Beyond Conspiracy: American Hegemony (ATS Newsletter Special)

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May 21, 2007
By ATS Member "IgnoranceIsntBlisss"

Imperialism itself is generally a 'normal' function of humans all throughout history. It's plain and obvious when a nation is a hegemonic empire, so therefore it's hardly a conspiracy. However, sometimes empires exist without anyone actually knowing about it, despite it being the most glaring and obvious truth of our hypothetical society. In that context, the very nature of the hegemonic state is by definition 'conspiratorial'.

Welcome to the United States, the home of over 300 million people.

Imperialism is our heritage as 'Americans'. The cloth our empire is torn from is the British Empire. It all started in the "13 Colonies". Colonialism was merely a new breed of hegemonic / imperialistic domination and exploitation on a global scale, so therefore the 13 Colonies were simply the 13 British imperial colonies.

The Rebellion of 1776 was against the king's British Empire. The residents of the 13 colonies grew tired of the repression and the "taxation without representation" that comes with being the subjects of an imperialist state. The insurrection was a success, but then the new nation became the same thing it had rebelled against one the one hand, but it was better for the people on the other. This would last for some time, but rather quickly, the consistent unraveling of that reality had begun.

In the meantime, the American Empire was expanding. It took on the "Manifest Doctrine", which was the commonly held belief that the American Empire had a divine purpose to expand "from sea to shining sea". Well it did, and then it kept on expanding out into the entire world. All of this was imperialism.

Today, over 200 year later, the American Empire is openly referred to as the "World's Only Remaining Superpower". This evolution to this phase began after WW2, when the American & Soviet Empire's were the 2 chief empires to remain standing strong and with total global domination as their primary objective. At this time the U.S. entered into a "permanent war economy" where it has remained and remains addicted to war because of it. Now, after the Soviet Empire collapsed, the U.S. Empire remains as the "only remaining superpower" that goes out 'policing the world' as it sees fit in accordance with it's (imperial) 'interests'.

Its subjects outside of its borders live like serfs and slaves. Its subjects within its borders are under the same tyranny that they had rebelled against in 1776, but very few of said 300 million have a clear concept of any of this total context. By the numbers, most within it's borders also live like serfs and slaves. The key to keeping it all going is 'educating' those (no matter how many) within its borders from noticing. They all must be trained to deny it no matter how obvious it is or how many perpetual wars follow one another or how many Americans or others in the world die because of it.

While many may be focused on this American Empire concept, there's a bigger story than even it, which is daunting because we're talking about the greatest imperial force the world has ever seen.

The big story, which has been hinted at, is how this entire charade goes on undetected. How could this most plain and essentially open 'secret' go undetected by most of those within it?

Picture a virus entering your entire bloodstream... yet only handfuls of your white blood cells actually noticed them at all. Viruses tend to actually attack the white blood cells that are supposed to resist them. Viruses are imperialist by their very nature. They use the cells within their shared system as a 'medium' to propagate more of themselves into the bloodstream, so they can parrot the m.o. to more cells. This parallels the way the controlling imperialist establishment in the United States uses the Media to propagate their imperialist propagada into the minds of unsuspecting people, who then parrot said propaganda to get more parrots. While this all may make it sound easy, it's quite the contrary.

Most people believe that we're given bad educations here in the U.S. This all depends on what your interpretation is of "bad" and "good". In the U.S., 1% of the population controls 34.3% percent of the distribution of wealth, with the next 9% controlling 36.9% of wealth, which leaves the "bottom" 90% of The People 28.7% to squabble over. And of those are the number we're aware of. Guess who's in control of the system? Does voting matter in a system like this? It doesn't matter to U.S. Empire, which maintains a consistant pattern regardless of whether it's a Democrat or Republican in office, even in modern times. That brings us back to the big story. How can all of these people not realize the obvious truth about their own reality?

We're trained our entire lives, through indoctrinating propaganda, to ignore and deny this core truth. This indoctrination comes through the Media and school and even by the people within this society "socializing" one another by parroting the indoctrination of hypocrisy and denial they had heard. It could be said that we're trained to be stupid, and it is possible to train people to 'think' stupid. The numbers show the society as a whole getting stupider, but is this the result of poor education? Again, it depends on who you're asking.

If you open any basic Western school / history book to 'civilization', you almost always see the past "Western" dominating empires as the only historical examples. Each "civilization" that we're generally presented with is an empire: Babylon, Egypt, Greece, Rome, and then last but not least European "Colonialism". In this view, it's no wonder that the period roughly between the fall of Rome and the beginnings of colonialism is considered to be the "Dark Ages". This sheds clear light on what is exactly meant by that "Western Civilization" term we always hear, but usually just assume the only difference in virtue is that of location on the globe.
That's just the foundation we're spoon fed every year as children in school. The process goes on from there. The rest basically goes without saying, similar to how this entire essay goes without saying when you're able to actually see these things which are right on the surface. The end result is a sociey filled with millions of unwitting parrots who help socialize the rest of the population with this hypocrisy and the related myths.

When people have been indoctrinated like this they're entire lives, it becomes easy to persuade them with speculative propaganda to gain their compliance in this years new conflict. The subjects in this kind of environment are likely to forget each former conflict, just so long as you have it justified in their easily persuaded minds and you keep telling them they're 'free' to make them feel good about themselves. You can even make them feel good about themselves by convincing them that you're going there to 'bring freedom' to The People in the new land, but the truth of the matter depends on your view of 'freedom'.

You and I probably share a similar view of "freedom", but then there are the other "freedoms" that aren't often spoken of. One of them is the freedom to extend your freedom by taking freedom and power away from others. That is, the freedom to imperialistically dominate and exploit other peoples and regions. This can be observed here in the U.S. as corporations have virtually the same rights as U.S. citizens. They actually have more rights and power by leaps and bounds. These rights even extend to multi-national corporations who owe no true allegience to The People of the U.S. Even the ones from over here treat their overseas employees as literal slaves in labor camps, while cutting the throats of US Citizens. This is "Domestic Imperialism", but sociologists refer to it as "Social Stratification".

The effects of Global Stratification, that is American Imperialism (aka Globalization), were felt on September 11th, 2001. After some 50 years of dominating and exploitng the Middle Eastern region, along with most of the rest of the world, 'we' had some 'blowback' that couldn't be ignored. This was the big chance for the hundreds of millions of U.S. Citizens to notice the obvious truth about their great nation... however, propaganda was carefully crafted to prevent that from happening.

Just over 2 hours after the collapse of the North Tower, George W. Bush issued a press statement saying that "freedom itself was attacked". Virtually all statements by human beings are subject to
interpretation, and this one is no exception. Regardless of how things truly transpired that day, Bush made that statement before he could even ascertain who preformed the attacks or why. The freedom he was talking about, and still does to this day, was the freedom to dominate and exploit the world and things are looking good for that kind of 'freedom', in case you haven't noticed.

We're also indoctrinated into other social group mindsets... for instance the 2 political parties. There are some differences, but when you scrape away the emotional and moral "wedge" issues, you're left with the same imperialist party. They become virtually indistinguishable when you note the fact that even Bill Clinton served the purposes of the domestic imperialists and even conducted imperialist military operations in the Bosnia / Kosovo region during his entire presidency. The reuslt of these indoctrinated mindsets is that everyone perceives political bias in the Media but overlooks the pro-military-imperialism bias that is the true operator. Even this is right on the surface as they don't show the soldiers playing with kids, but then they don't show the kids who are blown to pieces by U.S. bombs either. This keeps people irritated, but content. The real job is just selling the war in the first place.

In conclusion, we're 'educated' (indoctrinated) our entire lives by our elite masters... to be unable to properly interpret basic truths about American Imperialism. The aftermath of hundreds of millions of people being unable to intepret this truth equates it to being beyond conspiracy. Despite this mass movement of countless individuals all serving their own interests in dominating all others (which is both domestic and global in scope), it operates along almost unknown by those who have the only chance in stopping it.


Related Links:
www.acq.osd.mil
www.lewrockwell.com
en.wikipedia.org
www.democracynow.org

Related AboveTopSecret.com Discussion Threads:
The FIRST Truth
"Freedom" = Imperialism: It's in the Language
The Media is Pro-Military-Imperialism Biased
America's death toll on the world: 27,000,000++

It will be nice to remember that no everybody is swimming in the lake of prescribed ignorance is plenty of people that knows what is going on in our nation.

You see their attempts to wake up their fellow Americans here in ATS.

But how many will fight to get hold of this nation . . . no many, so as the years, decades goes we the people becomes dependant to the government system even if we know deep inside that is not what is best for us the population.

This indoctrination is no more than telling us (as children) that we (as a nation and as individual Americans) are more worthy because we are right and they are wrong. To be right is to be good and to be wrong is to be bad. This indoctrination is helped when there is a back-drop such as the Third Reich or Stalin's atrocities. But our own atrocities are swept under the rug of righteousness.

Interesting that people will take such a facile view, or "overview" and declare it to be truth. There are many more actions, plans, mysterious, and sometimes, nefarious ongoings involved than such a simplistic view can even begin to endeavour to cover.

Personally, if American Hegemony it be, than I still think that in many ways it is a damn site better than say, an Al Quiada, Palestinian, Iranian, North Korean, or Israeli Hegemony.

It is very easy to sit back in the comfort of you den/living room/wherever you access your keyboard, and make such sage pronouncements as the previous two posts. It is quite another to be out there in the world and see the most obvious alternatives.

No, America isn't perfect. No, we aren't always just. And often, we aren't even close to right, but to be so able to denounce a lifestyle, a culture, a country that allows you to even think of putting these types of pronouncements to electronic post, so easily, leads me to believe that there hasn't been a whole lot of thought put into this, what I perceive to be, negative posting with questionable linkage of authoritative reference.

Try putting all this together, posting it on a thread in North Korea, or China, Iran, in which you denounce a government, and a lifestyle ... Let's see what happens.

Regarding people controlling wealth....


What would you have them do? Give it all away and distribute it equally?
I think there is plenty of proof that a majority of people don't have the capability of handling money. Look, for instance, at all the mega-millions lottery winners, and how many of them end up broke. Look at the people who made fortunes in the tech-boom of the eighties - nineties... Lots of 'em ended up broke. There is, or perhaps are, a lot more to handling and controlling money than just having it. I daresay even if, somehow, there were a sudden redistribution of all the money in all the world, equally, to everybody, that the same folks would eventually end up with the lion's share of all the money yet again. There are distinct differences between the haves and the have-nots. And it always interests me that one of the first negative things that is pointed out is the huge divergence of funding between the top of the ladder and the bottom. When that is nobodies fault except the people who don't have any, but want what the rich folk have without the work, strategizing, and dedication that it takes to get and retain it.

No offense intended, but it seems to me that you mighta', shoulda', perhpas thought twice before hitting that old enter button.

But what do I know? I liked Ronald Reagan, and think Dennis Miller is very cool.

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Email Newsletter Special Feature
May 21, 2007
By ATS Member "IgnoranceIsntBlisss"

When people have been indoctrinated like this they're entire lives, it becomes easy to persuade them with speculative propaganda to gain their compliance in this years new conflict. The subjects in this kind of environment are likely to forget each former conflict, just so long as you have it justified in their easily persuaded minds and you keep telling them they're 'free' to make them feel good about themselves. You can even make them feel good about themselves by convincing them that you're going there to 'bring freedom' to The People in the new land, but the truth of the matter depends on your view of 'freedom'.

i originally tried to send this u2u, but it seems im still too new to be trusted (rightfully). So, i shall post it here:

loved your article. your thinking is very similar to my own. we do have a problem going on in the world - us. i just wanted to point out a pet peve of mine which you may want to correct:

Quote: (I f'ed up using the quote function enough for 1 day)

"When people have been indoctrinated like this they're entire lives, it becomes easy to persuade them with speculative propaganda to gain their compliance in this years new conflict."

This is the beginning of a paragraph about 3/4 of the way through. Just some apostrophe edits: "...like this THEIR entire lives..." and "in this YEAR'S new conflict."

It's a well writen and well thought out article. I hate seeing "dummy markers" show up when they clearly aren't appropriate.

cheers

One of the major secrets of capitalism's success in controlling the American people is its ability to convine the people that they have free speech whereas, in reality, they don't. It is OK to speak up in locations such as ATS which, in its own right, is important but it is not "Newsweek", "National Geographic", the "Wall Street Journal" or "Fox News".
These presitigious organisations practice self-censorship to prevent the general public from getting hard evidence of the truth in America. These organisations also have the power and reach to negate any truth which appears in organisations such as ATS by publishing sneering items using names such as dissidents, commie sypathisers, malcontents or misguided.

Another technique is to keep the American people in a world of rising materialism and ease for two reasons. 1. People with full bellies and a constant supply of recreational drugs do not ask hard questions. 2. The threat to "standard of living" can always be trotted out as necessary to quell dissent.

The third technique is to keep on waving the flag and patriotism in everyone's faces, especially children. This brainwashing is formalised in schools and is applied (sometimes not very subtly) in nearly every television series or movie. Take a critical eye to JAG or NCIS for example - blatant propaganda.

The fourth technique is to erode personal values. By promoting human-human competition at all levels, capitalism creates an evironment where people stop seeing each other as fellow members of the community and instills the view that other people are trying to get the better of you and must be be considered enemies instead of neighbours. Mainstream media promotes the view that families and long-term relationships are unnecessary and counter to the culture of self first and only. Drugs are being trivialised to the point where Cops will admit on international TV that they regularly consume recreational drugs. Adultery, spousal desertion, child abandonment, assault, robbery and alcoholism have been integrated as part of the culture to be "managed" not eliminated.

The fifth technique (and this is the most insidious of all) is the culture of the bully. Right from pre-school, the American child is taught that "might is right" and that pack action is OK if you win. Pity the poor child who changes schools - in that period from starting until they can build up a protective pack of their own, they are at the mercy of every gutless piece of crap at school. If they complain they are counselled. This is punishing the innocent. This bullying culture then permeates every strata of US society and dominates its attitude to everything including the rest of the world. A lot has been made of killings in schools in the US but in every case the "perpetrators" have been the victims of long-term bullying and social ostracism. When I hear of a victim striking back, I give a little mental cheer - what now your jeers and degradation?

The sixth technique is to "dumb down" America. Schools keep on lowering literacy and numeracy standards and more and more emphasis is put on giving children "social skills" and "recorded achievements" rather than turn out skilled, enquiring minds who might just start asking questions. TV shows only pap. By keeping Americans looking inward by continuous propaganda as to the superiority of all things american, capitalism ensures that little is learned about the realities of the rest of the world and reinforces the attitude of "fortess america".

The US public might like to think that it is the world's only super power but that is because it is being denied the truth. Already there are weapons in the hands of the US's enemies against which it has no defence. These will only grow in number, capability and dispersal. Like the Roman Empire, the corrupt US empire is doomed to destruction and conquest. I hope to live long enough to see it.

[edit on 21-5-2007 by hippichick]

I swear to you sir. I am in a position that in many years later(20), could be open to doing whatever I want with my money, and I intent to use it to run for president and open the flood gates that is the government to the populace and allow our imperialisim to be directed to ourselves, and fix this nation, then the world.

Yea it kind of goes against your topic, but whats wrong with fighting fire with fire?
Good work.

@ IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Excellent editorial mate. Perfect I might say!

But we need to remember that if it weren't for USA than another country would have taken its place and did the same. The cabal elite will just move to another country when they are done with destroying USA.

It's funny, but I read somewhere that where these cabals went a new Empire rose each time. Babylon, Egypt, Greece, Rome, (...) USA and we'll see who's next.

What can the people do? Well, think of it like this, "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who think they are free." Goethe

99% of the population of Earth, except the cabal elite, are blind to the prison they live in. Only the cabal can see the prison which, well, they created. This prison is made of all the false beliefs in our society which we learn since from a young age. You really can't expect from a 7 years old to say, "No momy I don't believe in your religion!". When your momy tells you that this is true and right, you will act like that for your entire life and never question what your brainwash momy (friend, TV) told you.

As for religion, this is one of the best tools for control I have ever seen. Then comes the media brainwash, which is excellent. They made an art out of brainwashing.

And even better, when you start to question things, to try to understand why things are like this and not different, people, the brainwash mass, will say to you that you are crazy to question such things. The problem is that the fundamental truths we have are wrong and false, brainwashed people never touch them, they think they are 100% true and correct. Like religion for example. They take it as the ultimate truth, but never did a bit of research.

And from my life experience, I saw that the majority of people, about 25 out of 30 like to be TOLD what to do, what to believe in, they want things to be GIVEN to them. Right then I realised how vulnerable we are. They do not want to know how or why, they just want you to give them the result. What happens if tomorrow all the scientists and professionals of this world die, the rest 5 billion people will have no idea how to make a fire. They all buy a lighter, but have no idea how it is made.

The cabals like us to be stupid, well, we are stupid, we could be so much more, but we are kept stupid. Amazing. When you start to see how this world really is, you start see the prison.

nothing is impervious to time...

Originally posted by sigung86
Personally, if American Hegemony it be, than I still think that in many ways it is a damn site better than say, an Al Quiada, Palestinian, Iranian, North Korean, or Israeli Hegemony.

It is not really fair to make such comparisons:

Iran as we know it today is the direct result of 40+ years of American leaders interfering with their national affairs, staging coups against their elected officials, etc.

Israel would never have been established without the direct involvement and support of American leaders, and it certainly would have never survived without American military aid and massive amounts of financial assistance which still continues today.

Al Quiada as well as the Taliban would have probably never existed if not for the "Islamic fundamental movement" of the 1970's - a creation of our very own CIA.

North Korea, Red China, North Vietnam, among others, were basically doomed to communism by American leaders who invited the Soviet Union into our war with Japan - just eight days before the war was ended.

Why would they have condemned these countries to communism?

Because they created communism!

Note that after communism was established in these countries, American leaders, such as Nixon in Red China and his long time associate, George H.W. Bush in Vietnam, gave American technology and jobs away in order to build their economies - at our expense.

- perhaps you may not have noticed that our government has been adopting, implementing and imposing communism / socialism upon us for years. Socialized health care anyone?

But what do I know?

A man by the name of Myron Fagan knew, and he tried to warn Americans about this in the 1960's, listen to his following series of lectures:

Part 1: www.apfn.org...
Part 2: www.apfn.org...
Part 3: www.apfn.org...
Part 4: www.apfn.org...
Part 5: www.apfn.org...
Part 6: www.apfn.org...

The text of these lectures and links to related information can be found here:

www.apfn.org...

i agree, everytime i try to tell my father about this, he just tells me hatefully "i don't want to start a debate" and then ignores me.. sad really, and i also tried to tell a new friend on yahoo messenger about this but he called me a crackpot ( me and my crackpost theories actually) and to this day does not, instant message me..


so soon with this truth, with the preaching of it, will be illegal and be punishable by jail time and or direct death and fear will run rampant to the most highest degree and many (us and more) will be hiding from them for safety out to a place in the woods, forest, etc.. while the ones who stay will be told how evil we are, and how we are going to be taking their rights away and want to kill and slaughter them and rape them, while at the same time those in power will, but in time, few, little by little will run to us and with their child children if they have any and come crying for our help while tears and fear roll down their eyes.

That is all for now..

I liked your article and agree with the military based economy aspect especially. One thing i have to point out that I disagree with is the socializing aspect of our society. It seems that our children and ourselves are becoming more of a cocoon society than ever before. True, the drugs and entertainment aspects as well as the religious fervor keep us pre-occupied. And the corporate slaves are looking forward to their two days of escapism and one week vacation. Between listening to our Ipods and recording The Island for our days off to enjoy, we seem to be tuning out more and more. I say we, for I am also not really a altruistic martyr. I do believe our standard of living has decreased, but compared to what? India? China? Our degree of courtesy and social manners are in the toilet. The upper class treat service workers like #, while talking on the cell phone and acting important.
Our communities are united only when the minorities are involved. The upper classes have walled themselves off into gated communities, while the public roads in these communities are paid by the PUBLIC!
We have to believe in the religion that the government is subsidizing in order to get treatment or social welfare. And as the rats in the cage get more numberous, we have more infighting(crime) But as our rights are being taken away, and the rats get more numerous, we are told to obey the father, and breed more consumers. Those thousands of abortions would of ended up making twice that many people live in poverty- so anti-choice means that the fight for life ends at birth.
I say as a solution- make volunteering mandatory for junior high students. If we are going to soicalize the young, might as well do it at this age to take advantage of the hormonal energy at this age. Besides teens hate everything we tell them to do, might as well give them something to complain about.

Id like to know how you casually equate 'imperialism' with democracy? I see no harm in helping those nations that cannot defend themselves from political tyranny/bullies. I'd like to see you get jumped by 4 people in an alley way and then scream for help only to have the person that can help you , not, on the grounds of some ridiculous political notion...ill gaurantee you'd 'want' that help before sustaining bodily injury, thats exactly the metaphor for what the US does for nations that :

A. cant take care of themselves on any level
B. subject their citizens to brutality without cause (Pol Pot, Idi Amin, etc)
C. Have zero infrastructure in terms of medicine, education, religious freedom, central banking, etc
D. I'm quite sure any one of these nations that fit the above bill would welcome the 'author' of this thread with open arms while immediately systematically oppressing you and taking away all your freedoms and monies.

In summary: If you don't like US policy either become a politician or go to one of your 'ideal' places to set up camp and stay there. Only a damn fool would equate Imperialism with 'constitutional' democracy.

Originally posted by blueyedevil666
Id like to know how you casually equate 'imperialism' with democracy? I see no harm in helping those nations that cannot defend themselves from political tyranny/bullies. I'd like to see you get jumped by 4 people in an alley way and then scream for help only to have the person that can help you , not, on the grounds of some ridiculous political notion...ill gaurantee you'd 'want' that help before sustaining bodily injury, thats exactly the metaphor for what the US does for nations that :

I dont think he equates democracy with imperialism, in fact, based on previous posts by him, id say he realizes that imperialism is the antithesis of democracy.

A. cant take care of themselves on any level
B. subject their citizens to brutality without cause (Pol Pot, Idi Amin, etc)
C. Have zero infrastructure in terms of medicine, education, religious freedom, central banking, etc
D. I'm quite sure any one of these nations that fit the above bill would welcome the 'author' of this thread with open arms while immediately systematically oppressing you and taking away all your freedoms and monies.

As ive pointed out in several threads, many of these "underdeveloped" nations you speak of, are that way because of past imperialistic ventures (be they from france, germany, britian or the US.)

Also, often many of those reactionary regimes recieve support in the form of aid monies and direct military aid from the US. In fact, much of US foreign aid money is earmarked for devloping industrial infasctructure (ie. railroads, roads from port to mill/factory, business subsidies etc.) or comes with strict guidelines such as the money must be used to purchase US made goods, at prices favorable to US manufacturers, and shipped on US ships. Meaning that much of the aid money sent to third world nations goes right back to the US, and rarely helps those that are actually in need of aid.

In summary: If you don't like US policy either become a politician or go to one of your 'ideal' places to set up camp and stay there. Only a damn fool would equate Imperialism with 'constitutional' democracy.

You cannot just simply take office and start a massive overhaul of US foreign policy. It is a policy that has been perfected for the better part of 70 years and is being carried out by people who have a keen sense of their class perogitives.

Wow I wasn't even aware that it was accepted or posted/emailed
I did notice a jump in my points, about 13,000 and was wondering what that was about (I thought these give 20,000 points?). In any case, thanks for your words and your flags everyone.

Originally posted by sigung86
Personally, if American Hegemony it be, than I still think that in many ways it is a damn site better than say, an Al Quiada, Palestinian, Iranian, North Korean, or Israeli Hegemony.

Al Qaeda is the result of U.S. imperial operations.
Palestinian "Hegemony": I didn't know that people being pushed out fo their own homes by tanks and apache helicopters, and hardly trying to defend themselves is known as "Hegemony". please do enlighten me on this one.
Iran/ N. Korea: I wasn't aware of them trying to take over the world. Once again, please do enlighten me.
Isreali Hegemony: Interesting you should add that, as their expansionist policies ar ein fact imperialism. THe catch is the U.S. makes it all possible, and then backs up their move sno matter how wrong or irrational. Because of this, it gives them the green light to do such, and then it's no wonder why people hate both them and US. If they weren't such irrational tyrants, and the U.S. didn't make it possible, perhaps people wouldn't hate either to anywhere near the extremes that they do. That view however, is only visible if you're not a hypocrite (you know, do unto others what you expect in return; if it's wrong when they do it, then it's wrong when we do it; etc).

No, America isn't perfect. No, we aren't always just. And often, we aren't even close to right, but to be so able to denounce a lifestyle, a culture, a country that allows you to even think of putting these types of pronouncements to electronic post, so easily, leads me to believe that there hasn't been a whole lot of thought put into this,

Actually, neuroscience dictates that it's easier to simply parrot the same old tired lines we've all heard our entire lives. Real wordl experiences tell the same story, as these are typically met with 'violent' opposition. It's interesting how neuroscience applies to everyone involved.

what I perceive to be, negative posting with questionable linkage of authoritative reference.

Please do explain, otherwise it sounds an awful lot like complain.

Regarding people controlling wealth....
What would you have them do? Give it all away and distribute it equally?

So then we'll just allow them to use their power and influence to tune the system so that they always stay on top and we always stay on the bottom. Right?

I think there is plenty of proof that a majority of people don't have the capability of handling money. Look, for instance, at all the mega-millions lottery winners, and how many of them end up broke. Look at the people who made fortunes in the tech-boom of the eighties - nineties... Lots of 'em ended up broke.

We're not taught to be responsible. Quite the contrary. We're trained to be self-indulgent, selfish, overcompetitive, jealous, every other degree of dramatic and irrational and so on.

As a society at large we're all poor in comparison to those who are wealthy. Most really are poor. So then a million dollars hits the street, everyones more or less needy and irrational, and now John Doe USA just hit the jackpot. Hmm... I wonder what's going to happen next...

I daresay even if, somehow, there were a sudden redistribution of all the money in all the world, equally, to everybody, that the same folks would eventually end up with the lion's share of all the money yet again.

It sounds as if you're indicating that soemhow these people have a serious advantage over everyone else. Could it be that perhaps being a selfish greedy backstabber gets these people into the power they lust after? Nah!

There are distinct differences between the haves and the have-nots. And it always interests me that one of the first negative things that is pointed out is the huge divergence of funding between the top of the ladder and the bottom. When that is nobodies fault except the people who don't have any, but want what the rich folk have without the work, strategizing, and dedication that it takes to get and retain it.

I recommend you read a good college text book on Sociology. Here is the one I have: LINK

After you study it real good, you wont be making such uneducated stereotypical statements that border on & at least totally parallel racism. People can be taught to do anything, or they can be taught to do nothing. Social change doesn't start with rationalizing the oppression in a society and then blame it on the oppressed. No offense.

Originally posted by Pericle
@ IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Excellent editorial mate. Perfect I might say!

But we need to remember that if it weren't for USA than another country would have taken its place and did the same. The cabal elite will just move to another country when they are done with destroying USA.

Thanks yo.

That's fine, if that's the case, because this time around the people actually have knowledge to understand it all. The knowledge is right at their fingertips, the catch is inspiring them to reach beyond their desired ignorance. People shouldn't treat this access as "for granted", the concept of the rulers actually 'allowing' their subjects access to so much information is unprecidented in all of history, and they're trying to move to end it. It's interesting how rights-threatening-worthy terrorism seemed to almost grow right along the same path as the insurgence of the Internet, isn't it?

99% of the population of Earth, except the cabal elite, are blind to the prison they live in.

The numbers are staggering. I often wonder about how so few have any clue of the factual artificial intelligence programs that I speak of, yet the info is right there on public websites. The reality behind this write-up is another testament, although I don't think too many outside of the US -with access to information- are so dimwitted about this U.S. global domination concept.

Only the cabal can see the prison which, well, they created. This prison is made of all the false beliefs in our society which we learn since from a young age. You really can't expect from a 7 years old to say, "No momy I don't believe in your religion!". When your momy tells you that this is true and right, you will act like that for your entire life and never question what your brainwash momy (friend, TV) told you.

Right. Raise 2 children. Tell one -everyday- that "G-d" exists, and tell the other the exact opposite. Prevent them from seeing or hearing the contrary views, wait 10 years, and then stick them into the room together. Guess what happens next...

The entire Earth is literally a prison now, or will be soon enough thanks to the space based systems being implemented with our hard earned national debt that is nearly $9Trillion. Paying for our own slavery; being debted to achieve our own literal slavery; we're already slaves anyways by definition:
DARPA's iXo Artificial Intelligence Control Grid: 'The Official Version'
America: Land of the Elite, Home of the Slave

And even better, when you start to question things, to try to understand why things are like this and not different, people, the brainwash mass, will say to you that you are crazy to question such things.

Precisely, and now we know what "socialization" is.


[edit on 23-5-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

Originally posted by accountability
One thing i have to point out that I disagree with is the socializing aspect of our society.

All societies, I repeat all societies and even 'lesser' social groups, "socialize" one another. What is being socialized is the norms and customs of the society or group in question.

Considering this fact, the challenge of any would-be "social engineer" who is trying to implement the system in question here is to use mass-scale "operant conditioning" techniques to engineer the society into a state of ignorance. That is, to craft blind patriotism and desired states of ignorance, so that those who attempt to "deviate" are socialized for breaking the established norms.

You can test this yourself. Tomarrow go out and tell the 'story' of this article, to everyone you can think of, in the context that it is totally factual and that you believe it as a matter of fact. Even mention how 20+ million have died directly as a result of US Hegemony. Their reactions, which you will get from most of them, will be to chastize and even attack you, and we're talking about people you actually know.

Or just tell them that you just finished eating a cat or dog, and that it was delicious and so on. And then prepare to be bashed.

You clearly violated a social norm, in this society. What ar ethe odds that you'd dare say those thing again to those who highly react? Some people probably wont talk to you for some time afterwards, maybe never in this social climate. Congradulations, you have just experienced "socialization".


[edit on 23-5-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

Great ideas presented here IgnoranceIsntBliss

The US has a few "helpers" doing what it does in the world, and they too are infected with what you've talked about...Countries like Australia and Britain particularly

Personally, those who've bagged you in this thread haven't produced anything worthy argument-wise to debate what you've posted

Again, nice job and thanks for posting

I'm still unsure as to who is subserviant to who in the UK Empire - US Empire relationship. I haven't taken the time to research it, as first people have to come to understand the most core truth about US. How self-aware can an entity be if it doens't even understand core truths about itself?