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Using the "Force": Telekinesis/Retrokinesis

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posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 02:05 AM
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About 5 years ago I dabbled in telekinesis with some surprising results..... I did the whole "psiwheel" thing and thought that mostly it was just drafts or heat moving the wheel. I tried putting the psiwheel inside a mason jar and it stopped rotating and wobbling. I thought it would be good practice(and to find out if this was in fact real) to move the wheel inside the jar where no other forces could manipulate the wheel and give you false feedback. It took a lot of practice but I eventually made the wheel turn in any direction inside the jar. Now if I could do this without any meditation or training it must be a naturally occuring phenomenon that anyone can tap into.

I am seeking out any such people who have tried telekinesis to share their stories with the ATS crowd. I am not debating anything, telekinesis is real. I dont need anyone arguing that its not.

I have found a cool online experiment that deals with retrokinesis(the ability to manipulate 1's and 0's in binary code). I once got the bell curve to reach 50 and stay there for a while but thats about it. Try this and post your scores here. I am interested in people with high scores.
www.fourmilab.ch...

Also, if anyone has any tips for the people just starting out or learning that would be nice if you posted your techniques here.

Thanks

[edit on 21-6-2007 by IMAdamnALIEN]



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 02:49 AM
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What in the heck is a psiwheel? I've never seen convincing evidence of telekinesis or retrokinesis...whatever that means, but I'm willing to look into it a bit more.



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 02:55 AM
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tinwiki.org...

A psiwheel is a simple yet effective tool for learning telekinesis. IMO its silly, but it definatly works!!! Despite what others might think telekinesis is real and its something you can prove in your own home. Try not to use your hands to move the wheel because of thermal currents, use just your mind and you will see some amazing results with practice.

[edit on 21-6-2007 by IMAdamnALIEN]



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by IMAdamnALIEN
About 5 years ago I dabbled in telekinesis with some surprising results..... I did the whole "psiwheel" thing and thought that mostly it was just drafts or heat moving the wheel. I tried putting the psiwheel inside a mason jar and it stopped rotating and wobbling. I thought it would be good practice(and to find out if this was in fact real) to move the wheel inside the jar where no other forces could manipulate the wheel and give you false feedback. It took a lot of practice but I eventually made the wheel turn in any direction inside the jar. Now if I could do this without any meditation or training it must be a naturally occuring phenomenon that anyone can tap into.

I am seeking out any such people who have tried telekinesis to share their stories with the ATS crowd. I am not debating anything, telekinesis is real. I dont need anyone arguing that its not.

I have found a cool online experiment that deals with retrokinesis(the ability to manipulate 1's and 0's in binary code). I once got the bell curve to reach 50 and stay there for a while but thats about it. Try this and post your scores here. I am interested in people with high scores.
www.fourmilab.ch...

Also, if anyone has any tips for the people just starting out or learning that would be nice if you posted your techniques here.

Thanks



Here we have a perfect example of a skeptic taking time to practice until he reached his desired result. I hope the rest of you people who are skeptics follow in his example, and don't stop practicing until you succeed.

Hey Alien, and welcome to the 'club' so to speak.

I am a practitioner of Psionics, and of the disciplines included in it is TK. It's my favorite, and most frequently practiced, though I don't really practice it as often or as intensely as I should.

The current object that I practice with to keep my abilities where they are is a dollar bill. Bending it, folding it, making it curl up in on itself, and the like is what I do with that.

The current object that I practice with to increase my abilities is a pen. Trying to roll it, etc., etc.

Some advice for people who want to practice TK, in order to get better at it you have to constantly challenge your abilities. Basically, once you get the Psi-wheel to move, stop practicing with it and then move on to an object that you think is more difficult.
Once you get that to move, you can set up the Psi-wheel again and you'll be surprised that you can move it a lot easier and in specific directions, which you couldn't do before.

That's how it works, at least for me.

There are a whole bunch of great articles on Psionics here:
www.psipog.net...

And if you just want the articles on TK they are here:
www.psipog.net...

I urge you to check out all the other articles, and not just the ones on TK. You can learn how to do a whole bunch of useful/cool stuff, the least of which is TK.

Have fun with your practice!



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 11:06 AM
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This is my little story.

I have read all the articles on psipog and the psion handbook and after about 1 week of focal meditation and practicing telekenisis i was able to spin the psi wheel albiet very small movements and came to the conclusion that psi is real and is possible.

But... strange things started accuring with electrical appliances around me, within a week i had an electrical heater blow up.

I was just thinking the room was hot when the heater was on and within 5 seconds boom...the heater had blown up. I just thought it was a coincidence at first but it didnt stop there.

Within a week i had set off a fire alarm where i work when the fire alarm should not have gone off at all, i had witnessed 3 light bulbs, 2 blew up and 1 flashed for awhile and just "fizzed" out.

With my experiences i would link psi with electricity and i stopped meditating shortly after these experiences as it was quite frightening all this going on around me.

I have also moved small bits of paper and a plastic carton without physical force, although all the practice and meditation you have to invest for such small results is questionable.

But one things for sure, its real and a strange skill to behold



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 11:07 AM
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I have had a little success moving the Psiwheel and even some withoout having my hands anywhere near the wheel...and something common i noticed is that when im barely paying attention or focusing on something else(Ex. computer screen, book page) it seems more likely to spin...



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by DistantDefiance
I have had a little success moving the Psiwheel and even some withoout having my hands anywhere near the wheel...and something common i noticed is that when im barely paying attention or focusing on something else(Ex. computer screen, book page) it seems more likely to spin...


That happened to me quite alot, if i was focusing on the computer screen any object that was on the desk near it would move really slowly and i could just about see it in the corner of my eye.

It seems to work best when you least want it to happen.

The more you really want it to work the less likely it will and vice versa.



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 11:34 AM
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exactly! I find im the most succesful when im concentrating on something around and then i can see it moving out of the corner of my eye.



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by markjaxson
This is my little story.

I have read all the articles on psipog and the psion handbook and after about 1 week of focal meditation and practicing telekenisis i was able to spin the psi wheel albiet very small movements and came to the conclusion that psi is real and is possible.

But... strange things started accuring with electrical appliances around me, within a week i had an electrical heater blow up.


That is what is commonly known as Geisting. Unintentional use of your newly found abilities. I wouldn't worry about it too much, it's fairly common. Either you get used to it, or you meditate more often and it should stop.

Most of the time Geists are triggered by an emotional reaction to a situation, or an overload of stress. Lucky me, my emotional state doesn't change very often, and I'm almost never stressed. Therefore, I don't get hardly any sort of Geist, which is a mixed blessing.

Sometimes I will Geist when practicing. I'll be trying to move a pen and the lights start to flicker, and then when I stop practicing to take my shoes off, I'll look back and the pen has skidded 1/2 across the surface when I wasn't looking.

So, just take the Geists in stride, figure out how to stop them if you want them to stop, and if you don't leave it happen naturally.



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 06:53 PM
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Wow, great replies guys!
I would like to see if you guys can get some interesting scores on the site I mentioned above. Retrokinesis is just as amazing as TK, give it a try......
www.fourmilab.ch...

I find it works best when you are holding your modem or the Ethernet cable that connects to your comp.

Thanks guys!



posted on Jun, 23 2007 @ 07:50 AM
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where are the interesting people!!!!!!!
How come no replies for days?????
Is this thread not interesting?



posted on Jun, 23 2007 @ 09:07 AM
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I think you've run out of people who've had experiences with TK.


I wouldn't be surprised if that were true, there aren't that many of us on ATS. Perhaps another forum would have more, so go ahead and try some other place if you'd like a really long thread about it. Most people here don't believe in TK and they think we're crazy/liars.


I've grown used to it though.



posted on Jun, 23 2007 @ 09:13 AM
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I've only just tried this. I can get the bell curve in the late 20's / early 30's and hold it there pretty much consistantly. If i ignore the line and concentrate on pulling a string of 0's to the left or right i can get in the 40's, as soon as i look at the line i loss it and have to start again. Haven't tried anything else yet.

I can see me spending quite abit of time on the site.



posted on Jun, 23 2007 @ 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by Origin Unknown
I've only just tried this. I can get the bell curve in the late 20's / early 30's and hold it there pretty much consistantly. If i ignore the line and concentrate on pulling a string of 0's to the left or right i can get in the 40's, as soon as i look at the line i loss it and have to start again. Haven't tried anything else yet.

I can see me spending quite abit of time on the site.


hey right on man.....Thanks for trying and im glad to see you are interested in the link i provided.

Once you get the line to go off screen, that is when you are definatly defying the odds of math. I once got a standard deviation of one out of 250 tries. got me pretty pumped. TRY TRY TRY I bet if you get good at this you could possibly manipulate a online casino game!!



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 05:03 AM
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Hey, I did the bell curve thing, and on my second try I got it to stay in the high 50s for the second half of the time, reaching 61 at the highest point. I tend to have a high aptitude for other "super powers" so I thought I'd give it a try. I don't really feel like doing the test a hundred times because A. I've got better things to do, and B. it's a lot of work for my mind, but I hope you believe that I can do it. The couple other times I did the test, I got in the 30s and 40s for about 2/5 of the time.
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I just did the bell thing again because I had one of those feelings where you can feel the energy flowing in your brain, and on that very first try I got it to stay in the above 50 for half of the time, over 60 for about a sixth of the time, and even up into the low seventies. Keep in mind that I've only done it 5 or 6 times, and I've gotten 2 really good scores. I also have been doing some telekinesis lately. I've been using a PSI wheel; when I really get into it i can get it to move all the way around in a circle. But the really cool thing was that I got it to move up to have a rotation the first night I tried it. I was wondering if that was unusual.


[edit on 17-11-2007 by BflySamurai]



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 06:19 AM
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[edit on 17-11-2007 by BflySamurai]



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 06:24 AM
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WOW i just done that bell curve test, practised it a few times and on one of my tries got a result that was pretty good, -21 was the score and it was a chance of about 1 in 14.

Then i had another go and the thing stayed in the middle the whole time. This is the expected result. So i relaxed, concentrated closed my eyes and tried the test again, i got the stick moving to the left and concentrated and focused and the thing just went nuts and flew off to the left i didnt get excited and just continued to concentrate.

My concentration wavered at times but i got to the end of the test, i figured it must be a good result because for the majority of the test i could hardly see the curve!!!

My score was -48 with 3.0 standard deviations. The text says:

"A score with this many misses can be expected by chance every 673 runs"

I've got to say that is quite extraordinary considering i had never heard of this phenomena until about 3o mins ago when i first read this post. Think there might be something to this.



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 05:11 PM
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I didn't see your reply until I just did a Google search for retrokinesis and this thread came up #1, lol, how funny is that!

That is an incredible score!

Have you done any sessions since then?

Very impressive!



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 05:41 PM
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I suck at TK, unless it's a random number generator. I score consistently around 50/100 in the Zeiner test. Chance alone would give a consistent 20/100.

I've had some luck creating vortexes in smoke and cloud bursting. But no moving pens, paper, etc. Honestly it's not worth the effort if the best people can do is move napkins. If I knew that with more practice I could go 'Carrie' on someone's ass, I'd definitely spend more time developing.



posted on Nov, 20 2008 @ 09:33 PM
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so, seriously, does anyone have any REAL tips for tk or no? i'm getting extremely aggravated....



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