I'm Drinking Obama's Kool-Aid - And Loving It!

Originally posted by kosmicjack
Yes. I was being tongue-in-cheek, at the time, playing off of the propensity for his supporters and enthusiasts to swoon. Little did I know that the MSM, the neo-con machine and a desparate Billary faction would swing into action...

Darn reality. I've been watching FOX News too long myself.

What doesn't the overwhelming majority of this Democracy get yet?

People that listen to AM radio and go to both those Mega Churches are RIGHT!

I'm with the OP, I think Obama is the lesser of the three evils.

Still not excited about him, but If I had to pick between these three, it would be Obama without question.

Originally posted by Becker44
I thought this my be a good thread to archive some predictions I have.



So here's what I'm thinking.


All presidentail motorcade vehicles now roll on 24's

National Anthem changed to "Candy Shop" by 50 cent.

OMG! That is hilarious! Did you come up with that yourself of did you hear it from a comic. I love it!

for some reason i like obama. i think he is putting subliminal messages in my head. after falling asleep with the tv on I had a dream that I met him. when I woke up i wanted him... no, i mean i REALLY WANTED him. maybe it's something about his voice. I have no logical reasoning for wanting him to be president but for some reason i do.

Here is an excellent article that details the enigma beautifully. I recommend reading the entire link but here is an excerpt:

"Why Obama Matters" / The Atlantic

Obama’s candidacy in this sense is a potentially transformational one. Unlike any of the other candidates, he could take America—finally—past the debilitating, self-perpetuating family quarrel of the Baby Boom generation that has long engulfed all of us. So much has happened in America in the past seven years, let alone the past 40, that we can be forgiven for focusing on the present and the immediate future. But it is only when you take several large steps back into the long past that the full logic of an Obama presidency stares directly—and uncomfortably—at you.
At its best, the Obama candidacy is about ending a war—not so much the war in Iraq, which now has a momentum that will propel the occupation into the next decade—but the war within America that has prevailed since Vietnam and that shows dangerous signs of intensifying, a nonviolent civil war that has crippled America at the very time the world needs it most. It is a war about war—and about culture and about religion and about race. And in that war, Obama—and Obama alone—offers the possibility of a truce.

The traces of our long journey to this juncture can be found all around us. Its most obvious manifestation is political rhetoric. The high temperature—Bill O’Reilly’s nightly screeds against anti-Americans on one channel, Keith Olbermann’s “Worst Person in the World” on the other; MoveOn.org’s “General Betray Us” on the one side, Ann Coulter’s Treason on the other; Michael Moore’s accusation of treason at the core of the Iraq War, Sean Hannity’s assertion of treason in the opposition to it—is particularly striking when you examine the generally minor policy choices on the table. Something deeper and more powerful than the actual decisions we face is driving the tone of the debate...

Consider this hypothetical. It’s November 2008. A young Pakistani Muslim is watching television and sees that this man—Barack Hussein Obama—is the new face of America. In one simple image, America’s soft power has been ratcheted up not a notch, but a logarithm. A brown-skinned man whose father was an African, who grew up in Indonesia and Hawaii, who attended a majority-Muslim school as a boy, is now the alleged enemy. If you wanted the crudest but most effective weapon against the demonization of America that fuels Islamist ideology, Obama’s face gets close. It proves them wrong about what America is in ways no words can...

You cannot lead the United States without having a foot in both the religious and secular camps. This, surely, is where Bush has failed most profoundly. By aligning himself with the most extreme and basic of religious orientations, he has lost many moderate believers and alienated the secular and agnostic in the West. If you cannot bring the agnostics along in a campaign against religious terrorism, you have a problem.
Here again, Obama, by virtue of generation and accident, bridges this deepening divide. He was brought up in a nonreligious home and converted to Christianity as an adult. But—critically—he is not born-again. His faith—at once real and measured, hot and cool—lives at the center of the American religious experience. It is a modern, intellectual Christianity. “I didn’t have an epiphany,” he explained to me. “What I really did was to take a set of values and ideals that were first instilled in me from my mother, who was, as I have called her in my book, the last of the secular humanists—you know, belief in kindness and empathy and discipline, responsibility—those kinds of values. And I found in the Church a vessel or a repository for those values and a way to connect those values to a larger community and a belief in God and a belief in redemption and mercy and justice…I guess the point is, it continues to be both a spiritual, but also intellectual, journey for me, this issue of faith.”

…if you sense, as I do, that greater danger lies ahead, and that our divisions and recent history have combined to make the American polity and constitutional order increasingly vulnerable, then the calculus of risk changes. Sometimes, when the world is changing rapidly, the greater risk is caution. Close-up in this election campaign, Obama is unlikely. From a distance, he is necessary. At a time when America’s estrangement from the world risks tipping into dangerous imbalance, when a country at war with lethal enemies is also increasingly at war with itself, when humankind’s spiritual yearnings veer between an excess of certainty and an inability to believe anything at all, and when sectarian and racial divides seem as intractable as ever, a man who is a bridge between these worlds may be indispensable.

We may in fact have finally found that bridge to the 21st century that Bill Clinton told us about. Its name is Obama.

Originally posted by stellawayten


OMG! That is hilarious! Did you come up with that yourself of did you hear it from a comic. I love it!

Racism really is funny, isn't it?

Of course, I could say McCain's theme song will be Man in a Box and his limo is a wheel chair, but somehow reminding folks the black guy is black is just funnier than reminding them the complete piece of crap that's been in Congress 40 years sucks dinosaur testicles like candy.

reply to post by RANT


That isn't racism... it's humor in stereotyping. Comics around the world make a lot of money with humor in stereotyping. Geez, lighten up.

Originally posted by stellawayten
That isn't racism... it's humor in stereotyping.

Okay. I clearly can no longer deal with people that walk around, post things like they have something brilliant to say, and have the vote as equals.

Good luck with all this crazy.

Hey Stella, your next President is BLACK!

Have a nice day.

Thanks ATS! Your venue for equal time to balance reality with crazy has been surpassed a thousand times over.

Originally posted by RANT

Originally posted by stellawayten
That isn't racism... it's humor in stereotyping.

Hey Stella, your next President is BLACK!

And I don't have a problem with this. I don't care if the next president is purple... just because I find humor in stereotyping doesn't mean I'm a racist.

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Concerning the idea that "his record checks out"...Maybe someone can tell me then, why in the 110th congress, Senator Obama is listed as "Not Voting" on waaay more then half of the issues since 7/19/07 (yes I'm only looking at part of the 110th congress so my reference of "over half" is skewed). The point I'm trying to make is, he's young, he's inexperienced, and it's easy to stand by a record where you haven't actually stood for anything. He did alright in the 109th congress (i don't agree with a lot of his votes but at least he participated), so why the lack of activity? If voted into office can we expect him to actively pursue "change" for 2 years and then focus his energies on being re-elected. I'm sorry but I don't have confidence in his experience as reflected in the trends of his voting record. While I agree that this election more than any other I deeply crave a "none of the above" box on the ballot I don't agree that Obama is the lesser of 3 evils. The last thing I want in a president is unpredictablility.

Apparently, you are using municipal water to mix it up and drink it down.

Don't foget the chicken. lol. um...

Please don't hurt me...

Go Ron Paul.

Edit: If I was to choose one of the main candidates (Billary, Obama, McCain) I would choose Obama, probably because I know the least about him and some people around me say he's good.

Anyways,
Go Ron Paul.

[edit on 10/3/2008 by Nyorai]

I think this was an amazing speech. This guy is for real.

Hell, we all have friends and family who say and do stupid things that embarass us. However, I have read worse comments than Wright's here on ATS - Statements made by presumably white guys in the 9/11 forum, so get real ATS. What Wright said publicly, Americans of all races have been saying behind closed doors and anonymously on the web for years.

Obama coud have thrown Reverend Wright under the bus and no one would have blamed him - the nomination is so close - but he didn't because he has courage of conviction. Republicans will hold the issue of Wright over his head regardless but no self-respecting Democrat can disagree with his statements today or the stance he is taking in dealing with this sensationalized issue.

Anyone who does not recognize the rhetorical superiority of his assertions is not being intellectually honest. I hope this represents the final smackdown for Billary. And yes, I'm still drinking the kool-aid!

Full Text Of Obama's Speech

...for all those who scratched and clawed their way to get a piece of the American Dream, there were many who didn’t make it – those who were ultimately defeated, in one way or another, by discrimination. That legacy of defeat was passed on to future generations – those young men and increasingly young women who we see standing on street corners or languishing in our prisons, without hope or prospects for the future. Even for those blacks who did make it, questions of race, and racism, continue to define their worldview in fundamental ways.

For the men and women of Reverend Wright’s generation, the memories of humiliation and doubt and fear have not gone away; nor has the anger and the bitterness of those years. That anger may not get expressed in public, in front of white co-workers or white friends. But it does find voice in the barbershop or around the kitchen table. At times, that anger is exploited by politicians, to gin up votes along racial lines, or to make up for a politician’s own failings.

And occasionally it finds voice in the church on Sunday morning, in the pulpit and in the pews. The fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of Reverend Wright’s sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour in American life occurs on Sunday morning. That anger is not always productive; indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems; it keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity in our condition, and prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change. But the anger is real; it is powerful; and to simply wish it away, to condemn it without understanding its roots, only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races.

In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans don’t feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience – as far as they’re concerned, no one’s handed them anything, they’ve built it from scratch. They’ve worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pension dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and feel their dreams slipping away; in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when they’re told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time.

Like the anger within the black community, these resentments aren’t always expressed in polite company. But they have helped shape the political landscape for at least a generation. Anger over welfare and affirmative action helped forge the Reagan Coalition. Politicians routinely exploited fears of crime for their own electoral ends. Talk show hosts and conservative commentators built entire careers unmasking bogus claims of racism while dismissing legitimate discussions of racial injustice and inequality as mere political correctness or reverse racism.

Just as black anger often proved counterproductive, so have these white resentments distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle class squeeze – a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many. And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns – this too widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.

This is where we are right now. It’s a racial stalemate we’ve been stuck in for years. Contrary to the claims of some of my critics, black and white, I have never been so naïve as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy – particularly a candidacy as imperfect as my own.

But I have asserted a firm conviction – a conviction rooted in my faith in God and my faith in the American people – that working together we can move beyond some of our old racial wounds, and that in fact we have no choice if we are to continue on the path of a more perfect union...

Originally posted by stellawayten



And I don't have a problem with this. I don't care if the next president is purple... just because I find humor in stereotyping doesn't mean I'm a racist.

Oh, sorry. I thought maybe you watched that corporate TV SNL about where Obama sucked because he's ...you know... black.

I mean how funny is that? The one guy that's finally going to unite America and fix this colossal mess is like like, you know, someone you'd never talk to. Stereotypes ARE funny!

You're actually MY fav now. As stereotypes go. Guess which one YOU are?

I, for one, will not be voting for Senator Obama. Not because, he's black, but because he's a blatant Marxist/Socialist. I cannot and will not vote for someone who believes the government should "give" everything to the American people, in return for control of their lives and money.

This great nation of ours was founded on the premise that ALL MEN (generically speaking) were created equal, and have certain, UNALIENABLE rights. If Senator Obama is elected, expect those rights to significantly deteriorate. Gun owners will no longer be able to own firearms, because stricter gun control laws will be passed by Congress and signed in to law, in violation of the Second Amendment. Freedom of speech and freedom of the press will also be a thing of the past. Since 2004, Congress has already tried twice to silence the conservative media, with H.R. 4069 [108th Congress]: Media Ownership Reform Act of 2004, and H.R. 3302 [109th Congress]: Media Ownership Reform Act of 2005.

And to top it off, Senator Obama wants to fork over another $845 BILLION to the UN, in addition to the Hundreds of BILLIONS the US already gives to the UN. It's called the Global Poverty Act of 2007 [S. 2433, 110th Congress, H.R. 1302, 110th Congress]. The Senate version was introduced by Senator Obama. So, who's gonna pay for this additional (almost) TRILLION-dollar additional debt? The taxpayers, that's who. This will add an additional tax debt of about $8,500 per family (there are about 80100 Million familes (Population as of last Census was about 304 Million) in the US. If you don't like that math, take 0.7% of the GNP, and multiply by 13, the number of years obligated in the text of the bill). Either way, it comes out to about $8,500 per family. I can't afford that...

To make a long story short, Senator Obama is nothing more than another Hugo Chavez, just a better speaker.