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Originally posted by C0le
Also some of those rights are unalienable and without borders that do not require one to be a citizen
You will find no hypocrisy in my words, I understand through reading and history what the Constitution means to all men not just greedy self righteous Americans
It is our duty as American to project our freedom to all who will embrace it, even to our enemies, hypocrisy is injustice, as is the path your kind wishes to travel, because of your misguided patriotism and nationalism...
Originally posted by C0le
reply to post by WhatTheory
I'm not sure maybe you're not getting this but
WE ATTACKED THEM
of course they are trying to kill us I'd do the same thing, Btw one of those most basic rights is the right to defend your own life...
Originally posted by Grafilthy
"United States Constitution
Adopted September 17, 1787
Article VI Clause II
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."
Originally posted by Unit541
Hey WhatTheory,
What about the "detainees", who ARE US Citizens, that were "picked up" on US soil? Huh? What about them?
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Habeus corpus is a human right that even Nazi and Japanese POW's enjoyed from Americans. It's a human right we extend to criminal gangs made of foreign nationals who are operating in the United States, as well. Extending it to the men brought into US custody from Iraq and Afghanistan is something that should have been done from the absolute start of the whole mess.
Originally posted by ghofer
Do you know that a huge percentage of prisioners at Gitmo were given to U.S. forces in return for large rewards? A reward was offered for any taliban fighters so warlords wanting some extra cash would round up innocent civilians and hand them to the U.S. Many/most prisoners held there are being held with very vague evidence.
They fed them well. The Pakistani tribesmen slaughtered a sheep in honor of their guests, Arabs and Chinese Muslims famished from fleeing U.S. bombing in the Afghan mountains. But their hosts had ulterior motives: to sell them to the Americans, said the men who are now prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.
Originally posted by Unit541
Also, Mr. WhatTheory, as someone who "believes in the constitution", are you aware that under your favorite administration, asserting your rights under it is cause for suspicion of terrorist activity?
Anyway, what I'd really like to know, is how you can claim to be a constitutionalist while defending someone who believes it's just a "goddamn piece of paper". Someone who's policies and agenda have dismantled it piece by piece.
Originally posted by WhatTheory
Originally posted by Unit541
Hey WhatTheory,
What about the "detainees", who ARE US Citizens, that were "picked up" on US soil? Huh? What about them?
Show me where this is true and I will give you my response.
Originally posted by WhatTheory
How am I defending Bush when we are discussing the current supreme court ruling. I have not even mentioned Bush. You must have Bush derangement syndrome or something.
You need to focus and stay on topic.
Originally posted by WhatTheory
Bush is correct on this issue
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.