Bugging Out: Rivers, Bicycles, Railroad Tracks

Yeah to many gears can be a right pain, its more stuff that can go wrong to which is a problem in a survival sit, I try and stick with 6-9 that way I've got a few uphill gears a few cruising and a few for when I really wanna hoof it.

I didnt know that about Spooky thats a damn shame! Just checked on ebay theres a ton of spooky bikes being sold so there still floating about there!

I think it depends on the situation you're imaging. But I'd prefer hiking with a 30-35kg bag and doing 20-30km a day through the forest using animal trails with almost no risk. Remember, you only get ambushed or killed once in these situations. If I have to flee to my “safe place” I would be scared of roads, rivers and railroad tracks.

for getting bike over unpassable terrain, foldable mountainbike:
www.swissbike.com...
designed originally for U.S.A army paratroopers for airdropping

Originally posted by hopea
for getting bike over unpassable terrain, foldable mountainbike:
www.swissbike.com...
designed originally for U.S.A army paratroopers for airdropping

Anyone find out the weight, Id like to match it up.
I can gaurantee you can get a lighter bike, just lift it over your shoulder and run....

And for that money you could build up a nice frame

[edit on 9-6-2008 by Dar Kuma]

yes you are guite right. Still it is guite nice bike. Myself i would not take with me any bike that has more than one gear. More gears means shifters and other mechanical things that can break up. same goes for suspension systems and other that kind of things, more breakable things. Allso you dont really need suspensions, unless you are trying to get through very hard terrain fast. both things stupid to do in sitx, because that includes great risk of injury. I'm no off-road specialist, but i got forest as my childhood backyard and got along very well in that forest with out suspensions. Only thing you really need is mbt-tires for good grip and width. What i would take would be something like this

finnish military bike, the most basic bike you can get (for the record, that is not me on the bike, picture is from fdf newspaper). allso what is good at that type of bike is loading racks, less things to carry at your back, less pain. I myself have at the moment bike that has both front and rear loading racks. it still has 7 gears, have to get rid of them. one thing i would like to have in it is disk brakes, got now v-brakes which are not very good.

[edit on 9/6/08 by hopea]

This chaindriven electric-assist drive would be the perfect bolt-on for a bug-out bike, would be a helpful boost when carrying full panniers!

Originally posted by hopea
Myself i would not take with me any bike that has more than one gear.

one thing i would like to have in it is disk brakes, got now v-brakes which are not very good.
[edit on 9/6/08 by hopea]

I agree, and stick with the V-brakes, They are lighter than disks.

If you need more power upgrade to the xtr Vs, I run them and they are pretty damn powerfull.

[edit on 9-6-2008 by Dar Kuma]

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I'm a disc brakes person alll the way! I've lost count of the ammount of v brakes I've went through plus they put a black mark on the rim, I like to keep my rims shiny!

Bling bling baby

Citizen, what the hell was all that banging about in the video?

Oh, and skinny tyres, skinny tubes means a broken bike, Fine for road or track/smooth surface use but entirely useless for cross country.
Im not convinced.

Now this on the other hand.
surly pugsley

smiles at fred, bling bling indeed....

[edit on 9-6-2008 by Dar Kuma]

Ok so I see a lot of people in suport of using bikes.
And I'm ok and cool with that and see the advantages and stuff for having a bike in sitx.
Considering you can go pretty fast off road and would be a good way to get away from the problem.
But besides the proplems I stated before with the difficulties of riding bikes off road and such.
But bikes would be a huge disadvantage if you were running from enimies.

Well you might say that you could go faster than them.
Which is probably the only advantage.
But being on a bike you'd be alot bigger target because you could shot the rider or the bike.
And if they shot the bike then you would fall and while your trying to get up you'd make an easy target.
Also when your on a bike your up alot higher which would also make you more voneralbe for a shot.
And the last problem I see is that if you where trying to hide it would make it alot harder to do so because you wouldnt be able to hide the bike.

So as I said before I think it is best to just rely on your own 2 feet for sitx.

some bikes have a seat tube length of 14" so they are quite low to the ground, And besides... If someone put a bullet hole in my bike they would have to die.
I also think its easier to hide a bike than you think, Just camo paint it.

they even do camo rims

[edit on 9-6-2008 by Dar Kuma]

I would use the bike to bug out immediatley after or during a sitX. While people were still panicking, I would be getting my stuff together and disappearing before the initial shock wore off the survivors, hopefully you would be able to get far enough away from people so you wouldn't have to dodge bullets etc, the bike would get me to a safer location and if I ventured out from it I would most likely be on foot unless I had to cover a fair ammount of K's.

I suppose you could have one of these bad boys and ride with a gunner in the other seat! www.smart-bike.net...

Has time gone backwards quad

The one in freds post only needs a motor.

Bikes: Light, silent, no fuel needed, off road, good speed.

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[edit on 11-6-2008 by METACOMET]

just seen the specs for this, I think they're laughable really.
cheap crank that would probably shatter if dropped from more than 5 feet
cheap wheels
cheap controls ( handlebars/stem)
and those forks, OMG, 65mm of super plush travel, are they serious?

And the fact some bloke rode it on a piece of flat singletrack for 2 minutes.

Give one to me and I would break it within about a minute.

Anyone know the weight?




[edit on 11-6-2008 by Dar Kuma]

Its should be an ominous warning to potential customers that they don't advertise the weight. And I agree folding bikes are heavy. I use old Treks cro-moly 930, and carbon 8700. Frankenstiened, of course.

Its seems like its not the frames that are expensive now, its the components. Folding bikes have their place, especially when jumping out of a plane with it. But nothing beats light and strong.

That army bike is complete pants! a cheap £50 bike would last twice as long as that thing plus it will weigh a ton.

What benefit would someone get out of using a folding bike in a sitX? You would be able to hide it alot easier thats for sure but I cant think of any other reason to use a folding bike.

Originally posted by METACOMET

that combination of images has got me thinking...

How about an 'explodable' bike that can be taken apart easily but retain certain mechanical components in their assembled configurations...such as the whole drivetrain assembly that could be feild-reassembled, and used to power a bike-towed 1-man open kayak that can be fitted for a recumbent style pedal-power prop for silent and stealth profile running.

A 1-man size kayak made of fibreglass would be light and strong enough for towing and would enable 'exploded' bike, and bob-gear in full panniers to be carried aboard, and a demountable single trailed rear wheel mounted on the 'rudder post' section of the kayak for singletrail-towing...

edit...

kinda like this..



..but a bit more james bond

[edit on 11-6-2008 by citizen smith]

How about Railbiking?

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Thats an interesting concept, I wonder how much speed you would be able to pick up on that thing.

Is there any vids of it in action I would love to see more of this!