot war of the worst kind. IF this deteriorates into a clash of civilisations, as the recent D8 posturing would suggest, we can expect to see some serious ramifications from Pakistan, Balkans, Indonesia, right through to the middle east -

This will be so far beyond anything we have experienced to date -

I heard this on PMSNBC yesterday.

The USN has pulled it's last Carrier Task Force from the Persian Gulf on Monday.

The Babraham Lincoln along with its escort ships were pulled from the Persian Gulf to the Arabian Sea to assist in the WOT in other areas of the world.

So the US has no Carriers in the Persian Gulf at this time!

This means one of two things!

Either the CVN is truly needed somewhere else in the world or.

We did not want to leave a big target in the Persian Gulf for IRG to launch Sunburn missiles at when the SHTF.

You be the judge.

Iraq and Iran and many other middle east countries;in the end it boils down to just one thing "OIL". This is all about oil. Almost all wars are fought in regard to natural resources.The only natural resource the middle east has is oil....other than that it is sand(silicon).He who controls the worlds most sought after resource, controls the world.It's nothing more than corporate fascist trying to take over the worlds resources and then control the masses.

[edit on 7/8/2008 by CaptGizmo]

Hopefully, None of our ships get attacked by any unknow assailents. Which we would have to assume were Iranian. This is a referrence to the mistaken attack on the USS Liberty in 1967.

en.wikipedia.org...

Ive always felt this was a false flag attack that somehow got screwed up. or maybe it was only supposed to actually happen if Israel was losing the 6 day war and then attack could have been blamed on the Arab States to draw in the US.

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or...2012 could be following 7 years of tribulation, starting right NOW.

Lets hope john titors worldline substantially differed from ours in that:

1) beijing olympics start on time, 8.08.08 at 20:08 and finish.

2) open fighting does not start in 08, after say, the world economy collapses.

3) the halliburton camps start filling up with "lost mortgagers" - those

whose banks accounts go poof in Sept. The new debtor prisons....

etc.

[edit on 7/8/2008 by drphilxr]

Eventually,
Iran will be sharing their highly refined enriched nuclear materials with their state sponsored terrorist organizations.

Once that happens, no country will defend their actions...at least behind the scenes they will quietly agree to their demise.

It is sad to say it will only be then that the world will see the true intentions of all.

Originally posted by Incarnated
Now, I just have no clue how to help anyone any more. I've been talking about the 2012 phenomenon for years now. There's always someone wanting to break in with a "that will never happen". It happened like that a couple of years ago when I was talking about the starts to WW3. And Here we are 2 years later. We are on the brink of the engagements. Where are those nay sayers?

Might they say "yeah you got it right but that doesn't mean 2012... blah blah blah..."? The fact of the matter is that I make no predictions. I simply speak about what I see in predictions already made.

I love you people. I don't want you to be scared. I don't want to frighten you. I don't want to "be right". 2012 is the midpoint of the 7 years of tribulation. The world is circling the drain now.

Get it right or get it wrong but get with it because here it comes! This is your life's test. Defaulting is automatic failure. In no way will you ever be able to say you were not warned!

Will you ever stop the fear mongering? I have the feeling you're one of the folks who were going nuts about the whole 'Y2K' situation. As a matter of fact, I seem to recall you mentioning somewhere that something big REALLY DID happen in 2000, but nobody noticed it but you.

On Jan 1st, 2013, I look forward to seeing your post admitting you were horribly mistaken.

But it seems you've already convinced yourself that something really will happen, as so many others have in the past.

Originally posted by anicka
WELL, I GUESS NOSTRADAMUS WAS RIGHT ON TARGET: WAR BEGINS 2008 TO 2012 EH? RAPTURE HAPPENS SOON................AND I AM OUTTA HERE WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

yes the selfish will be ported up to heaven.

what does everyone think about webbot predicting missing time than a great realisation after this event i.e. missing people.

I think its interesting that webbot mimicks the same process as our consciousness's interact with the 'innerspace' Karma baby!

My favorite prediction is the female champion from middle america. She starts a massive, peaceful womans movement worldwide, ousting men in power. That would be the end of war. Creation is truth and she should be honored.

Im so disgusted with people putting off current events by comparing them to older events. Every time # like this happens we are sold the pride of america version. During the cuban missle crisis, where we had russian missles in our backdoor we had the closer ones to russia in germany...whats the freakin diff...oh yes we were in the right. Im done with the world of lies and depressed war/suicide.

At one point in our history we started to talk to each other. We cant stop now.

Hate the sin not the sinner

Follow truth in all creation

I've just finished reading a book about the Roman campaign against the Parthians. Before them the Greeks and Persians clashed, and afterwards the Christian Powers fought the Saracens for control of the Holy Land.

Seems the age old theme of East versus West just doesn't want to die... hopefully we're not about to write a new chapter into this already very thick book.

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little skirmish that's 20,000 miles away

Just a clarification for you. Tehran is 6340 miles from Washington D.C.

www.convertunits.com...

I think one aspect of any potential war or skirmish with Iran which is far deadlier than any carrier group are these.

www.milnet.com...

I don't think the Iranian Arty is gonna do much good with these.

ps: shhhhh We got a bunch of Ohio class subs. Yikes!

Becker

Damn this #.
Just stop this crazy things.
Why dont you, american people, stand up and stop this?

You guys have the power to do so.

I am sick and tired with all these #ty wars. Why cant we just live in peace and harmony?
Someone please take me away of this rock that actually is called hell on all other planets.

Okay but who's gonna tell Iran to quit trying to make nukes?

Originally posted by TheNetherlands
Damn this #.
Just stop this crazy things.
Why dont you, american people, stand up and stop this?

You guys have the power to do so.

I am sick and tired with all these #ty wars. Why cant we just live in peace and harmony?
Someone please take me away of this rock that actually is called hell on all other planets.

Originally posted by princeofpeace

Okay but who's gonna tell Iran to quit trying to make nukes?

No one? Just dont give them, or anyone else a reason for producing these kind of weapons.

And why, if i may ask, is it alright for you guys, who even used them in the past, to have such weapons but not for others?

The middle east isnt the only area on this planet whom is anti-american.
Maybe you guys dont know this but your government(s) putted the world in this current state, especially with this fake war of yours.
But you have the power to undo it.


If we all just acted like grown-ups then there would be no wars or conflicts and there would not be a need to produce such weapons.

Why dont you, the american people, stand up against this outrageous Bush Administration? If you guys get to stop your leaders from playing World Police then maybe, just maybe, we could come to a sort of treaty with all the nations of the world to destroy such weapons

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Originally posted by princeofpeace
Despite all of Irans rhetoric lately about the US not daring to attack it, they appear to be quite "jumpy" to say the least.

Im sure this wont help oil prices...things are starting to get interesting.

Iran has threatened to shut the Straits of Hormuz. Yet you will find some people who attempt to make the US the aggressor in this instance. All you can do is consider the source.

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Originally posted by MBSCSDD
Eventually,
Iran will be sharing their highly refined enriched nuclear materials with their state sponsored terrorist organizations.

Once that happens, no country will defend their actions...at least behind the scenes they will quietly agree to their demise.

It is sad to say it will only be then that the world will see the true intentions of all.

There are still people who think Iran's intentions are innocent. What you have predicted will happen, but unfortunately by then it will be too late to close Pandora's Box.

And the apologists will still be defending Iran.

Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by princeofpeace

 

Originally posted by princeofpeace
Despite all of Irans rhetoric lately about the US not daring to attack it, they appear to be quite "jumpy" to say the least.

Im sure this wont help oil prices...things are starting to get interesting.

Iran has threatened to shut the Straits of Hormuz. Yet you will find some people who attempt to make the US the aggressor in this instance. All you can do is consider the source.

reply to post by MBSCSDD

 

Originally posted by MBSCSDD
Eventually,
Iran will be sharing their highly refined enriched nuclear materials with their state sponsored terrorist organizations.

Once that happens, no country will defend their actions...at least behind the scenes they will quietly agree to their demise.

It is sad to say it will only be then that the world will see the true intentions of all.

There are still people who think Iran's intentions are innocent. What you have predicted will happen, but unfortunately by then it will be too late to close Pandora's Box.

And the apologists will still be defending Iran.

There isn't an intelligent thinking person on this planet who would by that garbage - are you for real ?

America has started two wars in response to 911 neither of which had ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT and are now threatening Iran - who by merely defending themselves you claim to being the aggressor.

Your comments would only sway the most ignorant, whom you are welcome to, i for one, enjoy the company of intelligent people. i guess like attracts like........