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Originally posted by Zaphod58
My hobby is NOT to kill threads and derail theories. I am attempting to get people to THINK, and to come up with more evidence than "I know it's different because I can see it." but nothing more. I'm sorry that asking someone to come up with more evidence and to think is such an awful thing to do. I didn't realize that making someone PROVE something is so bad to do.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
We've shown that the mission statement always was that it was a military project, there's not much else that we CAN prove about it anymore.
Originally posted by Watchful1
Originally posted by Zaphod58
I'm still looking, but in 1997 it was already being stated that HAARP was a military research project.
A serious review of HAARP is presented. On the surface, HAARP appears to be a nice military "scientific endeavor aimed at studying the properties and behavior of the ionosphere".
www.padrak.com...
Just found statements from 1990 and 1993 that show it was military.
A November 1993 "HAARP Fact Sheet" released to the public by the Office of Naval Research (ONR) stated that the Department of Defense (DoD)-backed project would "enhance present civilian capabilities" in communications and "provide significant scientific advancements."
The public fact sheet describes HAARP as "purely a scientific research facility which represents no threat to potential adversaries and would therefore have no value as a military target." However, while ionospheric experiments at the government's Puerto Rico transmitter site are managed by the civilian National Science Foundation, the Journal has learned that proposals for experiments on HAARP are to be routed through the Pentagon's Office of Naval Research.
www.geocities.com...
So what really changed?
That it was a "purely a scientific research facility which represents no threat to potential adversaries and would therefore have no value as a military target." but the 2007 DARPA TTO Overview on HAARP says
DARPA established an MOA with the Air Force and Navy for this program in November 2002. The HAARP technology is transitioning to the Air Force and Navy in FY 2006.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
And why do you think the military runs experiments like this? They do them to find new military technologies. Do you think the military just says "I think we should do some research that has no potential for us to use, just because we're nice guys." They're not going to spend billions of dollars on experiments that have no potential for military use. They may spend it on experiments that FAIL, but all their experiments have SOME potential military use.
Scientific instruments installed at the HAARP Observatory will be useful for a variety of continuing research efforts which do not involve the use of the IRI but are strictly passive.
DARPA established an MOA with the Air Force and Navy for this program in November 2002. The HAARP technology is transitioning to the Air Force and Navy in FY 2006.
en.wikipedia.org...
Military operations area, an area where United States military activity takes place
Originally posted by Watchful1
Scientific instruments installed at the HAARP Observatory will be useful for a variety of continuing research efforts which do not involve the use of the IRI but are strictly passive.
www.haarp.alaska.edu...
Can HAARP be used for military purposes?
HAARP is not designed to be an operational system for military purposes. The HAARP specifications were developed by a consortium of universities to meet the requirements for a world-class research facility and an expanded group of universities are playing a major role in the design of future research efforts.
The HAARP facility will be used for basic and applied research related to the study of the Earth's ionosphere. Because the DoD operates numerous communication and navigation systems whose signals either depend on reflection from the ionosphere or must pass through the ionosphere to satellites, there is obvious DoD interest in understanding the ionosphere's effect on these systems to improve their reliability and performance.
Originally posted by Watchful1
DARPA TTO Overview on HAARP says...
DARPA established an MOA with the Air Force and Navy for this program in November 2002. The HAARP technology is transitioning to the Air Force and Navy in FY 2006.
What is an MOA you may ask...?
en.wikipedia.org...
Military operations area, an area where United States military activity takes place
Does this not COMPLETLY contradict the 1993 for science use only statement?
The HAARP technology is transitioning to the Air Force and Navy in FY 2006.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
This Urban Legend about what HAARP is got so out of line that Consumer Reports actually sent a team up without resistance to see if it is dangerous in any way. They found nothing and were given complete unfettered access to their satisfaction. I read their conclusions years ago and you might be able to find it in a search.
Originally posted by Watchful1
The HAARP technology is transitioning to the Air Force and Navy in FY 2006.