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Originally posted by chromatico
reply to post by sizzle
Don't post until you can prove.
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Dr. Antoine Remond, using our techniques in Paris, has demonstrated that this method of stimulation of the brain can be applied to the human without the help of the neurosurgeon; he is doing it in his office in Paris without neurosurgical supervision. This means that anybody with the proper apparatus can carry this out on a person covertly, with no external signs that electrodes have been used on that person. I feel that if this technique got into the hands of a secret agency, they would have total control over a human being and be able to change his beliefs extremely quickly, leaving little evidence of what they had done [46].
Lilly's assertion of the moral high ground here is interesting. Despite his avowed phobia against secrecy, a careful reading of THE SCIENTIST reveals that he continued to do work useful to this country's national security apparatus. His sensory deprivation experiments expanded upon the work of ARTICHOKE's Maitland Baldwin, and even his dolphin research has -- perhaps inadvertently proved useful in naval warfare [47]. One should note that Lilly's work on monkeys carried a "secret" classification, and that NIMH was a common CIA funding conduit [48].
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Originally posted by aleon1018
I found a site the other day when I was looking up something about my own recalled implants. It looks very similar if not identical to one of your other ariticles. I still wouldn't put it past the government to have been studying alien control technologies for their own benefit. But more than likely, that if there is alien involvement, is that they are also controlling our leaders and military as well. Some people cannot be trusted with this kind of power and technology.
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Originally posted by chromatico
reply to post by sizzle
...and we know any of this is true how?
I've found a fascinating website: www.holysmokes.com. I can't quite get a fix on it yet, but I think the guy is kind of a rationalist particularly concerned with cults. I found this particular article, which is quite long but important. I'm posting here rather than datadump because I'm soliciting comments. In concerns a man who from about 1973 was alleging he had been a "high priest" sort for the Illuminati and that all kinds of authority figures were involved. His story is complete b.s., but it's not as simple as that. For several years he was bouncing around within fundamentalist circles with his "revelations" and proclaiming how he'd accepted Christ, while still practicing "witchcraft." He was using his rituals to seduce teenage girls. This first article is from a Christian perspective, but they were good enough to include information about how Wiccans had also investigated the guy (he was claiming that he was being harrassed for his wiccan beliefs and none other than Isaac Bonewitz checked into it as a potential civil rights matter) and they found he was an ex-Satanist drug addict who was armed and dangerous and wanted nothing to do with him.
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THE OCCULT ROCK MUSIC
John Todd, Former Illuminati, on the Witchcraft of Rock & Roll
by Wes Penre, Sep 19, 2007
John Todd
His name was John Todd, a former member of the illuminati. He warned us against the plan for world control before he was framed, effectively discredit and attempts on taking his life was made more than once. The words that he left on his audio tapes are still coming to pass which puts lots of credibility on his claim that he was an insider. This [video] audio tape speaks about the dangers of rock and roll music including 'Christian rock'".
"This explains how the rock music is cursed (by putting a spell on the master recording) and how this puts a spell on those who listen to this music and especially if you bring the actual CD/Audio Cassette home with you. This is just another piece of the puzzle that explains evil in this world."
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Originally posted by chromatico
reply to post by sizzle
Being a conspiracy theory website does not mean we accept things without proof. You do not have any proof.
Originally posted by chromatico
reply to post by sizzle
No, no, no. That's not how it works. The guy making the claim has the burden of proof!
Originally posted by chromatico
reply to post by sizzle
You're not breaking the rules. In fact, you have just as much right to post here as I. It does, however, irritate me when people make wild claims with no proof.
Originally posted by chromatico
reply to post by sizzle
That is totally disingenuous! By posting the sources you are advocating them and vouching to their reliability. Furthermore, I went to the websites and couldn't find a grain of proof anywhere.