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Kecksburg UFO

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posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 02:38 AM
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It is currently showing on the History channel, its been said that this was not only the Roswell of the North but it was even better than the Roswell incident.


UFO Files
Kecksburg UFO

Something unusual falls from the sky near 1965 Kecksburg, Pa.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 02:51 AM
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The think I find most compelling about this incident, is the similarity to the anti-grav "bell" the nazis were working on in WW2. Could this be a test of project paperclip? How 'bout the news anchor who reported one thing... suddenly changed his story... and turned up dead... straaaaange things going on here.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 02:58 AM
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Here is a website i just found with some good info on it


On 9th December 1965 hundreds of witnesses in Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania observed a UFO crash. It first appeared to be nothing more than a spectacular meteorite but 30 years on it is still a source of much controversy amongst UFO researchers.

In March 1966, UFO researcher Ivan Sanderson compiled a detailed account from various eyewitnesses, and soon realized that there was more to this story than that of a simple meteorite.

His findings indicated that the object showed a clear trajectory, moving from north-west to south-east. Its total visible journey lasted no more than 6 minutes, which indicated a speed far too slow for a meteor. Sanderson calculated a speed of only around 1,000 mph.

Not all the eyewitnesses were located on the ground at the time of the sighting, there were also several pilots who spoke of being buffeted by shock waves as the large bright object sped by. This was strange as most meteorites are observed several thousands of feet above most commercial aircraft. There were also claims of shock waves and sonic booms reported from witnesses on the ground.

The vapour trail left by the object were so intense that they lasted for more than 20 minutes in which time they were filmed by several people.

Several bits of silvery debris were found on the ground at Lapeer, Michigan and these were assumed to be from the object. Later analysis of this material indicated that they were indeed chaff which are pieces of aluminium foil released by aircraft to fool radar.

However the most convincing aspect that Sanderson discovered to rule out the possibility of a meteorite was that the object appeared to change direction and head in an easterly direction.

The object finally came to rest in a wooded area in the town of Kecksburg. The object was initially witnessed by 2 children who reported that a "start that had caught fire had crashed in the woods". Their mother who's first thought was that her children had witnessed a plane crash called the state police and the fire service.

As soon as she had finished phoning she went out into the woods and to her surprise found that a military unit had beaten them to the crash site. This unit took command and told all civilians, police and fire department officials to leave the site immediately.

The military unit reported to the police that they had found nothing, and they left. This remained the case for around 15 years when some UFO researchers 're-opened' the case.

After some investigation they found out that the fire service had come within 200ft of the object before being turned away by the military. They reported seeing blue flashing lights, and noticing that the tops of several of the trees nearby were broken as if an object had come crashing through.

The investigators also reported that they had found witnesses who had seen a large flat-bed truck leaving the area of the woods with a large oval object covered with sheets. Another witness indicated that he observed the military loading the object onto truck. He described the object as looking like a large acorn, with 'bumpers' on the base. He also noticed that there was strange hieroglyphics on the craft surface.

The case was reported in the Project Blue Book files and indicated that "a three man team has been dispatched to investigate and pick up an object that started a fire". This three man team is now known to of been part of the then highly classified "Project Moon Dust."

The official report was that the UFO was simply a meteorite.

In 1990 a new witness came forward who claimed to be part of the military team that was sent in to retrieve the object. He claims that he was given orders to 'shoot anyone who got too close'. He also revealed that the object was being transported to the Wright Patterson base.

The last major discovery related to a worker at Wright Patterson who claims that a strange object was shipped in on the 16th December the same year, just days after the events at Keckburg. He described the object almost identically as the other witnesses had described. Whilst he was observing the object a guard escorted him out of the hanger and told him "that you have just seen an object that will be common knowledge in 20 years time."


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posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 08:09 AM
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It's interesting to say the least.

One thing I thought interesting was one person said he heard this ungodly scream it scared him really bad and he got out of there as fast as he could. People stated that men in white suits with a NASA emblem on it carried a large white container into the woods. Knowing that many species can not survive on Earth because there is to much oxygen in our air I believe that our government knows this also and they were there to collect the being.

You all must realize that NORAD monitor's everything, they know where everything is and where everything is going and can give you time and location near perfectly.

I just chuckle when they do things like stop the return of the shuttle because of mystery objects "lol" then tell you bolts and baggies and people believe this. They knew exactly what they were doing.

One family said the military was in there house and used there phones, didn't they keep phone records back then, I wonder where those calls went to.

Thre Kecksburg Incident is interesting to say the least.

The object doesn't look like any ship type that the Grey's have that I know of, so I would think this was dealing with another specie type.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by Kr0n0s
It is currently showing on the History channel, its been said that this was not only the Roswell of the North but it was even better than the Roswell incident.


That demonstrates the general level of sophistication among television producers when it comes to the subject of UFOs. Everything has to be the "________________ Roswell," as if nobody would watch it if it wasn't associated with the Roswell mythology in some way. I'm tired of it.

Roswell has come to dominate UFO TV in the same way Star Trek dominates science fiction and Second City/SNL dominates comedy. It makes it all sadly homogenous.

---- You never see a good show done on the Hopkinsville "demon" attack. Now, that's an interesting case, although I guess TV producers think a bunch of hillbillies fighting off an attack by Little Green Men is too goofy to capture the interest of the general public.

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posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 02:58 PM
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Roswell was our first "UFO" incident that involved a crash, bodies, the military and finally a cover up, others just use that incident as a gauge to be used to measure other events.
There is nothing wrong with that, it happens all the time.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by Kr0n0s
Roswell was our first "UFO" incident that involved a crash, bodies, the military and finally a cover up, others just use that incident as a gauge to be used to measure other events.
There is nothing wrong with that, it happens all the time.


Yeah, but Kecksburg barely qualifies. Kecksburg was much more of a "Moon Dust" operation. Aside from the military activity, there's not much of a connection. Nobody saw any aliens. Nobody sent out a press release about capturing a flying saucer.

It all just sounds like a quick retrieval of a crashed Russian satellite. No need to "Roswell it" up.


niv

posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by SuicideVirusIt all just sounds like a quick retrieval of a crashed Russian satellite. No need to "Roswell it" up.


That's the problem I have with Keckburg. Although the Soviet satellite was thought to have landed far from Keckburg, it's just too much of a coincidence. The fact that the satellite fell that evening, the physical description of the object and the reaction of the military all fit the satellite theory.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 03:56 PM
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Could it have been a Soviet Soyuz re-entry capsule? The description of the acorn-like craft with hieroglyphics sounds pretty familar. Here's a link:

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 05:45 PM
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Sorry they already checked that out and the Russian object was much earlier in time.

Kecksburg is extremely interesting. The government was tracking this and NASA was there. This acorn didn't just come down it made turns and slowed itself down.

I wouldn't be so fast to knock this one.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by SuicideVirus

Originally posted by Kr0n0s
Roswell was our first "UFO" incident that involved a crash, bodies, the military and finally a cover up, others just use that incident as a gauge to be used to measure other events.
There is nothing wrong with that, it happens all the time.


Yeah, but Kecksburg barely qualifies. Kecksburg was much more of a "Moon Dust" operation. Aside from the military activity, there's not much of a connection. Nobody saw any aliens. Nobody sent out a press release about capturing a flying saucer.

It all just sounds like a quick retrieval of a crashed Russian satellite. No need to "Roswell it" up.


Dude if you read the stories you can find on google it isnt me thats "Roswelling" anything, Im telling you what THEY are saying, so get over it.


The official explanation of the widely-seen fireball was a mid-sized meteor, however, speculation as to what the Kecksburg object had been (if there was one — reports vary) also range from it being an alien craft to the remains of an unmanned Soviet Venera 4 atmospheric probe, also known as Kosmos-96, originally destined for Venus. (However, see below where this was recently ruled out by NASA's chief in charge of tracking orbital debris.)

Similarities have been drawn between Kecksburg and the Roswell UFO incident, and as such, is known as "Pennsylvania's Roswell".


Source-Wikipedia

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posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 05:55 PM
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Maybe what ever brought the satelite down, also downed the other ufo? Just a thought.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by Griff
Maybe what ever brought the satelite down, also downed the other ufo? Just a thought.


Could be because there are stories that are now coming out about the old Russia having their missiles "shotdown" or having the warhead taken out by passing UFO's.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 06:05 PM
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Was just thinking that maybe the soviets attacked the ufo in defense of their satelite. I'm just bored and comming up with speculation after speculation. I grew up not far from Kecksburg. I never heard any stories growing up though. I learned about it years later when I got interested in ufos.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Kr0n0s
Dude if you read the stories you can find on google it isnt me thats "Roswelling" anything, Im telling you what THEY are saying, so get over it.


Take it easy, take it easy. Nobody's accusing you of Roswelling anything. I know it's "they" who are doing the Roswelling.

Heh heh. "Roswelling."




posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 07:01 PM
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Just a bit of odd info for those of you out there, in Empire Michigan is a NORAD radar station, if you look on Google earth and look at Empire, MI and Lapeer, MI ( there is another Air force base south of Lapeer, I just can't recall the name) it lines up quite nicely with Kecksburg, PA. So it IS plausible that the military knew about this objects trajectory even before the Civilians spotted it.

( my buddy was in the Air force and stationed at Empire as a NORAD RADAR tech, his job was to track ANYTHING with a north - south trajectory with a grease pencil on a film that was over the RADAR scope so there should be a record of this event, maybe an FOIA is in order? )

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posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 08:47 PM
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I find it odd that Ive yet to see any History Channel (UFO Files) special or any other kind of special, regarding this UFO incident.
Its odd because there have been TONS of UFO type shows all over the History Channel for the past couple of months.



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