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China Space Test Caused Increase in Space Debris

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posted on Apr, 10 2007 @ 07:41 PM
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China Space Test Caused Increase in Space Debris


www.washtimes.com

China's test of an anti-satellite weapon increased the number of space-debris pieces threatening U.S. and other nations' satellites by more than 9 percent, a senior Air Force Space Command official said.
Brig. Gen. C. Donald Alston, the command's director of space operations, told The Washington Times that the Jan. 11 test also triggered a comprehensive review of space-monitoring efforts within the military's primary space defense command.
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Apr, 10 2007 @ 07:41 PM
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It isnt bad enough we junk up the planet now we have to junk up space too. An increase of over 9% in space junk from just one test, China should be slapped with a huge fine for this.

www.washtimes.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Apr, 10 2007 @ 07:57 PM
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Sorry but the US is in bad shape to talk, they are responsable for more than the half of space debris. And their 9%, they can put it where it belongs.



posted on Apr, 10 2007 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo
Sorry but the US is in bad shape to talk, they are responsable for more than the half of space debris. And their 9%, they can put it where it belongs.


Sure I knew that was coming, the US should be slapped also but just because we did somthing wrong does that give everyone else a free ticket to do the same wrong?



posted on Apr, 10 2007 @ 08:19 PM
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This has been covered before, don't know where the threads are though.

However the majority of space junk in orbit is originally from both the
United States, however there was'nt always as much, over time things
collide and break apart into smaller pieces, PRChina's test added very
little to it, as the satelite would have collided with something naturally
as it is, assuming it did'nt burn up in the atmosphere before than.



posted on Apr, 10 2007 @ 08:57 PM
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I guess this is futher information on the subject lori, the date on the article is today and they are saying that at least 1,000 pieces of new debris have been counted from that single test. thats quite an increase overall. anyway I thought it was worthy of a post


apc

posted on Apr, 10 2007 @ 09:06 PM
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So they created in 1 day 9% of the amount the US and Soviets managed to put up in 50 years?

Nuke 'em!



posted on Apr, 10 2007 @ 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by apc
So they created in 1 day 9% of the amount the US and Soviets managed to put up in 50 years?

Nuke 'em!


That's the whole friggin point, what a collossal mess they made with one lousy shot, a couple more shots like that and tracking will become more of a nightmare than ever. I'm not suggesting that the US is innocent by anymeans but you know the ole saying: "two wrongs dont make a right"


[edit on 10-4-2007 by the_sentinal]



posted on Apr, 10 2007 @ 09:22 PM
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The big fuss is that China blew up a satellite which made well over 2000 pieces of debris. The US does have debris, but most of that are complete satellites. Unfortunately, China didn't break any laws by taking out one of their own satellites.



posted on Apr, 10 2007 @ 10:49 PM
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We are definitely setting ourselves up for bad times in the future with all of this space junk. When we finally start exploring more of the universe we are going to start running into this crap out there. Out of sight out of mind I guess!



posted on Apr, 10 2007 @ 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by iori_komei
This has been covered before, don't know where the threads are though.



Here's the thread that was started when this news first broke.

Chinese Space Debris Problem

Back when other countries where creating "space debris", including the US and USSR, the consequents were not known the way they are now.

Knowing this, now in this day and age, China still did it!



posted on Apr, 10 2007 @ 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by Keyhole


Back when other countries where creating "space debris", including the US and USSR, the consequents were not known the way they are now.

Knowing this, now in this day and age, China still did it!


they did it on purpose is what centurian said on his thread( thanks for the link) and I also believe they did it on purpose. the question is what will the U.S. do about it..........probably nothing they just forgave North Korea of counterfeiting millions in US 100.00 dollar bills this administration cant seem to make a stand on any issue.


[edit on 10-4-2007 by the_sentinal]



posted on Apr, 11 2007 @ 12:00 AM
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It's called saber rattling.

Just think of the employment opportunities if current economic trends continue. Perhaps in a little while, North Americans can get underpaid work in Dante's drydocks, the Alang shipyards of space, cleaning up after the super-power's mess.

Or just scavenging the pieces that fall to the ground.



posted on Apr, 11 2007 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by clearwater



It's called saber rattling.




I disagree saber rattling carries no threat, this act by the Chinese causes an increased threat to our satellites, therefore it is more than mere saber rattling IMO.



posted on Apr, 11 2007 @ 12:48 AM
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Yes it does cause a threat to commercal space traffic. But can you deny that doesn't hurt the prophecy that China will defeat the US without having to fire a shot? It was just a test after all.



posted on Apr, 11 2007 @ 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by Ahabstar
Yes it does cause a threat to commercal space traffic. But can you deny that doesn't hurt the prophecy that China will defeat the US without having to fire a shot? It was just a test after all.


Prophecy? what prophecy...have not heard that before and would be interested in reading that if you could post a link or explain...anyway the Chinese could beat us totally through economics right now if they wanted to and that wouldn't require a shot ethier.



posted on Apr, 11 2007 @ 05:47 AM
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Prophecy??! Are you inferring that China has a prophecy about the ultimate destruction of the United States??! If this is correct please provide me with more information about this doomsday prophecy. I had no idea that China's ultimate goal is to DESTROY the United States. Please cite your links and or references to this horrible scenario and as always....thanks for sharing!


apc

posted on Apr, 11 2007 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by PrepareForTheWorst
We are definitely setting ourselves up for bad times in the future with all of this space junk. When we finally start exploring more of the universe we are going to start running into this crap out there. Out of sight out of mind I guess!


It will actually force us to develop technologies we will need anyway: shielding.

If we're going at high velocity through the system and smack a single tiny pebble, the ship can be destroyed. We need some way to clear debris from the path. All this space junk just forces the issue.



posted on Apr, 11 2007 @ 08:50 AM
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Apc makes a good point, better shielding development should be an issue as well, not only for the satellites but for ships as well if any real space traveling is to be done in the future. That is unless we have already developed or are int the process of developing demesnional transport or some sort of wormhole passge then all of this bickering between the US and China would simply be for show, but thats an entirely different topic.

While these actions by China are very irresponsible and full of risk, lets not forget how much of that Space Junk is atrributed to the United States. Regardless of how long it took to get it up there. So instead of

China, we should maybe focus on a more efficiant space waste management system.



posted on Apr, 11 2007 @ 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by kleverone
Apc makes a good point, better shielding development should be an issue as well, not only for the satellites but for ships as well if any real space traveling is to be done in the future. . .


Unless this can be done with a "force field" like in the movies, it's gonna come down to a huge weight issue, and getting more weight into space costs more $$$, which is a no no. . .

Can you imagine what you would need to construct shielding to stop a 17,000mph projectile?

At least we don't have to worry about what was left of Gene Roddenberry striking anything anymore.


2PacSade-


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[edit on 11-4-2007 by 2PacSade]




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