America Land Of The Scared

I Know this will set the Patriots off but hear me out.

America is not the land of the brave or the free, America was a land for desperate souls to flee to, America was a new land to escape to, but the escapees had the parisite on there backs.

Now America is the home of the scared, those early explorers who wanted to escape the tyrany and poverty of their home countries found a short lived garden of eden.

Now America stands for be scared, be frightened, worry about your next pay check, about terrorists, is your wife cheating on you, dose my boss like me, will my neighbours sue me, will my kids grow up gang members, will they shoot up the school, will I be sent to war, will I lose my rights, whats happend to my pension plan, why are there so many imigrants in the country, will there be hospital care for grandma, can I afford gas, can I afford food, do the Goverment care about us, why do people hate us.

That is the reality for so many or lets say for the bulk of the population, yet for the few the future is not just rosy its positively golden. Whilst the many suffer and strive for the few things are getting better all the time, I dont need to list them here because you all know what I mean.

And in a strange way the country that so many Americans despise is the country that gave them so much and a country that America in modern times reflects the country in past times. Maybe like this country America or should I say its people need to stand up on their hind legs and fight for what their forebears fought for, to live in a land free of corruption, persecution, tyranny and want, to live in a land of LIBERTY, EQUALITY and FRATERNITY.

America is not the land of the brave or the free, America was a land for desperate souls to flee to, America was a new land to escape to, but the escapees had the parisite on there backs.

It was a place for those oppressed in their beliefs to find refuge and the right to practice as they wish, without a tyrannical oversight of their every moves, regulations emplaced upon their actions, beliefs and so forth -- Europe later then molded its self around the images of the American revolution -- refer to French Revolution.

Now America is the home of the scared, those early explorers who wanted to escape the tyrany and poverty of their home countries found a short lived garden of eden.

Hmm yes, no, sort of. I am not going to preach to you about how great America is blah blah blah. American's I think are typically more "edgy" then other peoples, as a society, it is one of our general traits..

If you watch American news you would see why.. new statistics are crammed down our throats every morning, this food will kill you, this food makes you fat, this pill gets rid of fat, this same pill gives you strokes, heart attacks, and the runs. We hear numbers every where.. from numbers in political polls, to new medical findings that give us a new and lame way to die.

The threat of death, destruction, annihilation, unhealthy, poverty, debt, debt and more debt, and more expenses, are literally hanging over us every second of the day thanks to Media, radio, commercials, "news" ..

Those who think terrrist are going to kill us may be "ignorant" in many peoples eyes, and yet those who see them as ignorant are just as afraid of "neocons" .. same people, same boat, same method of sinking.

Now America stands for be scared, be frightened, worry about your next pay check, about terrorists, is your wife cheating on you, dose my boss like me, will my neighbours sue me, will my kids grow up gang members, will they shoot up the school, will I be sent to war, will I lose my rights, whats happend to my pension plan, why are there so many imigrants in the country, will there be hospital care for grandma, can I afford gas, can I afford food, do the Goverment care about us, why do people hate us.

In your eyes as a non-American, perhaps.. I don't think every American feels this way at all though..

Worrying about your next pay check? .. Surely this is not alone to America? .. If anything it should show that America is not filled with rich snobs hell bent on world domination.. but that they are often FAR to busy worrying about FEEDING their family then about world politics.

Terrorist.. I don't think I have ever met anyone (except one colorful man in Kentucky a few years ago........) who actually feared terrorism... do you think we LIKE have a practical strip search to get on a plane, or hell, enter disney world? Common man..

Wife cheating? .. I again assume this is not alone to America lol. I don't know of anyone personally that thinks this, however I know plenty who have had divorces.. American's suffer from depression far more then many other nations, as a result this feeling of "I don't know what I want to make me happy" comes in, and often ends marriages..

Does my boss like me? ... what?

Will my neighbors sue me? .. That is actually a real concern sometimes.. in America you can sued for just about anything anymore.. ask Democratic hopeful John Edwards. He made a living (a very well to do living) off of ripping innocent people out of money. Oops. I meant Sueing people.

Trial lawyers.

Kids growing up to be gang members? .. If your kids that retarded, I suppose you could be concerned. If anything, in America, its the lack of wondering if your kid will end up like that, not actually worrying.

Shoot up the school? Not a big concern. The TV media makes a big deal out of it, but on average 20-30 kids die a year in schools out of a population of 300,000,000 people, 20-30 is not bad at all. Not to mention more then half of that is drug related.

Sent to war? Not a concern AT ALL.

Loosing rights? .. a few are concerned, the problem is, its a very few few.

What's happened to my pension plan? ... sounds like personal problems, but not a wide spread problem???

Why are there so many immigrants in my country? We know full well "why" there are ILLEGAL immigrants in this country... the problem is more in line with the influx of 20 million people on an UNDERFUNDED INFRASTRUCTURE is causing severe stress in high influx regions.. the result is higher taxation for citizens, billions more in expenses for state and local government THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REFUSES TO PAY FOR. Yet it is the federal pushing for more immigration. It's not that we don't "want" immigrants, we want regulated immigration, that's all.

Will there be hostpitals for grandma? ......... there are more nursing homes, private healthcare, hostpitals, ect then you can shake a stick at my friend. More expensive then socialized medicine, but better care.

Rock, thank you for your contribution, I think some of my post go lost in the translation though. For a start remember you do not speak for the people of America, there are more people suffering and going without in the US than in many countries.

School shootings, last time I looked the US was not made up of 300 mil children, so thats wrong. the mere fact that you would expect to here such kind of news eminating from some despot country rather than a worlds democracy is cause for concern.

There may be health care but can all Americans afford it, your social program is falling through the floor, compare it to EU standards.

Hind legs and all that, I'm talking about France, France has given so much to America, yet you seem to forget it so easily, and yes France or the French people fought the tyranny of their Goverment and ruling classes, but I'll forgive you cause I know Americans aint that clever.

And how do you measure freedom, by what standard, I could state that you are all financial slaves, that is true is it not., how long to pay off 10 trillion and counting. Freedom has many faces you know.

Sorry I have not answered all your points, its late.

For a start remember you do not speak for the people of America, there are more people suffering and going without in the US than in many countries

Last I looked, thats exactly what I said.

School shootings, last time I looked the US was not made up of 300 mil children, so thats wrong. the mere fact that you would expect to here such kind of news eminating from some despot country rather than a worlds democracy is cause for concern.

300+ million PEOPLE not children. Not all school shooting are done by children, in fact college shootings are added into the large statistics before divided into sub categories such as high school, middle school, elementary, college.. and so forth...

You don't "hear" about it from "despot" countries because most have state run media.. as for Europe, younger age crime is still a concern, maybe no shootings in the class room, but thats a social problem America has to deal with.

There may be health care but can all Americans afford it, your social program is falling through the floor, compare it to EU standards.

Depends on the person and whats wrong.. for the most part there are so many private organizations, funds, benefits and so forth if you had no money you could find HELP.. just assistance.. I personally COULD afford healthcare, but honestly I don't think it's worth $450 a month or what ever it is through my company.

Hind legs and all that, I'm talking about France, France has given so much to America, yet you seem to forget it so easily

................................................ is this a British joke? .. Because I don't tend to grasp British humor.

What has France given us? .. Except for a statue made of bronze that turned green shortly there after?

, and yes France or the French people fought the tyranny of their Goverment and ruling classes, but I'll forgive you cause I know Americans aint that clever.

Aside from the fact that I am clever enough to know right now your being nothing more then a loud mouthed bigot taking a cheap shot at an entire people, and my self personally, I have no idea what the hell your actually trying to mean about this. Yes France fought off "tyranny" .. I said that, so what the hell are you talking about?

And how do you measure freedom, by what standard, I could state that you are all financial slaves, that is true is it not., how long to pay off 10 trillion and counting. Freedom has many faces you know.

Freedom is essentially measured by the ability one can do something with out interference.. our businesses are less regulated, our people less regulated.. its a HELL of a lot harder to be tried for a crime then it is in France or many other European countries.. for the most part America is far more lenient on assemblies then other countries, for example we allow millions of illegal criminals to march in our streets. Minorities and college students march in France and they get a water cannon.

I know the Liberal Left of American politics, and the socialist control over much of European media will make you think America is some great evil, but in comparison to so many other countries, its just not a good representation of the truth...

As for the 10 trillion .. I don't think you understand economics if you think debt is "bad" in this sense.

By the way friend, this thread is slipping dangerously into a serious American - bashing rant.

[edit on 5/26/2007 by Rockpuck]

Oh yes, your country is the greatest in the world! In fact, it's the only country!

I worry I will admit that. I worry about all kinds of daily things, but sared.

No im not scared. Ive got a 9mm, AK and a nice bow. for some reason having them in my house makes me very brave. And if someone invaded me I would fill the air with lead. I aint scared.

Good thread topic magicmushroom. You're gonna get a lot of flack from the deniers, but they will only prove you right with their defensive reactions.

Originally posted by earth2
I worry I will admit that. I worry about all kinds of daily things, but sared.
No im not scared. Ive got a 9mm, AK and a nice bow. for some reason having them in my house makes me very brave.

Hehe funny how scared people grab for things to make them selves feel brave. You only think you're not scared, if you were truly not scared you wouldn't even need those weapons. Fear is the very reason people arm themselves.
But really it's not so much individual fear, as societal fear. Whether you like it or not individual members within a society are affected by that society.

It's this fear that keeps society, as a whole, from developing socially and spiritually. It keeps society divided. We have replaced personal growth with technological growth. We fill our empty lives with material things.
When people are scared they don't function well creatively. A scared society is in survival mode, even when they are in the land of plenty. Most of the fear is totally irrational. Fear of terrorists, for example, when the chances, in the U.S., of being killed in a terrorist act is about the same as getting hit by a meteor. Need a hard hat to go with that gun mate?
Society has become lazy, we let other people do our thinking for us, and they are telling us we are in danger constantly, and we need their protection, product, belief system. If you pay attention you can see the game quite clearly. See the big picture, see the connections. A society that is based on other peoples thoughts, fears, doubts, beliefs, hopes, losses, gains, is not a free society.
Society is manipulated constantly by some authority to push it in a direction they want it to go in. Along with the constant affirmation that authority is good, and right, and in control. Tell people something often enough and it becomes a truth. Especially if you offer no alternative, and society has been lulled into passivity.
It’s all a trick and it’s coming from all directions, you’re in fear of the wrong thing.

This is a good article about the terrorist threat…
Is there still a terrorist threat?

Rock I dont think America is a great evil anymore than Iran but the fact remains that your country and its people have been highjacked by corporate corruption.

Your military is being used to wage wars for corporate greed and not for your safety or freedom.

Againn the minute anyone says anything about the US its labelled anti American. Have you ever stopped and thought that there are real reasons for peoples comments, no you dont you here something you dont like and go straight onto the attack.

The countries that make up the Western World, do go around killing their own people or invading other countries but the US dose, the US has got lots of problems, one of them being that it thinks it is superior to all others, the do as I say not as I do attitude.

Americans arent scared are they, perhaps you can explain why so many own guns and why so many would not give them up.

The Goverment has got you all paranoid about terrorists and Muslims, you only have to look at the comments on these boards to see that.

The difference is between you and I that if you were saying the same about my country I would be concerned if I thought your comments to be true thats whats important not some blind patriotic dogma. If you do not acknowledge that things are wrong then you cannot put them right can you.

[quoit] there are more people suffering and going without in the US than in many countries.

I don't buy this. The USA is not a third world country yet. See this video to see what will happen to the USA if immigration is not controlled.

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

School shootings, last time I looked the US was not made up of 300 mil children, so thats wrong. the mere fact that you would expect to here such kind of news eminating from some despot country rather than a worlds democracy is cause for concern.

No one can stop mental illness. This last shooter at V-tech was missed by the authorities, the ball was dropped on this guy. Gun Free zones will get you killed every time. Why don't these nut job's attach a police station?

[quoit]There may be health care but can all Americans afford it, your social program is falling through the floor, compare it to EU standards.[/quoit]

This is funny. Health care is not an entitlement, never was. It's the communist/ socialist politician and the new media that believe that , so they can divide this country and build a larger entitlement group to take more money from the citizens of this country.

[quoit]Hind legs and all that, I'm talking about France, France has given so much to America, yet you seem to forget it so easily, and yes France or the French people fought the tyranny of their Goverment and ruling classes, but I'll forgive you cause I know Americans aint that clever.

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WHAT THE HELL??? You forget World War I and World War II? There are hundreds of USA service men buried in France and don't you forget it.

[quoit]And how do you measure freedom, by what standard, I could state that you are all financial slaves, that is true is it not., how long to pay off 10 trillion and counting. Freedom has many faces you know.

Sorry I have not answered all your points, its late.

This is the only one I can give you. The US government has spent far to much money trying to keep Western Europe out of the hands of the former USSR. We have given Western Europe far to much! Pay us back NOW!

We will take PayPal, money order or a cashiers check.

Roper

[edit on 27-5-2007 by Roper]