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Originally posted by SKUNK2
The only issues i have is with bible bashing zealots like you. Religion has no place in the modern world. Religion is just used to control and scare weak mided fools like you who are scared of nothing happening when you die.
How come religion was invented a little while after the Sumerian civilisation faded away???
Originally posted by SKUNK2
Originally posted by Redge777
Originally posted by SKUNK2
You are a 100% bible bashing zealot, stuck in a mind set that has no place in the modern world. You need to sort your head out. People like you in the UK get laughed so hard that you'd see the light and know even the existence of an almighty being is just laughable at the least.
Wow you have some anger issues I think. Is there anything we can do to help, we will pray for you friend, for us that is a form of kindness we offer. Know that when he does reveal himself to you he will show you his love. It really is cool.
God Bless.
The only issues i have is with bible bashing zealots like you. Religion has no place in the modern world. Religion is just used to control and scare weak mided fools like you who are scared of nothing happening when you die.
How come religion was invented a little while after the Sumerian civilisation faded away???
Originally posted by jedimiller
cheers jon. I know. I'm not trying to explain religion or anything like that. I'm just trying to make it logical for some to understand it. but I do feel that experiences make things appear to be more real. but anyways, thanks for believing in me. And in GOD. Because he's real and probably reading this as we speak.
Originally posted by SKUNK2
I also forgot my imaginary friend is real as well because i said he is.
Originally posted by LDragonFire
I would say this is a nice try, but it isn't.
You are comparing a physical feeling to a emotional feeling. You can capture air, you can physically touch it and you can examine it and break it down to its basic elements. You can not do any of these things with God, the only proof you have that he exists is your belief or faith in him. It's not logical or critical thinking at all.
[edit on 5-11-2007 by LDragonFire]
Well Santa Claus does not love you unconditionally, did not create you, and did not send his son to die for you, so it isn't the same thing.
Our discussion is one of perspective, prove me wrong.
Originally posted by JimmyCarterIsSmarter
I have question.
What exactly does feeling good have to do with god?
Well Santa Claus does not love you unconditionally, did not create you, and did not send his son to die for you, so it isn't the same thing.
Got anything to back that up? Of course other than, I FEEL HAPPYNESS SO IT'S GOD.
Also, what if I beleived that Santa Claus loved me unconditionally, created me, and sent his son to die for me? Does that make Santa- Claus real?
Originally posted by jon1
I would just like to say that a normal human "feel good experience" is nothing like a Godly experience. they are so different that it is obvious when you have one of those. This is why it is so hard to explain things to none believers. God makes sure there is a difference so that we know it is him who is ministering to us and not a result of our own normal feelings.
Belief in santa claus is not really any comparison with God. How many people have died for Christ and how many have died for santa claus?
People believe in santa and the tooth fairy for only a short period in their lives because they are make believe, but people believe in God all their lives. That alone tells us something is different about God.
None of us are going to change each others minds but at least we can put things in perspective on how we think.
John.
Originally posted by jedimiller
Beliefs are real. based on something solid or not. and that translates to reality.
This is stuff that annoys me. People think they are special and know for a fact that people who don't believe couldn't possibly feel what they feel. I have felt something so beyond "feel good experience" that it changed the way I looked at the world. It had nothing to do with god, or god acting upon me.
I think it is naive to say that because they don't believe in god that they must not have ever had such a feeling before. I know the difference of something that feels good at the moment, and a bliss. A feeling that you cannot even describe it is so strong. I call it being content. I dont believe many people in this world truely know how it feels to be content, and I believe it is an overwhelming feeling.
People believe in santa and the tooth fairy for only a short period in their lives because they are make believe, but people believe in God all their lives. That alone tells us something is different about God.
That is a horrible sense of logic. Time does not determine whether or not it is real or true. If some one believes minorities are inferior to white people are their lives, that does not mean there is something to it. It doesn't make it anymore credible.
We must point out the ill logic on both sides of the argument.
Originally posted by JimmyCarterIsSmarter
Got anything to back that up? Of course other than, I FEEL HAPPYNESS SO IT'S GOD.
Also, what if I believed that Santa Claus loved me unconditionally, created me, and sent his son to die for me? Does that make Santa- Claus real?
Prove that Santa Claus isn't real. After all, I believe in him.
What is it about religious people creating one of the leading causes of war in the world killing millions of people in the name of god? What's with the sexism and so on that religion causes. Geee, God must be the 'light', bringer of SUCH happyness. I LOVE god, I LOVE his teachings.