Australian Secrets/Conspiracies

Good evening gentlemen,
I have read through some but will finish.
Perth WA i am from.
Continue thread im finding it facinating.

reply to post by Jezza


So glad to finally meet someone from Perth Anyway thanks for the post.

Back to my post about the Under Water Submarine Bases. From know on i will call these "UWSB". I did some research on Google
and came up with the 2 interesting topics that popped up on Google.

These 2 topics are -

China’s Underground/Underwater Submarine Base

&

Underwater UFO Bases .

From the "China's UWSB" link, there is an interesting picture that ATS Members should look at, if they are interested.

"In a recent report, commercially available satellite images, of the quality (objects three feet in size can be identified) once only seen by classified and advanced military organizations, are forcing the U.S. military to acknowledge various elements of China’s secret military buildup. For example, these photos make visible for the first time a secret underwater submarine tunnel".

From Link..zerosix.wordpress.com...

As for the Underwater UFO Bases link, it is also a interesting read. "Underwater UFOs have been sighted on many occasions lifting out of their submerged depths and taking to the air. In an article entitled "UFOs - at 450 Fathoms," UFO Reporter Ed Hyde told of the sighting made by Dr. R. J. Villela, a Brazilian scientist, who saw a UFO smash through an estimated 40 feet of ice at the South Pole and soar into the sky at amazing speed". From Link..

Hmm this is new to me - Aliens under the Earths Oceans. I think its possible. Like the links say, the Earths oceans are vastly un-explored, so who knows what there is down there.


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getting back to the thread topic, what other australian conspiracy's are there?

Yes, it does sound as if the Earth was bought by these particular Grey's. The Elitist sold us out and they had no right. Sadly to say in ingnorance we allowed this because of trust in our government.

Now we are waking and see we have been had, the question is do we ignore or do something about it?

We can't rise up they have prepared for that, without a doubt, (rail cars with shackles)

This has to be handled with precision and cleverness by the people.

I sense this is in this works now, good luck.

reply to post by JDN24


Great thread mate. As you know i think there needs to be an Australian link on ATS so fellow Aussies can get together a bit more.

Yes, the pine gap conspiracy is a very popular and meaty one that needs to be looked at more. I think it gets brushed under the carpet too much.

On a more recent topic i think that the Howard government gave up on the last election because they know something big is going to happen. I know a young liberal who is linked fairly heavily and he mentioned that they rolled over because they know the Australian and Global economy is going to go pear shaped. I pushed him on the matter and he got his back up and told me to drop it.

I've been doing a little research into it and it seems like they have rolled over a little too hard. The Labour government had a lot more advertising, more money spent, more campaigning.

I also think it's fishy that all the liberals bailed out of the race to become the next Liberal leader. Costello and the like have bailed and we haven't heard from them since. A little funny i think as they were a huge part of the political landscape.

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Thanks for the links mate. Port Arthur was already mentioned with some different links above but it is always good to have more..

If you are interested, be sure to check out the Fool Me Twice link on East Timor and Bali as well. It was done by a concerned individual at home using offical sources and took him 6 months to complete. He occassionally posts on the 911oz forum.

You are correct though, P Arthur is rarely ever mentioned and was so obviously an inside job. There are people determined to get this info out though so hopefully the sleeping masses will eventually wake up before it is too late although the way things are going around the world , it looks like we will are destined toward the NWO.


Oh and thanks again to the OP.
Cheers troopers.

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JDN24. Underwater UFOs are usually refered to as USOs (Unidentified Submerged Objects). If you want to know a little more there is a documentary on video.google called Deep Sea UFOs.
video.google.com.au...

It may be fairly mainstream but it is well worth a look. From memory Christopher Columbus and his UFO encounters gets mentioned as well as some other infamous events.
Bill Cooper (RIP) has stated that while on port lookout in the Navy he observed a UFO/USO emerge from the ocean that was the size of an aircraft carrier.
While on another forum I casually asked a person who claimed to be an ex Navy Commander whether he'd seen any USOs and his response was that in 25 years of service he had seen more unidentified submerged objects than he could remember. Bear in mind though that just like UFOs, USO are really just an unidentified object that may not have anything to do with ETs or military craft. I like to think that some defititely are though.

Australian Nuke Conspiracy

I know this isn't exactly "new" news, but i thought it would be a great idea to bring up here.

The Australian Governemt recently wanted to convert our coal burning "ways" no nuclear.

Um...No thanks.
I have many questions about this Nuclear power here in Australia.
Why? I think there is much more going on than swapping to Nuclear because its the cheapest and best source for power? - i dont think so.

[I think they wanted to introduce Nuclear because it's pressure on a worldwide scale. It's not the most innovative technology, it's not a power that will be readily accepted, and it's definitely not the cheapest alternative available to us, either. So why do they want it so badly?]
Source: Nuclear

Does the Australian Government want Nuclear power because it would "arm" Australia with Nuclear weapons?

I think the Australian Government was planning on getting up there with the "Big Guys"... Australia isn't exactly a "big player" on the worldwide map of influence.

Check this link for more details: www.scoop.co.nz...

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And don't forget about North West Cape in WA

The US defence facility at North West Cape has its own share of interesting features:
· The North West Cape transmitter is just slightly north of the Tropic of Capricorn, and its antipode is directly in the middle of the Bermuda triangle.
· It is almost certain that the earlier version of Pine Gap's Very Low Frequency Transceiver, which is located at North West Cape near Exmouth Bay, Western Australia, was and still is used to transmit very powerful undersea electric currents to US submarines which trail long antennae behind them. It is also known that electricity transmitted in this way can be 'strong' enough to recharge on-board high-voltage batteries known as plasma-dynamic storage cells.

And Woomera

In November 1969, construction began on the Nurrungar facility, code-named Casino.
The location, known as the "Woomera Prohibited Area", is a small valley in South Australia and was formerly used for joint British and Australian weapons testing.
Like Pine Gap, Nurrungar was equipped by Scalor Electronics and has a direct communications link with the Department of Defence in Canberra. Nurrungar is also reported to have direct radio and submarine cable links with the US (Ball, 1980, p. 65). IBM, TRW, Philco-Ford and Aerojet are heavily involved as contractors to Nurrungar.
Known as a "Joint Defence Space Communications Station", Nurrungar station is inherently involved, to some extent at least, in the SDI programme (Ball, 1992, p. 79).
Its role in SDI occurs through the Defence Support Program (Code 647). The DSP is a series of multi-purpose or integrated satellites placed at geostationary altitude and concerned with missile early-warning and nuclear-test detection. It also involves photographic and electronic intelligence.

Plenty secrets being kept down here in Oz it seems

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A member on here has said that there is rumoured to be two nukes at Salisbury in SA. That wouldn't surprise me. I really do think we have a few cards up our sleeves if push came to shove with our unstable neighbours.

Russia/North Korea/Iran vs America? Pshhh. Australia Vs India in cricket! Let's hope that this thing in the remains civil.. that's all I'm saying.

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Thanks to all the replied Anybody else have anything to post? What about Schapelle Corby @ Michelle Leslie? I think that was a bit wierd. Schapelle got a long jail sentence, but Michelle got off, with a slap on the wrist? What happened there?

I know that a bag of weed and a few X tablets is a big difference, but i think Michelle paid "them" off.

Anyway lets keep this thread going!!!! Cmon Aussies, Cmon Cmon

Originally posted by JDN24
What about Schapelle Corby @ Michelle Leslie? I think that was a bit wierd. Schapelle got a long jail sentence, but Michelle got off, with a slap on the wrist? What happened there?

Scapelle 'blame it on the boogie' Corby?
I initially thought no-one could be dumb enough to try smuggling weed *into* Bali but the subsequent revelations over the years are making me think it's likely now.

Michelle Leslie was almost certainly freed with money raised by her family. Her crime was far less too and posing as a muslim didn't hurt her chances of favorable treatment.

Why go to Bali (Noosa North) when the real Noosa is right here?

Originally posted by Pilgrum

Originally posted by JDN24
Why go to Bali (Noosa North) when the real Noosa is right here?

Speaking as someone building a house in Noosa, I agree.

Would never give Indos a cent of my money for one.

As for the thread topic- I answered some stuff in another couple of threads, I have been to Pine Gap (inside) and similar and I am happy to answer questions, just don't want to write a frciking essay for no reason.

To all ATS Members out there - im just wondering if anyone has ever been to Pine Gap.

If so, did you notice anything unusual? Was there tight security?

Also, if anybody has any pictures that "you" have taken of Pine Gap, could you please send them to me or post them.

I cant find any links that have pictures of pine gap.

Thanks

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as someone who who spent the first 20yr of my life in salisbury, and spent many many wednesday nights watching training flights from our house roof or weekends spent at the end of the main runway watching them take off overhead i cant say for 100% certain there isnt nukes there, but i can say i highly doubt there is (i find it hard to beleive theres nukes there)

there is public roads right next to every fence line and in the past 5 or so years their land has shrunk dramatically because of all the other industries going in around it.

while you cant just walk through the main gate you can stand on heaslip road all day long and watch the planes, maybe see a patrol inside the fence line every hour or so.

security is about on par with any other ordinary airforce base from what ive seen.



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Just wondering if there the is any NWO activity here in Australia?

I probably just asked a stupid question, but im really not sure

reply to post by JDN24


I did some research of any NWO activity down here in Australia and came across the following.

The implementation of the NWO has begun. Australia is the launching pad. Originally, the ruling elite had intended America to be the first nation to be absorbed into the NWO, but several things altered that decision, which led to a change to move it to Australia.

Many Greys have moved to Australia, as can be seen by the recent push by various shires to fluoridate water supplies. As I have indicated in previous articles, the Greys have lived underground for so long that they have developed deficiencies that are corrected by regular doses of toxic fluoride, which are administered to them in "medicinal" doses through water systems on the surface of the planet. People in the affected areas are subjected to fluoride poisoning for the benefit of the Greys. The authorities responsible for fluoridation, and the health professionals who support fluoridation of water systems, are nearly all ignorant of the Grey/fluoride connection.



NWO

Its a very interesting read, but im not so sure what to think of it...

Whats your opinion?

Hello from NZ,

Before any questions about NWO in Aussie, what is the current feeling regarding Rudd?

I remember reading that Australia would make a good launch pad for any 'big' changes like one-world government, NWO stuff - we're generally an easy going lot and would probably accept it with little resistance. Of course it's just a theory, and I don't buy too much into the NWO stuff, but interesting nonetheless.

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I'd really like to see how Rudd is going to dance over the next year. Health and dental funding starved under Howard, for one thing. To me though, Rudd is bit of a Howard-reincarnate, but anything to see the Libs go will suite me fine.