Proposed ATS paranormal project. Create a Thoughtform

Maybe we should define what it should look like first, and maybe create its sigil, since you said something about pills, it could be a doctor, a nurse, an old chinese wise misterious looking mistycal vendor guy, or maybe just a jar or maybe a pez or those machines with bubblegum... Just to define it better before doing the artwork... And I still say a short story about it would be nice :3

I would be a candidate to sketch it, but I will be without scanner and photoshop for quite sometime now, so no can do XP

Maybe we should define what it should look like first, and maybe create its sigil, since you said something about pills, it could be a doctor, a nurse, an old chinese wise misterious looking mistycal vendor guy, or maybe just a jar or maybe a pez or those machines with bubblegum... Just to define it better before doing the artwork... And I still say a short story about it would be nice :3

I would be a candidate to sketch it, but I will be without scanner and photoshop for quite sometime now, so no can do XP

Well we can make it a man or a woman wearing a lab coat and holding a jar with vitamin pills, omega-3 pills, and "neu-becalm'd" pills.


neu-becalm'd is a product which apparently helps in concentration and focus.

Originally posted by TheBandit795

neu-becalm'd is a product which apparently helps in concentration and focus.

Now see this is exactly why I love this site something new all the time. Thanks Bandit, now I will have to spend the next day researching this product and the ingredients. Herbs and natural remedies are a passion of mine.

Bandit do you know anyone that is taking this product and if so, is it working well for them?

Thanks for the info.

Won't that link our thoughtform to the product?

I wonder if it will boost the sales and effects of it XD

But I think nameless, generic pills would be better because it wouldn't carry no intent and opinion, good or bad, that may come from known products, either that or a pill with an original name.

Originally posted by Realtruth
Bandit do you know anyone that is taking this product and if so, is it working well for them?

Thanks for the info.

I will be in some days.. I ordered it last week.

[edit on 23-4-2007 by TheBandit795]

Originally posted by Raziel89
Won't that link our thoughtform to the product?

I wonder if it will boost the sales and effects of it XD

But I think nameless, generic pills would be better because it wouldn't carry no intent and opinion, good or bad, that may come from known products, either that or a pill with an original name.

That doesn't matter IMHO. In fact, I think the pill will help it because there are people all over the net raving that it increases concentration. I found out about it last week, and was checking information on it for the past week.

Hi All,

Well, I was doing some more reading on thought forms, and how to manifest them and I found something that might help others not familiar with the technique of creating one. I found an online google book called The Human Aura: Astral Colors and Thought Forms By Panchadasi. It has what I think is a very good explination and description of what a thought form is, and how one is created.

You can check it out HERE . I am going to read the entire book, as it also has some more interesting insights on the aura that I have not encountered before. I did find some other info on creating thought forms, but most of them were either filled what I thought was biased "doma" type information, or they were a self promoting website offering slight info with the promise of more if you "buy X book" .

(LOL) Of course I dont mind having to buy something that is worth buying, but finding out what is "worth" buying is often the trick isint it?! Anyway, I will post more info as I find it. From what I understand so far, the key for all of us is to make sure no negative energy gets incorparated into our thought form. I have read that meditation helps with this, but for those of us who can not meditate too well, or can not meditate at all, it may prove difficult to keep the energy "pure" so to speak.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can help everyone keep our thought form "pure" so that it can work for us the way we want it to? I know the image will help, but since visual perception is relative, it may not insipre everyone in the same way.

Know I feel like I am rambling a bit, so I am off to read up some more and to see if I find out any more info that can help us.

Originally posted by TheBandit795

Originally posted by SteveRSpiritual energy can die? That's a new one.

What I meant is that they just withered away and dissapeared because I didn't pay any attention to them anymore. Anytime you pay attention to a thoughtform, you're feeding it.

You could "program" it to sustain itself.

The robotics law has little to nothing to do when creating an eggregore. The only time when it can become "corrupt" is when people placed different intentions and characteristics in it that will cause conflicts.

I'm not gonna participate. Done it in the past on various occult fora. I'll just stick with my personal servitore

Hi All,

Just a quick update to mention one thing and ask about another. I just went back to finish reading "The Human Aura" book and found out that the entire book is avail for download. The book was written in 1916, and its copyrigt has since expired. (of course there are still "terms of use" conditions that are listed)

The other thing I was wondering about was if a mandala would help us with focusing our energy more effectively. They are beautiful images that many people use as a meditation aid. Here are a few examples:




I like this image because of the yin/yang symble focused in the center of the image. That could represent our thought form if we incorporated the words "concentration & focus" at the center. Or we could incorporate the pill bottle that Bandit was talking about.


Here are more great images I found.






Here is the last image where I included the word focus:



The last image is made avail to everyone from the original site, which is a spirituality based site that I just discovered. (I havent fully explored it yet) They encourage the reader to use the listed mandalas a meditation tools.
I was also thinking that wordless music could help with meditation and focus of ones energy. I usually use music for my "escape adventures"

At the moment I'm waiting for a sketch by an ATS member. I've already asked him to make one.

Haha, oh you're waiting for me to just draw something? Well, I was waiting for you guys to compile me a list of features you want this "thoughtform" to look like...well what would it be?

Okay I look at what you guys suggested...

A doctor with a pez dispenser that pops out omega-3 and neu-becalm'd pills? w/ a tattoo of a mandala or a ying-yang sign? what? j/k but really, make me a list

so so far:
-male/female (in a labcoat)
-holding a jar of vitamins, omega-3, and neu-becalm'd
-has a spiritual symbol on him/her

also how would I just drawing a jar, with just labels of the vitamins, because well drawing pills would be easy...distinguishing them from viagra and other products...not so easy.

tell me guys, i'll have it done by friday night!!

[edit on 25-4-2007 by skyblueff0]

I would recommend not making it so complex. It should be easily envisioned in the mind to work best, I think. If people are able to recall it from memory and think about it throughout the day in whatever spare time they have/when doing monotonous tasks like washing dishes, it will be more effective.

After having taken the time to read it is obvious that most, if not all, never created a servitor. Let alone create an egregore such as you're attempting here.

Some links that might help you guys at creating your first entity:

www.chaosmatrix.org...
www.servantsofthelight.org...
www.philhine.org.uk...
www.spiralnature.com...
www.philhine.org.uk...
chaoscurrent.com...
Someone explains in detail how he makes his servitor

[edit on 26-4-2007 by Enyalius]

Enyalius has posted some real good links there guys, I've read a lot of them already and they give good information on creating thoughtforms.

I'll definately try to help out once we get a picture or a photo. I haven't meditated in a while, or even tried to do anything recently, since I tend to enjoy my time off, but I can definately devote 15 minutes to this a day. Heck, maybe it'll even get me back into other stuff.

And I'm not to up-to on thoughtforms, but wouldn't it be possible to create a 'guardian' for when you project?

Originally posted by Hunt3r
And I'm not to up-to on thoughtforms, but wouldn't it be possible to create a 'guardian' for when you project?

A guardian is also a thoughtform. Depending on the task you give to the thoughtform it will either take up the job of guardian or something else you decided upon. Do not mistake a task/job with a thoughtform/deity...they are not connected untill you make that connection.

I've created servitors in the shape of gigantic dragons that roamed around my house getting rid of anything that got near it. Either by setting up a portal for the dead to pass through to where they belong or doing something more nasty if it wasn't a mere ghost. That is sort of a guardian. Or how about a gigantic wolf that stands over the house of my niece to protect her? Surely that is a guardian as well.

Next to that I've also got an egregore up and running on my personal Astral area. I had some intruders in the past and now the egregore (guardian) is there to make sure no one gets in without my permission. I decided to create my own instead of getting a regular guardian. After all it is my personal space to get some time for myself and do some experiments from time to time. This one is capable of feeding itself, but has no required intelligence to develop itself further.

Creating an egregore takes more time and dedication then a merely 15minutes a day of simple meditation. That is unless you intend to make a very weak one that dissapears in no time.

You need to make it as "complex" as possible. Even though some stated in here to not do it since it wouldn't be easy to remember and get into and blablabla. Unless you want a free thoughtform with no restrictions that does anything, even that which you do not want it to do, then be my guest to follow the course you're on. If not set as much in stone as possible and spend time to work out the kinks and get rid of possible holes and contradictions.

1. Do research and write down the characteristics you want it to have, the tasks it needs to do. Get some possible moral values and ethics if you want. Get rid of any contradictions. If you got contradictions two things can happen. Either the egregore does nothing or it finds a solutions on its own for the contradictions and you won't always be happy with the solution it uses.

2. Think if you want to feed it yourself constantly when it runs low or give it a means to feed itself.

3. Get the shape set into stone. Surely you want it to look like something.

4. Give it a name that embodies all it is. By this name you will have all the ssociations needed to "invision". Like when having met an individual you know their names and it is associated automatically in the mind with the personality traits that individual has. No complex thinking or contemplating is needed since it is done automatically.

When all the preperation are done, which usually takes at least 3-4 weeks, then you can go on and create it. Depending on how strong, competent and lasting you want it'll take from 1 month to as long as you want it to be.

So don't expect an easy way to do it. Disregard anyone who claims it is.

[edit on 27-4-2007 by Enyalius]

uhh...so what do people expect me to make it look like?

all i'm getting is make a thoughtform, but don't make it complex...stick figures?

then i get make a thoughtform, but make it complex....uh...abstract art anyone?

serious people, you guys are giving me the worst discription of this thoughtform, someone suggested...a thoughtform that carries a pez despenser...not really what i thought of as a entity that promotes focus and concetration.

everyone can have suggestion, but by 9pm tonight i'm drawing it, and drawing it on these discription:
-->human?
-->wears a labcoat/spiritual ornament
-->carrys a jar of vitamin

well you guys have til 9pm, est...

Just posting something to give you some idea's.
Here's a beautiful African art carving inspired by Rodin's classic sculpture "The Thinker" which is located at the Musee de Rodin in Paris.




Photo of this carving and others located at this site:
www.africarving.com...

[edit on 27-4-2007 by Palasheea]

Since we're dealing with concentration and focus, maybe something like a bullseye could be incorporated into it. I can't think of many other symbols of focus at the moment.

Going with the guy in a lab coat, you could put the snakes-interwined medical symbol into there too.

Maybe a prism, which focuses light to a single point. Or a magnifying glass.

Here is the sign for "focus" on a camera