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South Carolina sheriffs back a plan to build three regional prisons in the state to hold illegal immigrants as they await deportation.
The current plan calls for the three prisons to hold up to 400 inmates each. State prison officials will run the facilities, which will be paid for through a program with the federal Department of Homeland Security.
It hasn't been determined who will pay to build the prisons, and officials stress the plan is a work in progress.
Several sheriffs tell The Myrtle Beach Sun News that the plan would remove the inmates from overcrowded county jails, where they take up valuable space as they await officials to transfer them to the closest federal immigration court in Atlanta.
Actually drug offenders take up space, while rapists and murderers are set free. Our whole jail system needs to be rethought.
I'm not particularly pro-amnesty, nor am I anti-immigrants, but we need to figure out a solution that works for both sides.
Obviously building a border fence or detaining illegal immigrants isn't going to stop people from crossing the border. How about we have an open and honest discussion about what to do with immigrants, legal or illegal.
After all, we're all immigrants to this country. The 13 original colonies, and pretty much every state after that, had illegal immigrants; The Europeans.
In other words, what they really want is a free labor force, and some extra taxpayer dollars to line their pockets with.
Originally posted by biggie smalls
Sheriffs in South Carolina want to build special prisons to hold illegal immigrants. What happened to deporting them? There was a recent thread about a mass deportation of immigrants, but some sheriffs from S.C. think jailing them would be a better idea.
Effective would be buying a fleet of busses and hiring drivers to deport them as soon as they're processed. It would also create new jobs!
So instead of sending them home, we're going to spend taxpayer dollars (South Carolinians will be in this case) to indefinitely jail illegal immigrants. That sounds like an effective immigration policy.
Free the druggies, and apply the death penalty to capital offenders like rapist, kidnappers, and murders. Why do we continue to spend millions of dollars feeding and caring for these societal rejects? Free up the cells for more worthy candidates.
Actually drug offenders take up space, while rapists and murderers are set free. Our whole jail system needs to be rethought.
Put up a real wall with armed guards that have authority to shoot. That will solve most of the problem, or better yet let the militias and Biker gangs deal with them and stop interfering. They'd be doing a public service.
Obviously building a border fence or detaining illegal immigrants isn't going to stop people from crossing the border. How about we have an open and honest discussion about what to do with immigrants, legal or illegal.
That's true, but the majority of our ancestors came here legally through Ellis Island, and did not put a drain on the economy. They contributed to their new country, and readily adopted the language and culture. They were also willing to make the effort to become naturalized the right way, and were proud to do so, and call themselves Americans. Illegals and legitimate immigrants are apples and oranges in my opinion.
After all, we're all immigrants to this country. The 13 original colonies, and pretty much every state after that, had illegal immigrants; The Europeans.
The tax system collects its due, even from a class of workers with little likelihood of claiming a refund and no hope of drawing a Social Security check.
Illegal immigrants are paying taxes to Uncle Sam, experts agree. Just how much they pay is hard to determine because the federal government doesn't fully tally it.
But the latest figures available indicate it will amount to billions of dollars in federal income, Social Security and Medicare taxes this year. One rough estimate puts the amount of Social Security taxes alone at around $9 billion per year.
Paycheck withholding collects much of the federal tax from illegal workers, just as it does for legal workers.
The majority of our ancestors came here legally through Ellis Island, and did not put a drain on the economy. They contributed to their new country, and readily adopted the language and culture.
Free the druggies, and apply the death penalty to capital offenders like rapist, kidnappers, and murders. Why do we continue to spend millions of dollars feeding and caring for these societal rejects?
Free up the cells for more worthy candidates.
Put up a real wall with armed guards that have authority to shoot. That will solve most of the problem, or better yet let the militias and Biker gangs deal with them and stop interfering. They'd be doing a public service.
They may in fact pay taxes, but how much do they drain away from social programs like AFDC, Medicaid, and WIC? They also cost American workers jobs by working for substandard wages and benefits. This doesn't even take into account the crimes they commit, or the financial drain they place on school systems to educate their children with bilingual teachers because they refuse to learn English.
Originally posted by biggie smalls
Illegal immigrants pay taxes...
Illegal immigrants are paying taxes to Uncle Sam, experts agree. Just how much they pay is hard to determine because the federal government doesn't fully tally it.
But the latest figures available indicate it will amount to billions of dollars in federal income, Social Security and Medicare taxes this year. One rough estimate puts the amount of Social Security taxes alone at around $9 billion per year.
Paycheck withholding collects much of the federal tax from illegal workers, just as it does for legal workers.
I know you're kidding here, how can you be in compliance with the law when you knowingly hire illegal immigrants? Americans have to provide social security cards, fill out I-9 forms, provide birth certificates, ad nauseum. Why aren't these illegals required to do the same thing?
Not only are businesses in compliance with the immigrants, but so are the banks.
Technically speaking they did. The spoils belong to the victor, the indians lost. I don't agree with how the Native Americans have been treated, but there is little that can be done about it now. If anyone deserves reparations, they do. I doubt the US government is going to deed back the country to them anytime in the near future though.
The original 13 states were colonies, living in stolen property. The settlers/colonists did not "legally" come here.
Executions by the state for capital crimes doesn't constitute murder, it's justice. These individuals contribute nothing to our society other than chaos and mayhem.
I do not agree with this statement for the most part either. Although I am fine with freeing nonviolent drug offenders, I am not ok with murder:
How can eliminating violent, non-productive individuals from society not be an effective tool? People will once again be able to sleep soundly in their beds at night, and walk their streets without being afraid.
The death penalty is not an effective tool of a "civilized" nation. If we're going to murder rapists, kidnappers, and murderers, we might as well start murdering petty theft.
Unfortunately it's all we've got, so we must make the best of it.
"Society" is a man-made construct, no more relevant to reality than say a nation-state or corporation.
People who commit lesser offenses like theft, unarmed robbery, assault & battery, child abuse, etc.
And after the murderers, rapists, and kidnappers are dead, who else would be fit to go to jail? Political dissenters? Ecoterrorists? Liberals? Conservatives? Who?
They can live a better life in their own countries, it simply requires them to put forth some personal effort. They advocate their rights here pretty well, so they should do it in their own countries. All vacancies here are filled unless they're willing to go through the legal channels.
Huh? Kill all the people who are attempting to live a better life in America? At some point in the past we welcomed immigrants, now we want them all dead. That's just great.
Militiamen aren't criminals, they're patriots who are willing to protect their country at no cost to the taxpayer.
Now you're advocating for criminals to patrol our borders and murder innocent civilians?
Come on now. You're a smart guy.