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Military Warns Personnel Don't Go to Mexico while Senate Pushes Open Borders

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posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 02:37 PM
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Military Warns Personnel Don't Go to Mexico while Senate Pushes Open Borders


newsbyus.com

While President Bush and US Senators continue to fiddle with their open borders amnesty policy, also known as the “Immigration Reform” bill, the US military is warning its personnel and civilian employees not to enter Mexican border towns. Chillingly, this warning also includes US towns located along our southern border.

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posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 02:37 PM
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Why isn't the US mainstream media reporting that this open warfare is ongoing daily? It is disgusting to find out that Drug cartels have placed death bounties on the heads of US Citizens, Law Enforcement agencies and US Military.

This is a prime example of our media covering up stories that we need to or at least should be aware of or is lack of coverage perhaps being done at the direction of the Government?

newsbyus.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 6/21/2007 by shots]



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 02:54 PM
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Here Is a little info on just one incident that took place recently



After a May 16 drug cartel-law enforcement shootout in Cananea and Avispe, Sonora, left 23 people dead, the flow of U.S. shoppers to this border town 40 miles northeast of Cananea dropped significantly, local business owners say.

Now three weeks later, they say, those shoppers are still hesitant to return — despite the fact that there has been no further violence in the region, and that the violence in Cananea never spread to Naco.


Sierra Vista Hearald



Please visit the link provided for the complete story.



Take note of the death toll. Those drug carters are ruthless.



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posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 03:37 PM
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The State Department has had a travel advisory warning Americans not to travel to most of northern Mexico along the border due to the drug gangs fighting each other.

I'm sure added hatred against Americans (as evinced by them booing Miss USA) over the illegal immigration issue can only make it worse.

I think you'd have to pay me a lot to go to Mexico for a vacation. I'd rather go to the caribbean islands if that's what I was looking for.



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 03:40 PM
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I saw an article about this about three or four days ago, although i wasn't sure that there was any truth to it. The article was describing this ongoing war which is even spilling into U.S. territory.

This is one of those issues that i disagree with the current administration with.

Our borders should not be open to Mexico, more so when we know these wars by drug cartels and thugs are going on down there.

[edit on 21-6-2007 by Muaddib]



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 03:45 PM
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This is an example of the long-term negative effects we are reaping because our borders have gone unattended for so long.

Sending the National Guard down there unarmed was a mistake also. The cartels are not frightened off by the sight of a uniform. And the "do not shoot" policy puts our patrols in great danger.

I thought it was a fluke when two of our border patrols were sentenced to a combined 23 years in prison for busting a drug smuggler. Now, I see that it was no fluke; it is an example of what we can expect from our screwed-up border security policy.

Colorado Representative Tom Tancredo, one of our strongest advocates of secure borders, has written a chilling book that reveals another dark aspect to this: drug cartels using their vast cash assets to take over American cities and towns. Soon, they will have established a "buffer zone" of towns where they can operate with impunity. Here's an excerpt from the article:


WASHINGTON – Mexican drug cartels operating in cities in the U.S. are buying up legitimate businesses to launder money and using some of the proceeds to win local mayoral and city council seats for politicians who can shape the policies and personnel decisions of their police forces, according to Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., who has led the fight to secure the U.S.-Mexico border and enforce the nation's immigration laws.

In his new book, "In Mortal Danger: The Battle for America's Border and Security," Tancredo exposes what he has learned from meetings with law enforcement authorities regarding a concerted effort by the Mexican mafia and drug cartels to extend their corruptive influence in urban areas dominated by illegal alien populations.

www.worldnetdaily.com...

I know that some people here are going to be quick to jump on the source, buth don't waste your time. The fact is, Tancredo did write the book.

We are headed for a problem of epic proportions along our borders. It's not too late to turn the tide, but we must act now.



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 04:20 PM
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Here is some more info from various sources.

The Hispanic Gang Problem: Coming Soon to Your Community?


DRUG-related violence has reached alarming levels in Mexico, killing about 1300 people so far this year even though military troops have entered the battlefield against traffickers.
News.com.au

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.




Mexico’s War on Drugs: Cartels Have Upper Hand

Mexico is waging a war on the drug cartels but the cartels are striking back – with unprecedented violence, reports NAM contributor Louis Nevaer. It doesn’t help that the U.S. is supplying them with arms. Nevaer is the author, most recently, of "HR and the New Hispanic Workforce," a book about Hispanics in the labor force.



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Obviously the troops are doing no good read the whole article very informative.


Is Mexico's Drug War "Calderón's Iraq"?

The above link elaborates on the one above it giving numbers of toops being used stating there are around 24,000 that are not affective.

Some of the links given were just posted hours ago so most info is very current.


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posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 07:25 PM
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about all the 'warning' means to the 'GI' is that if they get caught in some
sticky situation.....the military will have something in response for the infraction....be it a reprimand or article 15 or a courts martial.

the soldiers are not supposed to be thinkers,
they're only obligated to 'follow orders'
so....do not go to Mexico!!!



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 07:41 PM
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Wheres our southern militias at? ( I thought minutemen were there?) Im sure they would handle the matter with the force of the 2nd amendment. lol

The right to bare arms,

Im serious if our country doesnt do anything americans will.



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by Tranceopticalinclined


Im serious if our country doesnt do anything americans will.


I doubt many Americans are even aware of what is going on because the MS Media is not even covering the issue as they should.

How do you expect them to take up arms over something they know nothing of? Even if they knew, I doubt they would take up arms that is not our /their nature unless of course our leaders call for it and that as we all know is like spitting into the wind.



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 08:26 PM
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I think the CIA has a lot of involvement in the Drug trade and think it would be detrimental if we closed the borders as it would cut of some of its dirty money for there dirty black ops programs. Starting about 10-15 years ago there have been major traffickers arrested and never heard from again. I believe starting with the arrests of the leaders the Ciudad Juárez drug cartel, Amado Carrillo Fuentes and Vincente Carrillo Fuentes, many others have been arrested in there wake.

The Drug Czar (Doesnt the US have a Drug Czar now??) for Mexico as well as others from Mexican millitary were connected with the Fuentes brothers.

I think the CIA was loosing money as the Mexican drug cartels became more powerful and just started taking over.



posted on Jun, 22 2007 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Muaddib
I saw an article about this about three or four days ago, although i wasn't sure that there was any truth to it. The article was describing this ongoing war which is even spilling into U.S. territory.

This is one of those issues that i disagree with the current administration with.

Our borders should not be open to Mexico, more so when we know these wars by drug cartels and thugs are going on down there.

[edit on 21-6-2007 by Muaddib]


WOW! This is turning into a regular Ghost Recon 2: Advanced Warfighter!



posted on Jun, 22 2007 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by Tranceopticalinclined
Im serious if our country doesnt do anything americans will.

As tragic as it is I feel that the militias and other groups of armed citizens and rogue military and law enforcement officers is the only way this invasion will ever be stopped. We are approaching the point of no return in some areas and Washington shows no interest in enforcing its own laws, protecting American soil and American citizens.

The United States is rapidly headed towards a 2nd civil war because of this whole issue. We will see an armed conflict on American soil within the next decade unless by some miracle Washington does something to stop the invasion.



posted on Jun, 22 2007 @ 10:16 AM
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It doesn't really matter which way the borders end up going. All legislature serves the same purpose. I oppose the open door policy because of mass immigration that keeps widening the gap between the economic classes in America.


FAIR’s own research has confirmed the connection between high immigration and income inequality. Our 1996 report What is the Relationship Between Income Inequality and Immigration? found that in the metropolitan areas with large immigrant populations, the disparity between the rich and the poor was much greater than in less immigrant-heavy areas. This holds true whether you define the middle class with a narrow or a broad range of incomes.


But even a closed door policy will still screw MILLIONS of U.S. citizens. Bush propses a closed door policy, but embedded with-in this bill are points that will still degrade the economic classes even further in the coming years.


The proposal would require that thousands more Border Patrol agents be hired and hundreds of miles of fencing along the frontier with Mexico be erected. After the government made progress in meeting those goals, in theory as soon as 18 months, the legislation would introduce a guest-worker program, allowing some immigrants into the country temporarily. And it would provide the 12 million illlegal immigrants a chance to earn legal status if they have jobs, pass a criminal background check and pay a fine, and eventually gain even permanent residency if they pay a steeper penalty, learn English and return home first.


Both of these policies in the long run serve the same purpose. There are no real differences in the political parties in this country. The branches find items to fight over that really change nothing the long-term outcome of things. It's called "wagging the dog". (for those who don't know - the expression "the tail wagging the dog" refers to any case where something of greater significance is driven by something lesser.)

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posted on Jun, 22 2007 @ 11:24 AM
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^ I agree
We are being set up to be screwed in the states and not by this issue alone. These drug lords will eventually take over and we can expect many southern states to rival East L.A. in terms of culture and crime...the goverment sleeps on this



posted on Jun, 22 2007 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by hoochymama
I think the CIA has a lot of involvement in the Drug trade and think it would be detrimental if we closed the borders as it would cut of some of its dirty money for there dirty black ops programs.
I think the CIA was loosing money as the Mexican drug cartels became more powerful and just started taking over.


Yeah no crap. Not to mention their opium fields in Afghanistan, coca fields in Columbia, and marijuana fields in Mexico/South America.

They are the main reason this violence is going on. We have a prohibition of drugs in this country which further fuels gang warfare. If we legalized all this stuff and let local businesses grow and produce it, the Mexican gangs and CIA would not have the same income to keep their dirty little businesses going.

We need to stop this once and for all. END PROHIBITION. The politicians are only killing innocent civilians with this kind of dribble. Change the laws you change the way the world works.

Nuff said.

Thank you hoochy for bringing this to the forefront of my attention.

I almost forgot about the CIAs drug smuggling.

How many times have they been caught so far? They're getting much sloppier as they need loads more cash to further fund their ilegal activities.


IF anyone wants a source, I'd be glad to find one for you.



posted on Jun, 22 2007 @ 11:45 AM
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My Opinion

See what happens when you dont mind your own business.

Much like bee's if you dont bother them they wont bother you.

So a good amount of apathy is whats needed in the situation in my opinion.

But hey if people still want to muck around with a hornets nest I could care less.

Anways thats it for my opinion on this matter.



posted on Jun, 22 2007 @ 11:50 AM
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I say as soon as the military is done in Iraq with in the next election god willing I believe we should send 3 battalions down to the border with a shoot on sight policy and throw the bodes back on the Mexico side of the border I bet they would at some point get the clue.

I know it sounds all f'd up well I am Pi##d off over all this "reform" crap
they are called ILLEGAL aliens for a reason we really need to round them up and send them back I know where to find them at there silly little rallies where ILLEGAL aliens come in droves.I don't care how they do it or what there tactics will be or are just as long as they are out of my country we need aggressive tactics at the border to cartel this drug problem why not arm the nat guard and give them some new ROE I say harsh times call for harsh measures

But I know that will never happen the us is so concerned with PR that the amnesty bill will pass and thousands of ILLEGAL aliens will become citizens god how wonderful this is (sarcosome)

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SR

posted on Jun, 22 2007 @ 11:51 AM
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What ever happened to the two border patrol agents who got imprisoned for doing there jobs? I remember a petition circulating around awhile back to try and help them out???



posted on Jun, 22 2007 @ 12:17 PM
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It's not because of a few drug dealers that's got our military worried. There is a group of ex-Mexican military personnel trained by the Israel Defense Forces, known as "the Zetas," which have thousands of trained fighters. These people are taking over the drug entry points into the US, and also taking over any drug czar's inventory by force. Think of it as a totalitarian drug trade, being run by one large group.

I find it strange that instead of sticking with the issue at hand, the article will tend to take a jab at the "leftists" media and blame the problem on them, when it has already been covered numerous more times by the left, than the right.



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