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Communists Say Global Warming Not Manmade

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posted on Apr, 18 2007 @ 10:38 PM
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Communists Say Global Warming Not Manmade


www.nytimes.com

...China’s deputy ambassador, Liu Zhenmin, was blunt in rejecting the session. ...

"...the Security Council has neither the professional competence in handling climate change, nor is it the right decision-making place for extensive participation leading up to widely acceptable proposals," he said.

Russia, China, Qatar, Indonesia and South Africa, among others, also said the Security Council was not the place to take concrete action...
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Apr, 18 2007 @ 10:38 PM
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The Communists and the USA are teaming up to kill any UN agreement
on climate change.

Economics makes even stranger bedfellows than politics.

IMO.




www.nytimes.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Apr, 18 2007 @ 11:23 PM
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I have to say the thread title is incredibly misleading, as it suggest
a majority of communists, of all kinds rejects AICC.

That, and PRChina is not a Communist nation, it is a Stallinist/Maoist
nation with capitalistic trends.

Honestly I don't think the U.N. will ever be able to force it's more powerful
members (that disagree on the matter) to do anything they don't want to.


However, excluding PRChina, those countries that disagree on a
government level now, such as the U.S. will over time, and can even
be seen now, be forced to change as the majority of people support
the changes.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by iori_komei

... PRChina is not a Communist nation, it is a Stallinist/Maoist
nation with capitalistic trends.





I was deferring to the popular perception here at ATS, ie.:


The communist party in China

...dictatorial communist countries like Cuba and China are allowed to partake in Masonry.

Communist China is doomed!

...and defeat Communist China, their Russian allies, and Iran, and win this new Cold War.

China is a communist country

You support Communist China, by shopping at Walmart.



And elsewhere:


Japan Today

The most frightening thing of all is that the Project for a New American Century group, which has made an internal coup in the Bush administration, ultimately has its sights on China. They want to surround, besiege and break up Communist China, as they imagine the US did to the Soviet Union.

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Q: What's the difference between China and Iraq?
A: Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Ba'ath party, while China is Communist.

***

...the USA now incarcerates more people per capita than Communist China.





FYI - I find most news coverage misleading and often, amusing.




posted on Apr, 20 2007 @ 09:07 AM
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... particularly amusing, as I commented above:

Economics makes even stranger bedfellows than politics.

Of course, it can be argued that politics and economics are synonymous, and preclude considerations of human rights, civil rights, and the like.





posted on Apr, 20 2007 @ 07:05 PM
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Britain and China faced off on Tuesday in the first United Nations Security Council debate on climate change, with Britain pushing the issue and China saying the 15-member body had no competence to deal with it.

“Our responsibility in this Council is to maintain international peace and security, including the prevention of conflict,” said Ms. Beckett, whose country holds the current Council presidency. “An unstable climate will exacerbate some of the core drivers of conflict, such as migratory pressures and competition for resources.”

She noted that President Yoweri Museveni of Uganda, whose economy depends on hydropower from a reservoir depleted by drought, had called climate change “an act of aggression by the rich against the poor.”




Not that Communist China is a poor country...

Hmmm.



posted on May, 6 2007 @ 09:17 AM
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The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change released a third report on Friday. The new report outlines affordable solutions to dealing with climate change.

...And our International Corporate Government-in-waiting responded by opening a site called ClimateChangeCorp.com. Check it out for all the latest corporate spin.




U.S. needs vision, will to act on global warming

In two landmark reports this year on climate change, an international panel of scientists established that global warming is potentially catastrophic, and that actions by humans are the culprit. That begged the question, "So what do we do about it?"

On Friday, in a third consensus report supported by more than 120 nations, those scientists gave us an answer - several, actually.

The good news is that reducing greenhouse gas emissions, the chief means of slowing global warming, won't send the world economy into a tailspin. But that news comes with this dose of reality: doing nothing probably will.

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The warming challenge: what we can do now

The report on global warming released on Friday from the world's most authoritative voice on climate change asserts that significant progress toward stabilizing and reducing global warming emissions can be achieved at a relatively low cost using known technologies.

This is a hugely important message to policymakers everywhere, not least those in the U.S. Congress. Many of them have been paralyzed by fears - assiduously cultivated by the Bush administration - that a full-scale attack on climate change could cripple the economy.

The report was the third this year from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. The first report, in February, blamed humans for rising atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. A second report last month warned of famine, floods and other ecological disasters unless emissions were brought under control.

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Nations have means to tackle global warming

Nations have the money and the technology to save the world from the worst ravages of global warming, but they must start acting immediately to succeed, experts agreed on Friday. After five days of intense negotiations, the experts from 120 nations endorsed a report laying out proposals to fight climate change which they said were cheap and easy enough for political leaders to act on right away.

“If we continue to do what we are doing now, we are in deep trouble,” said Ogunlade Davidson, co-chair of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which produced the report. “This report is all about solutions to climate change,” Davidson said, emphasising that the way forward was about doing things differently rather than sacrifice.

Renewable energies, such as wind, solar and biofuel, were highlighted as an important part of the mix, while the experts said putting a price on using the fossil fuels that produce greenhouse gases was important. Environmental groups hailed the report as a victory for science over politics -- after fierce debate among the delegates this week -- and said the onus was now on governments to act without delay.

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Solutions offered for global warming

Here's the state of global warming to date: Scientists generally agree the Earth is warming, that humans are driving this change, that the impact will have fundamental and far-reaching consequences to the environment, and that the tab for all this, while significant for all countries, will hit hardest those least able to afford it.

On Friday, scientists and delegates from 120 countries offered solutions. These cover a broad spectrum, from turning up a home's thermostat to redesigning power plants to charging industry $100 per ton of carbon sent up a smokestack. Delegates said an affordable arsenal of "anti-warming" measures are available and must be quickly applied to avert a disastrous increase in global temperatures.

One constant, however, has not changed: The White House's continued stance as the global holdout, fretting that preventive measures are too costly.




posted on May, 6 2007 @ 09:47 AM
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It's no suprise the Chinese would say something like this. This kind of ties in to why Australia won't ratify the Kyoto protocol (along with John Howard getting a shiny deputys badge off of GW) Australia's main export at the moment would most likely be coal (but we're really pushing uranium at the moment, fancy some yellowcake?) and a lot of that is going to China. The ports are straining to get the ships in. China's energy consumption increased by 25% in 2005 and it doesn't look like slowing down or really cleaning up, and Australian industry is pretty fine with that, it seems. The *%^&ers

On a side note, an Australian/Chinese professor, who worked on efficency improvements to solar cell technology, is now making Billions in China producing standard, old style solar cells. He tried to start a joint venture with the university in Sydney he did the research at, using these new methods, but they turned him down and denied him access to the technology. Go figure, I guess those few years when our science minister also sat on the boards of some of the countries biggest mining companies might not have been a good thing. Strange bedfellows, indeed.



posted on May, 6 2007 @ 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by fingapointa

...I guess those few years when our science minister also sat on the boards of some of the countries biggest mining companies might not have been a good thing. Strange bedfellows, indeed.







It's the corporate connection. Same in "Communist" China and the good ol' USA.

Who rules the world?

Do they rule it for "democracy"? Or the "economy," and the nearly-established global economic corporate empire?





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