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posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 08:47 PM
If necessary, I protest this thread being moved, though I'm admittedly not 100% certain where best it should go (but pretty close).

I believe, or definitely want to believe, that the human race will be very thoroughly, formally and unignorably Diagnosed. This will presumably come from (a) nonhuman(s), but I suppose not necessarily so. (I'm for equality among all intelligent species). What many religious people call Judgment Day (or just Judgment) will actually be Diagnoses. All the clinical terms will be used: pathos, pathological, pathocracy, pathetic, sociopathy, psychopathy, neuroses, psychoses etc.

It's difficult to enumerate all the causes of the sickly effects of what is laughably referred to today as "civilization." It's admittedly difficult to determine what one thing, if any, is more responsible than anything else for the particularly ghastly state of affairs now, but I'm willing to wager that Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) will prove to be the biggest factor. So much so that I don't even refer to them as religions any more. They're just psychoses. As Frank Zappa said, "The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own."

Apparently the vast majority of people in any given nation belong to one or both of 2 cults. There's the cult of whatever the nation's dominant religion is (or other religion), and there's the cult of politics and government as we know them with absolutely NO real, significant changes. In the United States, the 2 cults would be (what I call) the died-for-your-sins cult and the (totalitarian) domination by the National Security state cult. Cults, however virtually universally not recognized as such the biggest ones are now, are based on tenuous and ineffective principals and beliefs; and their concurrently stupid and/or evil actions.

If every monotheist on the planet were only interested in enlightenment and real, common sense improvement instead of frivolous, mindless fantasies of a single Creator of the ENTIRE universe (and all the ridiculousness that accompanies such a notion), we wouldn't be in our current state. The spiritual people would then vastly outnumber the non-spiritual or anti-spiritual secular people, and there wouldn't be the totalitarian secrecy "needed" to protect their fragile psychoses that's made a shambles of everything. Ignorance turns out not to be bliss after all. Thus, the Abrahamic/monotheistic problem is the biggest one there is. Reaching out to the nonhumans and gaining useful knowledge would have been a done deal probably centuries ago without them.

It's no mere coincidence that the major players in today's (September 6, 2007) chaotic war posturing are from Abrahamic and Abrahamic-influenced nations. I might be buried in India (Daramsala, hopefully, if so)...

posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 09:01 PM
I do apologize if I come across as rude, but what exactly was the point of all of that? You believe that there WILL be an Armageddon, but that people will be merely "diagnosed" with various ailments explaining away their own beliefs? Or was that simply a chaotic way of saying that religion is pointless and should therefore be banned or disgarded?

Please help me out here, I'm trying to see what your post is about...

posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 09:05 PM
Sorry, need to change my sig to "The very idea of Armageddon is for cowards." Coming up. I hadn't really noticed it recently. Hope that clarifies sufficiently.

(A few minutes later): Holy s#@t! I can't believe you can't edit signatures here! Or am I a bigger computer moron than I thought? Guess I'll just erase it.

(Again): Okey dokers, unless it works this time, the unchecked "use signature" function doesn't work either...

[edit on 6-9-2007 by Lightworth]

posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 09:24 PM
Changing your signature doesn't clairfy anything in your post for me.

Please elaborate on the two cults. Also when do you believe the non humans will diagnose us.

I'm a bit confused and would appreciate your help in understanding your post.

Thank you kindly.

posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 09:27 PM
When? Sorry I don't have a crystal ball as to when the nonhuman(s) OR HUMAN(S) will Diagnose. And as I said, most cultists aren't recognized as such today (IMO). K?

posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 11:02 PM
So, again, what exactly are you talking about here? What happens once humans have been "diagnosed"? Nothing? Same crap, new toilet?

posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 07:00 AM
I'm guessing not the same crap. I don't see how it would be possible without exposing and neutralizing the National Security state (the real government) and therefore advancing science; having markedly greater knowledge about whatever is behind UFOs, (apparent) close encounters etc. Or Diagnoses will result in that soon enough. I admit it's my BELIEF and not exactly a done deal yet. Here's praying it happens before a massive depopulation, if it does.

Btw, in my first post I should've said I protest this thread being moved from the Conspiracies in Religion board. Oh well.

[edit on 7-9-2007 by Lightworth]

posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 01:20 PM
So you come on here and let slip just a little bit of incohesive jibberish, and then when asked about it you say, "sorry, can't tell you"?

What a waste of time. Good luck with your...well...whatever it is you're harping on about.

posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 05:37 PM
Yes, please forgive me for not walking on water or being omniscient.

I admit I've been ignoring the better, far more dominant aspect of (truly) changing the world due to my being a little extra angry lately (based on personal issues or mostly so). The purpose of Diagnoses, assuming they will happen, isn't to punish, but to solve problems and move on. Nothing substantial can be accomplished without enough love, forgiveness, amnesty, clean slates and the like.

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 05:28 AM
If you were God. How would you approach a member of your benevolent creation?

Would you shoot them down with lightning? People have been struck by lightning.
Or would you let themselves get into such a mess, then right before they destroy each other send in the troops. and put your energy blanket over the planet and rearrange things. Perhaps that includes classifying people not to make them victims, but to awaken there minds in a controlled situation which look at the world, Its not exactly sane, leaders or populace. Many have the right perspectives, but the aspects are so far fetched, its hard to find common ground. hence disagreement and moodiness.

[edit on 8-9-2007 by mastermind77]

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 09:27 AM
My overall basically Deist/Prime Directive views and much more are encapsulated in the first (and longest) entry of my blog on (preferably) (as Planet Lightworth). Or here's my MySpace page/blog:

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