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Originally posted by LDragonFire
I would say this is a nice try, but it isn't.
Originally posted by jedimiller
Originally posted by LDragonFire
I would say this is a nice try, but it isn't.
well, I tried. But what's to say that GOD is not a physical entity like air? can you prove that it isn't? and if so, you wouldn't be able to see him, but feel him.
All I know is that Beliefs are real. based on something solid or not. and that translates to reality. would you agree with that?
Originally posted by jedimiller
GOD.
Premise. When you are walking down the street on your way to church, you feel good. warm and happy. You belive in god and you know he's there watching you. and you pray to him.
Conclusion. You don't see God, but you came to the conclusion that if you Feel god, it must be real. therefore, god is real. and you have accepted that fact. The fact that, it doesn't matter if you can see something or not. But if you FEEL it. you know it's real.
[edit on 5-11-2007 by jedimiller]
Originally posted by Redge777
If there was no god, then I have had the beauty of living a life with a holy spirit filled existence that somehow my faith created, making it real, thereby making no god a fallacy in my world perspective.
Originally posted by Redge777
I can explain the logic that teaches me that I should continue to believe and thank my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Because he teaches love, and has shown such great love to me I have no other desire then to please him with acts that follow his teachings.
Now if I was wrong and god was some yin yang neutral, I would want to show him it is possible to be better then accepting evil as just part of the norm.
If god was evil, I would want to spite him and would definitely want no part of his world, since he could not be trusted anyways, besides spiteing may be a form of evil so it would end up being right anyway.
If there was no god, then I have had the beauty of living a life with a holy spirit filled existence that somehow my faith created, making it real, thereby making no god a fallacy in my world perspective.
I thank my Lord and savior for the peace and clarity he has given me.
On my way to the Folklore Believers Convention I think about my belief in fairies and it makes me feel happy, therefore it has had a discernible effect on me, making fairies real and lack of belief in fairies a fallacy in my world perspective.
Nonsense, isn't it?
Originally posted by jedimiller
so how can you say that there is no God when you haven't seen him?
Originally posted by jedimiller
Not nonsense, if believing in fairies has given you the opportunity to feel happy and has worked, then there has to be something out there that has reached out to you. and anything that has an effect on you is real. do you see what i'm trying to say? anything out there that has caused an effect on you has a level of reality. therefore, this only proves that god DOES exist.
Originally posted by Skunky
Originally posted by jedimiller
Not nonsense, if believing in fairies has given you the opportunity to feel happy and has worked, then there has to be something out there that has reached out to you. and anything that has an effect on you is real. do you see what i'm trying to say? anything out there that has caused an effect on you has a level of reality. therefore, this only proves that god DOES exist.
I watched Star Wars when I was 4 in 1978. I thought the characters were real. They were heroic to me. It was a big influence on me. Star Wars is only real in the sense that it is a creation of someone's intent - the writer, director, crew, cast, studio bosses, distributor etc. It is real in that sense and it had an effect on me. It exists in context. The Bible exists but that does not make any of it's claims actual. Your belief in God is real. My example belief in fairies could have been equally real. But the subject of those beliefs is made no more real by the intensity of the belief itself.
Originally posted by LDragonFire
What logic? Are you speaking about the book written by man, then ordained from God by other men?
He also teaches genocide, slavery, sexism, just to name a few.
God created Everything according to your belief, good and bad.
Read the old testament.
Now you are opening your eyes good for you.
Blind faith does not equal clarity by any stretch of the imagination, peace comes from within you, not by external forces.