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A CIA document dated 10 Feb 1954 [4] describes an experiment on the creation of unsuspecting assassins: “Miss [whited out] was instructed (having expressed a fear of firearms) that she would use every method at her disposal to awaken Miss [whited out] (now in a deep hypnotic sleep). Failing this, she would pick up a pistol and fire it at Miss [whited out]. She was instructed that she would not hesitate to “kill” [whited out]. Miss [whited out] carried out these suggestions including firing the (unloaded) gun at [whited out] and then proceeded to fall into a deep sleep. After proper suggestions were made, both were awakened. Miss [whited out] expressed absolute denial that the foregoing sequence had happened.” BB 36, 37
MKULTRA grew into a mammoth undertaking. The nature of the research included these specific problems: [5]
Can we create by post-H (hypnotic) control an action contrary to an individual’s basic moral principles?
Can we “alter” a person’s personality? Can we guarantee total amnesia under any and all conditions?
Could we seize a subject and in the space of an hour by post-H control have him crash an airplane, etc?
Can we devise a system for making unwilling subjects into willing agents and then transfer that control to untrained agency agents in the field by use of codes or identifying signs? NB 13, 14, 28
iori_komei,
I am not going to give up my freedom to use such technology in the name
Originally posted by iori_komei
I feel I need to mention this.
Hypnotic suggestion cannot make someone do something against there
will, while the majority of people can be hypnotized to some extent,
the idea that you could turn anyone into a coldblooded killer is erroneous,
the only way you could do that is if they had a predisposition to wanting to
kill people in the first place, which in reality would generally encompass
those who have already committed a crime, or are barely able to contain
themselves.
Originally posted by iori_komei
Ask the majority of psychologists.
Or if you are more into edutainment, there is a MythBusters episode that deals with hypnotic suggestion.
Psychologist Margaret Singer describes in her book Cults in our Midst six conditions which she says would create an atmosphere in which thought reform is possible. Singer states that these conditions involve no need for physical coercion or violence.
Clinical Studies
In 1996 The National Institutes of Health technology assessment panel judged hypnosis to be an effective intervention for alleviating pain from cancer and other chronic conditions. A large number of clinical studies also indicate that hypnosis can reduce the acute pain experienced by patients undergoing burn-wound debridement, enduring bone marrow aspirations and childbirth. An analysis published in a recent issue of the International Journal of Clinical and Experimental Hypnosis, for example, found that hypnotic suggestions relieved the pain of 75% of 933 subjects participating in 27 different experiments
Generally people who follow cult leaders are weak-minded as it is, and
Originally posted by Shar
Generally people who follow cult leaders are weak-minded as it is, and
So!!!! You just admitted that it can happen. So the government uses the weak minded. Do you think the government cares who they use to do their dirty work for them? NO!
Originally posted by iori_komei
What I said is that weak-minded people are more willing to believe
something that a person like a cult leader espouses.
Which is not the same ad being able to make people do something against
there will using 'mind control', which is'nt even proven to be possible in
the first place.
Originally posted by iori_komei
Ask the majority of psychologists.
Or if you are more into edutainment, there is a MythBusters episode that
deals with hypnotic suggestion.
The Wikipedia article about the misconception of Hypnotic suggestion
as mind control.
Hypnosis - Common Misconceptions
[edit on 5/1/2007 by iori_komei]
iori_komei,
I believe the majority of science before I believe conspiracy theories.
iori_komei,
And I was not trying to win or lose at anything.
iori_komei,
I actually am going to try and go talk to some professional psychologists