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Rev 9:11 And they have a king over them, the angel of the bottomless pit. In Hebrew his name was Abaddon, and in Greek he has the name Apollyon. (This is Osama bin Laden, Abaddon means destroyer, and Bin Laden is the single most inspirational figure for all Jihadist in the world. passage 9/11? it hit me like a brick!)
Rev 9:12 The first woe has departed; behold, after these things come two woes. (the first woe = the 9/11 terrorist attack in 2001, two more to come)
Rev 9:13 And the sixth angel trumpeted. And I heard one voice out of the four horns of the golden altar before God, (Bush readied the Iraq plan)
Rev 9:14 saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, Release the four angels, those having been bound at the great river Euphrates. (The Invasion of Iraq officially begins in 2003)
Rev 9:15 And the four angels were released, those having been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, that they should kill the third part of men. (four insurgent leaders? four military leaders, some coalition, some insurgent?)
Rev 9:16 And the number of the armies of the cavalry was two myriads of myriads; and I heard their number. (coalition occupation forces)
Rev 9:17 And so I saw in the vision the horses, and those sitting on them, having fire-colored breastplates, even dusky red and brimstone-like; and the heads of the horses as heads of lions; and out of their mouths come fire and smoke and brimstone. (the ever so famous "he must be talking about tanks or artillery!" passage)
Rev 9:18 By these three were killed the third part of men, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone coming out of their mouths. (the mouth of any gun is the tip of the barrel from which the shell is fired, FIRE?)
Rev 9:19 For their authority is in their mouth, and in their tails; for their tails are like snakes, having heads, and they do harm with them. (another mouth reference, tails being snakes having heads means possibly their rifles, its a long shot, but they are long like an extension, and have a mouth, that is.. a barrel, and they definitely do harm.)
Originally posted by runetang
Not true at all. obviously you've never been under the influence of psychoactive hallucinogens, not that i am claiming i have, but if you had, ud know such visions would be entirely possible. '___' containing stuff is even more visionary.
Or, a simple fast will work. Do not eat a single bite for a number of days, to the point where the hunger pains actually go away, and your brain will malfunction into hallucinations.
Also, sleep deprivation will cause vivid and wild visions, sometimes seemingly random visions too. The indians, as we know, would stay away for a number of days just to enter that trance like state.
Originally posted by runetang
Not true at all. obviously you've never been under the influence of psychoactive hallucinogens, not that i am claiming i have, but if you had, ud know such visions would be entirely possible. '___' containing stuff is even more visionary.
Originally posted by runetang
Or, a simple fast will work. Do not eat a single bite for a number of days, to the point where the hunger pains actually go away, and your brain will malfunction into hallucinations.
Originally posted by runetang
Also, sleep deprivation will cause vivid and wild visions, sometimes seemingly random visions too. The indians, as we know, would stay away for a number of days just to enter that trance like state.
Originally posted by enchantress62
I don't know everything about the Bible, but I did participate in a Bible study on Revelations back in the day when I was still a Christian and I do remember this. Before Revelations even begins the world is supposed to be at peace for 7 years prior and Isriel is feeding the world. How that is happening is a mystery to me, but that's what it says. It's during that time of peace that the Antichrist is supposed to rise in power through politics. He's supposed to come from a small country in the East and be a very charasmatic person that the ppl will love, thereby believing all he says.
When ppl talk about what's happening in the world today being a sign of the end of times, I think about that. If you believe what Revelations says then you have to look for that time of peace. Nothing is going to happen until that time comes, and until Isriel can feed the world. Hell you don't even have to read the Bible or Revelations. Get the "Left Behind" books and read those, they do a pretty good job of putting the whole thing into perspective in a fictional way. lol
The other day a woman I talked with said she had read something about the scientists putting all the previous prophecies together and deciding that they all were predicting the end of the world in 2012. My answer to her is when it happens it happens, none of us knows when, and none of us will be able to stop it, so why waste time worrying about it?
for the longest time, in the book of revelation, i sought to try to name the various characters of the revelation vision with people from today's world, as well as things from today's world
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by runetang
Runetag, come on bro , read a little closer. That poo was for the fire not to eat! Dried "dung" was used to fuel a fire--so he's referring to the use of dried cow dung and apparently human dung to be used as the fire for cooking--not eating the actual poo.
Ezekiel 4
12 Eat the food as you would a barley cake; bake it in the sight of the people, using human excrement for fuel."
Originally posted by runetang
Heck, it even says in Ezekiel, basically, to make bread including human feces and lay a certain way and prophesy in front of Jerusalem for such a period of time. Ezekiel, being undefiled, meaning he had never had .. relations with another man, nor woman we assume, nor has eaten any human flesh, so this is very taboo, the waste is no good for Ezekiel. So the Angel/God talking to him says okay, use cow excrement then. And so he did. And isnt that where mushrooms grow, on cow dung? HMM.. coincidence.. maybe..
Originally posted by gmac1000
Originally posted by enchantress62
Perhaps it is Not really peace that is to come before the end/change, but Possibly a Calm before the storm....Lokk at things now ...if Someone comes up right now ends the War in the middle east , drop poverty etc, then that would assume peace is falling into place...A perfect time to attack humanity...after alll its humanity that is being targeted not Asians , Americans, Russians...ETC but us all as a 1....And if you are not willing to sell out your own kind then you will be targeted....
Ascension is the last thing the Real leaders want us doing... I personally think its a plain and simple jealousy on Behalf of the Real rulers of man since they can't ascend any more, to stop us through manipulation is the only way...
I guess it depends on how literally you take the passages in the Bible. I'm not a Christian so to me it's just a book, something interesting to read once in awhile, but to many it's the end all be all, so for those that are stressing out about it, well they can look for that period of peace to mark the start of Revelations. We haven't had any simblance of world peace ever and if you're going to believe what Revelations says then that would be an important marking of time. Bin Laden, Suddam Hussan, and all the rest of them were just scape goats for Bush's real agenda, that's been made clear for a while now. None of them seem smart enough or lovable enough to be the Antichrist. He's supposed to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, at least that's what the ppl see originally. It's called the "Great Deception" I think. lol
Originally posted by runetang
In passage 9/11 of the book of revelation, thats chapter 9:11, a particular character comes onto the scene,
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his name was Abaddon, and in Greek he has the name Apollyon. (This is Osama bin Laden, Abaddon means destroyer, and Bin Laden is the single most inspirational figure for all Jihadist in the world. passage 9/11? it hit me like a brick!)